That applies to pretty much any political ideology. They all disrespect their perceived enemies. Some are just not as hypocritical about it.
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The far right is losing its ability to speak freely online. Should the left defend it?
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Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
The only enemy of the white nationalist is himself. He cannot grow intellectually or humanely enough to understand others past his self-centered belief that he alone is the product of greatness in a world of amazing diversity.
I don't see what that has to do with what I said. I'm not defending white nationalist viewpoints. I despise most of them. I despise racial identity politics for the most part, anyway. I do people should allow to express them, though.
Domains are like corporations and they have full right to control, without reservation, all content. Whether they don't want hate speech on their server or they don't want porn or whatever, it is up to them. Some places may want to avoid being targets for federal investigations and such and i don't blame them. We already have hate crime in the US and some hate speech treads that line because they could be organizing something more. I would also bet that companies like cloudflare have investors to answer to and need distancing like many of the business men and politicians distancing themselves from Trump because of his most recent hate rhetoric.
I don't think it's a 1st Amendment issue, but it's definitely a cultural problem with free speech.
I don't know why you say such a thing, but I sure don't condone what you are saying.
Perhaps you are the exception?
Gosh, that is quite the nihilistic thought.
I would certainly hope´ the far right to be on its death throes and to feel the full impact of growing rejection on its way out of existence.
So you are not the exception.
Hopefully I am not!
People certainly should be able to express what they want but if nobody wants to buy tickets to their show or can't find a venue to host them, that's their problem.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Personally, I have no difficulty with hate speech, per se, and think groups like StormFront should be allowed to promote their brand of idiocy as they please -- as long as they are not inciting or calling for violence -- against ANY identifiable group. That said, I also believe in the right of the Internet Service Provider to refuse the business of anyone or any group they do not wish to directly enable. So, IF, and that is a big IF, they can find an ISP to carry them they can fill their boots.
Wirey
Fartist
When your written manifesto encourages the murder of women and children as a political aim, I think it's safe to ban you.
For that matter, they have the right to form their own ISP and promote whatever they want.
They do NOT have the right to force others to promote their message.
Has any government stepped in to deny them the ability to state their case? No.
What has happened is that certain companies have refused to do business with them by providing an outlet for them. That is perfectly legal..
For example, a leftist cannot *force* a newspaper to carry an editorial from the leftist perspective. They cannot *force* a company to provide goods and services so they can promote their viewpoint. They *can* attempt to form a company of their own to promote their viewpoint. If others choose to ignore them, that is NOT a restriction of their free speech.
An article arguing for even government censorship of certain views: Censor white supremacy
Here's another ridiculous article calling for censorship, this time from a rabid SJW viewpoint: When ''Free Speech'' Kills
Well, I disagree that everything laudible is good if done by the state. That was her basic point supporting state censorship.
No. There are some powers we do not give to the government even though they be given to other entities. We may agree that corporations have way too much power, but they still do not have the powers given to the state. And it is because of the powers granted to the state that we do not allow the state to exercise prior censorship.
Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
Articles are opinions, nothing more. Refer me to a governmental law that is directly prohibiting these white nationalists from enjoying their first amendment right.
I'm just posting different opinions. Obviously there are people calling for more and more censorship. And they're being listened to.
And then they'll whine about being victims when there's a huge rightist backlash.