The Gospel of John Claims that Jesus is God

[pearl]

Its not the love Jesus spoke of. That love goes to ones enemies as well.

Therefore, you shall love the LORD, your God, with your whole heart, and with your whole being, and with your whole strength

Deut 6:5

You shall treat the alien who resides with you no differently than the natives born among you; you shall love the alien as yourself; for you too were once aliens in the land of Egypt. I, the LORD, am your God.

Lev 19:34

 

[kjw47]

Therefore, you shall love the LORD, your God, with your whole heart, and with your whole being, and with your whole strength

Deut 6:5

You shall treat the alien who resides with you no differently than the natives born among you; you shall love the alien as yourself; for you too were once aliens in the land of Egypt. I, the LORD, am your God.

Lev 19:34

In thereal writings--At Deut 6:5-LORD is actually-YHVH(Jehovah)--Men removed that name. Every spot-GOD or LORD all capitals. nearly 6800 spots. They had no right. It confused many.

 

[pearl]

In thereal writings--At Deut 6:5-LORD is actually-YHVH(Jehovah)--Men removed that name. Every spot-GOD or LORD all capitals. nearly 6800 spots. They had no right. It confused many.

By what ever 'name' it refers to the God of Israel, and both Hebrew Scripture and Christian Scripture follow the commandment to love God and neighbor, even the 'alien'.

 

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For I handed on to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the scriptures; 4that he was buried; that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures; 5that he appeared to Cephas, then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7After that he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8Last of all, as to one born abnormally, he appeared to me.

But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and had called me through his grace, was pleased to reveal his Son to me, in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not confer with flesh and blood, nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia; and again I returned to Damascus Gal 1:15-17

Paul believed he is a true witness of the 'Risen One' and has received his own mission directly from the Risen One. While Luke's account in Acts contains more embellished details, they agree that Jesus spoke to Paul, called him to the apostolate and made him a true Apostle, a witness of the Resurrection and the task of proclaiming the risen Christ to the Gentiles.

I believe Paul to be an apostle of God but not an Apostle the way the church refers to those who walked with Jesus.

 

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The first male to whom the risen Jesus appeared was Simon the son of Cleophas and not Cephas=Peter.

I believe I haven't seen any evidence to support that view. I suspect it is a time problem.

 

[kjw47]

By what ever 'name' it refers to the God of Israel, and both Hebrew Scripture and Christian Scripture follow the commandment to love God and neighbor, even the 'alien'.

Hard to Love God when most on earth don't even know him. Jesus warned all that would happen-John 15:20-21

 

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Because in 1 Corinthians 15: 5; Paul says that the risen Jesus appeared to Cephus first before appearing to the 12. Whereas Luke 24 18: reveals that Cleopas and another who met the risen Jesus on the road to Emmaus, did not recognize him for who he was until they saw the Manner in which he broke the bread.

They then returned to Jerusalem, where the eleven disciples were cowering in a darkened room, Simon Peter called Cephus was there as was Simon the Patriot, the only one missing that night was Thomas Didymus Jude, the half brother to Jesus who was called 'The Twin." I don't believe he was an actual twin, but simply held a striking resemblance to one with who he shared a common father, as will be revealed, if asked.

Opening the door for Cleopas, he said to the eleven, He has risen, He appeared to Simon, which was not Simon Peter, nor Simon the Patriot, but Simon the son of Cleopas who was the husband of Mary the mother of Jesus.

It was then that an image of one who they believed was Jesus entered the room.

I believe it would be easy for Paul to make that mistake just as it is for us if all he has is a report that Simon saw Him first.

 

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Hard to Love God when most on earth don't even know him. Jesus warned all that would happen-John 15:20-21

I believe I have never known a JW who knew God.

 

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In thereal writings--At Deut 6:5-LORD is actually-YHVH(Jehovah)--Men removed that name. Every spot-GOD or LORD all capitals. nearly 6800 spots. They had no right. It confused many.

I believe when people don't have the Holy Spirit like JW's they simply do what they think is right. That is why the JW's get so many things wrong.

 

[kjw47]

I believe I have never known a JW who knew God.

They know the Father-YHVH(Jehovah) as best as possible. They have personal relationships with him. They live to do his will as all real followers do. Like Jesus does-John 5:30)

 

[kjw47]

I believe when people don't have the Holy Spirit like JW's they simply do what they think is right. That is why the JW's get so many things wrong.

Its the opposite of your words. They have corrected many errors from 1800 years ago and up. Even their own.

 

[74x12]

Actually the Father was called-HO THEOS in greek. Jesus never was called HO THEOS( THE GOD) just plain theos= a god. It did not call the Logos-Ho THEOS.

Making a counter claim doesn't really address my actual points. All it does is make a counter claim.

Theos is Theos. Whether you say Ho Theos or Theos we know that God is one and there is none beside Him. Yet you say that there is one god beside God.

What can disprove your New Worldly Translation?

 

[74x12]

They know the Father-YHVH(Jehovah) as best as possible. They have personal relationships with him. They live to do his will as all real followers do. Like Jesus does-John 5:30)

No one does or even knows the will of God until they've received baptism of the holy Spirit and entered in the "strait" gate.

 

[pearl]

I believe Paul to be an apostle of God but not an Apostle the way the church refers to those who walked with Jesus.

True, Paul did not walk the earthly life with Jesus, he was not one of the 12. But if by apostle it is meant that one was a witness to the risen Jesus, then by that standard Paul was an apostle though not one of His immediate Disciples. An apostle is one who is 'sent', if Paul is to be believed he was given a mission by the risen Christ.

 

[pearl]

Hard to Love God when most on earth don't even know him

Not everyone is going to 'know' God by another's personal standards. That's a judgment that is not ours to make. I believe that the majority of believers live their lives walking humbly with their God, we don't hear much from them as we do those who distort and corrupt his message.

 

[kjw47]

Making a counter claim doesn't really address my actual points. All it does is make a counter claim.

Theos is Theos. Whether you say Ho Theos or Theos we know that God is one and there is none beside Him. Yet you say that there is one god beside God.

What can disprove your New Worldly Translation?

Ho Theos= The God--- Plain Theos= a god. It makes a huge difference. Only the Father is called Ho Theos in the NT.

 

[kjw47]

No one does or even knows the will of God until they've received baptism of the holy Spirit and entered in the "strait" gate.

The bible is filled with Gods will. That is why Jesus taught---MAN does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God.

 

[kjw47]

Not everyone is going to 'know' God by another's personal standards. That's a judgment that is not ours to make. I believe that the majority of believers live their lives walking humbly with their God, we don't hear much from them as we do those who distort and corrupt his message.

Jesus taught one MUST know the Father( one who sent Jesus-John 5:30) as THE ONLY TRUE GOD and know Jesus to get eternal life-John 17:3)--Few listen to Jesus--John 17:6= YHVH(Jehovah) John 17:26= YHVH( Jehovah)

 

[74x12]

Ho Theos= The God--- Plain Theos= a god. It makes a huge difference. Only the Father is called Ho Theos in the NT.

No it doesn't. Your assertion makes no sense because if we go to John 1:6 we find that God(the Father obviously) is called simply Theos. Not Ho Theos.

John 1:6 (KJV)

 

[kjw47]

No it doesn't. Your assertion makes no sense because if we go to John 1:6 we find that God(the Father obviously) is called simply Theos. Not Ho Theos.

John 1:6 (KJV)

I am speaking of the writings in the greek language. Going from one language to another can cause problems in what was actually said. Only the Father is called HO THEOS.