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The history of gambling predates religion?

Cooky

Veteran Member
Maybe it does. Here, I'm going to explore this history using Google. Join me if you like on an adventure into history.

The history of dice traces back to 3000 BC, and traditionally have dots because dice originated before written numbers.

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Cooky

Veteran Member
List of religions that forbid gambling:

Islam
Mennonites
Quakers
Christian Reformed Church in North America
Church of the Lutheran Confession
Southern Baptist Convention
Assemblies of God
Seventh-day Adventist Church
United Methodist Church
Free Methodist Church
Evangelical Wesleyan Church
Salvation Army
Church of the Nazarene
Jehovah's Witnesses
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Iglesia Ni Cristo
Members Church of God International

Jewish and Hindu religions traditionally frown on it, but have no official stance against it.

The Catholic Church holds the position that there is no moral impediment to gambling, so long as it is fair.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Maybe it does. Here, I'm going to explore this history using Google. Join me if you like on an adventure into history.

The history of dice traces back to 3000 BC, and traditionally have dots because dice originated before written numbers.

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There have been found are likely religious artifacts that are far older than (the oldest I recall is closer to 20,000 years old). Religion likely did exist even before we did.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
There have been found are likely religious artifacts that are far older than (the oldest I recall is closer to 20,000 years old). Religion likely did exist even before we did.

interesting that prior to dice, the knucle bones of sheep and goats were used even thousands of years prior to ancient numbered dice. These even older dice are called astragali.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
There have been found are likely religious artifacts that are far older than (the oldest I recall is closer to 20,000 years old). Religion likely did exist even before we did.
Given the propensity of archaeologists to call anything they don't understand cultic, I have my doubts.
But yes, some form of animism and ancestor cult is probably very old.
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
interesting that prior to dice, the knucle bones of sheep and goats were used even thousands of years prior to ancient numbered dice. These even older dice are called astragali.
Also older then cubic dice:

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These sticks, used either for rolling or counting were used in Egypt and India.
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
People used dice and knuckle bones
to explore the Will of the Divines
and to catch glimpses of the future
both troubling and beneficial

Earliest Chinese writing e.g.
was cracks in oracular bones

Perhaps what we now see as gambling
was simply trying to get closer to the gods
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
People used dice and knuckle bones
to explore the Will of the Divines
and to catch glimpses of the future
both troubling and beneficial

Earliest Chinese writing e.g.
was cracks in oracular bones

Perhaps what we now see as gambling
was simply trying to get closer to the gods
Or what we now see as religious
was simply a game.

Archaeologists label everything they don't understand as cultic/religious.
I've come to interpret "cultic" as an archaeologist technical term for "we have no friggin idea".
 

Kooky

Freedom from Sanity
Or what we now see as religious
was simply a game.

Archaeologists label everything they don't understand as cultic/religious.
I've come to interpret "cultic" as an archaeologist technical term for "we have no friggin idea".
The future was at stake, the will of the goods needed to be known
It is possible that the people who were writing
lists upon lists of oracular answers
were liars
But I assume they were godly men with godly purposes

Also, games can be godly
or even Olympic
 
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