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The Holy Shelah: Lamb of God Demonic Lord.

John D. Brey

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The Shelah is a consummate scholar who demonstrates mastery in every aspect of rabbinic learning, to wit, halakah and talmudic jurisprudence, homiletics and biblical exegesis, philosophy and ethics, and above all else the esoteric traditions known as Kabbalah. Horowitz combines an extensive knowledge of talmudic-halakhic Judaism and kabbalistic lore and thereby forges a synthesis that he presents as the basic reality of Jewish religiosity.​
Professor Elliot R. Wolfson.​

Rabbi Isaiah Horowitz, the holy Shelah, isn't one prone to theological flights of fancy. So when he teaches that the lamb of God, i.e., the paschal lamb, symbolizes a demonic lord, well, hard as that might be for a Christian to swallow (being that Jesus is directly paralleled with the paschal lamb), nevertheless, it's not some Jewish conspiracy theory designed to taunt the sister faith. On the contrary, it's a primary line of demarcation dividing and quite plausibly uniting a Jewish versus a Christian understanding concerning the deepest strata of theological significance.



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John D. Brey

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The Shelah is a consummate scholar who demonstrates mastery in every aspect of rabbinic learning, to wit, halakah and talmudic jurisprudence, homiletics and biblical exegesis, philosophy and ethics, and above all else the esoteric traditions known as Kabbalah. Horowitz combines an extensive knowledge of talmudic-halakhic Judaism and kabbalistic lore and thereby forges a synthesis that he presents as the basic reality of Jewish religiosity.​
Professor Elliot R. Wolfson.​

Rabbi Isaiah Horowitz, the holy Shelah, isn't one prone to theological flights of fancy. So when he teaches that the lamb of God, i.e., the paschal lamb, symbolizes a demonic Lord, well, hard as that might be for a Christian to swallow (being that Jesus is directly paralleled with the paschal lamb), nevertheless, it's not some Jewish conspiracy theory designed to taunt the sister faith. On the contrary, it's a primary line of demarcation dividing and quite plausibly uniting a Jewish versus a Christian understanding concerning the deepest strata of theological significance.

The purpose of the Passover sacrifice is first and foremost to demonstrate G–d's superiority over all other deities both in Heaven and on earth. This is important; G–d had endowed many agents with different powers, and the impression that there were a number of primary sources of power in the universe had to be refuted. The discrediting of the strongest of these forces, the שר של מצרים, automatically brought about the discrediting of all other deities. . . The zodiac sign of the lamb is the first of the twelve zodiac signs and represents the senior power to which G–d delegated a variety of such functions. It was this symbol which had to be slaughtered to drive home the point that without the consent of G–d it represented impotence instead of power. Since the Egyptians had made it a symbol of their שר, counterpart in the Celestial Regions, it had to be slaughtered by the Jews​
Shney Luchot Haberit, Torah Shebikhtav, Bo, Torah Ohr 7.
Can a "sacrifice" without spot or blemish be the "slaughtering" of a pagan deity (or a representation of a pagan deity)? Can a pagan deity (or the symbolic representation of it) be ingested as is the case with the Passover sacrifice? Is the blood of a pagan deity, or the representation of that blood, ritually clean, so that it can be placed on the doorposts of the Jewish home along with the blood of circumcision, which is (circumcision blood) ritually clean? Since according to Jewish scripture these two bloods are both placed on the doorposts on Passover there's every reason to assume they're both ritually clean. You couldn't place the blood of niddah on the doorpost.

Which sets up an interesting juxtaposing of the phallus as a pagan deity and the Passover lamb as a pagan deity. They're both ritually sacrificed, the blood of both of them is placed on the doorposts on the original Passover, and yet the blood of both of them is ritually clean? In modern times, the cloth used to clean the blood of a ritual circumcision is sometimes hung on the doorpost of the synagogue to advertise that a ritual circumcision has taken place. Naturally this would be a no no if the blood wasn't, ritually speaking, clean as the driven snow.


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GoodAttention

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The purpose of the Passover sacrifice is first and foremost to demonstrate G–d's superiority over all other deities both in Heaven and on earth. This is important; G–d had endowed many agents with different powers, and the impression that there were a number of primary sources of power in the universe had to be refuted. The discrediting of the strongest of these forces, the שר של מצרים, automatically brought about the discrediting of all other deities. . . The zodiac sign of the lamb is the first of the twelve zodiac signs and represents the senior power to which G–d delegated a variety of such functions. It was this symbol which had to be slaughtered to drive home the point that without the consent of G–d it represented impotence instead of power. Since the Egyptians had made it a symbol of their שר, counterpart in the Celestial Regions, it had to be slaughtered by the Jews​
Shney Luchot Haberit, Torah Shebikhtav, Bo, Torah Ohr 7.
Can a "sacrifice" without spot or blemish be the "slaughtering" of a pagan deity (or a representation of a pagan deity)? Can a pagan deity (or the symbolic representation of it) be ingested as is the case with the Passover sacrifice? Is the blood of a pagan deity, or the representation of that blood, ritually clean, so that it can be placed on the doorposts of the Jewish home along with the blood of circumcision, which is (circumcision blood) ritually clean? Since according to Jewish scripture these two bloods are both placed on the doorposts on Passover there's every reason to assume they're both ritually clean. You couldn't place the blood of niddah on the doorpost.

Which sets up an interesting juxtaposing of the phallus as a pagan deity and the Passover lamb as a pagan deity. They're both ritually sacrificed, the blood of both of them is placed on the doorposts on the original Passover, and yet the blood of both of them is ritually clean?

But of course! I can sacrifice a goat to God, or one to Satan. Which of these is ritually clean? Which is unclean?

So it was in ancient Egypt that the men were circumcized, but were done so in the name of the Pharoah, their "living god".

Is it the act that is "clean" or "unclean", or is it to whom the sacrifice is intended? Here the lamb is the Pharoah as you say, and killing it is to take any power away from him.


In modern times, the cloth used to clean the blood of a ritual circumcision is sometimes hung on the doorpost of the synagogue to advertise that a ritual circumcision has taken place. Naturally this would be a no no if the blood wasn't, ritually speaking, clean as the driven snow.

God's name makes it clean, nothing more, nothing less.
 

Elihoenai

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The Shelah is a consummate scholar who demonstrates mastery in every aspect of rabbinic learning, to wit, halakah and talmudic jurisprudence, homiletics and biblical exegesis, philosophy and ethics, and above all else the esoteric traditions known as Kabbalah. Horowitz combines an extensive knowledge of talmudic-halakhic Judaism and kabbalistic lore and thereby forges a synthesis that he presents as the basic reality of Jewish religiosity.​
Professor Elliot R. Wolfson.​

Rabbi Isaiah Horowitz, the holy Shelah, isn't one prone to theological flights of fancy. So when he teaches that the lamb of God, i.e., the paschal lamb, symbolizes a demonic Lord, well, hard as that might be for a Christian to swallow (being that Jesus is directly paralleled with the paschal lamb), nevertheless, it's not some Jewish conspiracy theory designed to taunt the sister faith. On the contrary, it's a primary line of demarcation dividing and quite plausibly uniting a Jewish versus a Christian understanding concerning the deepest strata of theological significance.



John
Isaiah 2:22

22 Cease ye from man, whose breath is in his nostrils: for wherein is he to be accounted of?



Do you agree that the Lamb of God is the Son of Man?
 

John D. Brey

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But of course! I can sacrifice a goat to God, or one to Satan. Which of these is ritually clean? Which is unclean?

The Jewish concept of tum'ah and taharah (ritually unclean versus clean) is part of an elaborate and important system of theological thought and action. It's purpose and meaning is found within that system of thought and action.

So it was in ancient Egypt that the men were circumcized, but were done so in the name of the Pharoah, their "living god".

I'm not familiar with this?

Here the lamb is the Pharoah as you say, and killing it is to take any power away from him.

According to the Shelah, the lamb represents the Egyptian's primary prince in the "celestial" realm: a demigod or demon. What's particularly useful in Horowitz understanding is that he concedes the Egyptian prince/lord is a genuine deity given power from God himself. In this sense, he's like the Jewish epistle Toledot Yeshu which tries to explain the Jesus-phenomenon as a genuine historical reality while attributing his miraculous powers to forces below, and in ways contrary to, the Jewish God.

God's name makes it clean, nothing more, nothing less.

This statement segues into the meat of this thread:

G–d further commanded the lamb to be without blemish (12,5) because it is designed to secure רצון שם הנכבד, the goodwill of G–d's glorious name, another description of the שכינה. It is said of Israel in Song of Songs 4,7: כולך יפה רעיתי ומום אין בך, "You are entirely fair, my beloved, and there is no blemish in you." By performing the rites of the Passover sacrifice properly we aim to qualify for the praise expressed in Song of Songs. After all, G–d came to establish peace and harmony in the world, the reverse of what we read in Jeremiah 6,7: חמס ושוד ישמע בה על פני תמיד, חלי ומכה, "Lawlessness and rape are heard in her; before Me constantly are sickness and wounds." Try and understand this as it is important.​
Shney Luchot Haberit, Torah Shebikhtav, Bo, Torah Ohr 12 (the quotation is Horowitz quoting Rekanati).

A number of peculiarities complicate the statement above therein making it appear something like cognitive dissonance is seeping out of the statement in a quasi-Freudian manner since in the Gospels and Apostolic writings Jesus is considered God and is named the "Lamb of God" (who makes the world clean ---John 1:29). In the Gospels and Apostolic writings, "Lamb of God" is the glorious aspect of the name of God.

Rekanati, as quoted by Horowitz, relates the paschal lamb with God's glorious name (which in the Gospels and Apostolic writings is, ironically, the "Lamb of God"). Rekanati then notes the lamb is said to be without blemish, just before he quotes Songs 4:7 to the effect that the beloved of God is likewise without blemish. Reckoned contextually Rekanati surely realizes it's the lamb that's being related to the beloved of God and not the sacrificer Israel (the lamb is required to be without blemish not Israel)? In fact, Rekanati quotes Jeremiah saying that Israel/Jerusalem is a place of rape and sickness and not a place without blemish. In effect, Israel/Jerusalem requires the sacrifice of the paschal lamb not because they're already without blemish, but precisely in order to be made clean prior to entering into their imminent journey with God. Try and understand this as it is important. :)



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John D. Brey

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Do you agree that the Lamb of God is the Son of Man?

Yes.

Which is why it's pertinent that Rabbi Horowitz is reading the paschal lamb as a demonic lord being sacrificed for the sake of Israel's preparation for entry into the promised land. This is the Gospel message in brief.

In the Jewish epistle Toledot Yeshu, Jesus' miraculous powers are acknowledged as historical fact by the orthodox Jews behind the epistle. But they attribute those powers to lesser deities, and they consider Jesus' use of these powers as contrary to the nature of God's plan for Israel. By making the paschal lamb a demonic lord, the holy Shelah is merely using the Pharisaical reading of the Gospels as a template placed over the story of the paschal lamb as found in Exodus chapter 12.

In effect, the Shelah appears to be subconsciously acknowledging that if Jesus is the archetype for the paschal lamb (or vice versa), then the paschal lamb must be sacrificed as a demigod just as Judaism reads the Gospel account of the slaughter of Jesus of Nazareth as the death of a non-Jewish demigod. Nachmanides concurs:

A lamb. The astrological sign of Aries the ram is, of course, at its greatest strength during Nisan, when it is the rising sign. Slaughtering a lamb demonstrated that we did not leave Egypt by force of astrology, but by divine decree. The argument has even more force according to the understand of our Sages that this constellation was worshiped by the Egyptians, in which case God would have brought low their god at the very height of his ascendancy. The Sages read it this way: "Take a sheep and slaughter the god of the Egyptians."​



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GoodAttention

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I'm not familiar with this?

That circumcision was practiced in ancient Egypt? Evidence exists before the Hyksos period.




That it was done in the name of the Pharoah?
That is my theory, since circumcision is seen as a religious ritual, and the Pharoah considered the god. Otherwise, why was it performed at all?
 

John D. Brey

Well-Known Member
That circumcision was practiced in ancient Egypt? Evidence exists before the Hyksos period.




That it was done in the name of the Pharoah?
That is my theory, since circumcision is seen as a religious ritual, and the Pharoah considered the god. Otherwise, why was it performed at all?

It wasn't pre-Israelite circumcision I was unfamiliar with. It was merely the way you were framing it.

We did a thread here a few years ago, Menarche as Men's Archetype, that discussed the universal anthropological nature of circumcision as a mythological form of male menstruation. The last few threads here have been dying to be an addendum to that thread and where it was going.



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John D. Brey

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In effect, the Shelah appears to be subconsciously acknowledging that if Jesus is the archetype for the paschal lamb (or vice versa), then the paschal lamb must be sacrificed as a demigod just as Judaism reads the Gospel account of the slaughter of Jesus of Nazareth as the death of a non-Jewish demigod. Nachmanides concurs:

There's reason to believe that notwithstanding the parallel the Shelah draws between the paschal lamb and the Gospel's lamb of God (both of which are slaughtered as a Jewish response to idolatry and blasphemy), nevertheless, it seems highly likely that the Shelah's brilliant theologoumenon never existed prior to the first century of the current era. For reasons that can be easily examined, it seems very unlikely that anyone can link the paschal sacrifice with the slaughter of an Egyptian god prior to the necessity or usefulness of doing so after the first century of the current era.

The symbiosis between Jesus as the bane of Judaism while being simultaneously recognized by Gentiles as the God of gods (or Lord of lords) is too perfectly situated as a means of linking the slaughter of Jesus with a decree in the Tanakh to slaughter the paschal lamb. In effect, the Shelah's reading of the paschal lamb being a Gentile demigod acts in a too fitting way as a Jewish response to the Gospels and Apostolic writings where Jesus is called the "lamb of God" (John 1:29) and where he's related directly to the paschal lamb (1 Cor. 5:7).

By claiming the paschal lamb was slaughtered as the destruction of a pagan idol, post-first century Jewish Sages can situate the slaughter of Jesus of Nazareth with the slaughter of the paschal lamb by using the Christian's own scripture's which label Jesus the paschal lamb of God. In effect, the Jewish Sages use the Gospel writers claim that Jesus is the lamb of God (John 1:29), the true paschal lamb (1 Cor. 5:7), against them, by claiming the original paschal lamb was slaughtered for the same or similar reason as Jesus of Nazareth, vis-à-vis idolatry and blasphemy.



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John D. Brey

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By claiming the paschal lamb was slaughtered as the destruction of a pagan idol, post-first century Jewish Sages can situate the slaughter of Jesus of Nazareth with the slaughter of the paschal lamb by using the Christian's own scripture's which label Jesus the paschal lamb of God. In effect, the Jewish Sages use the Gospel writers claim that Jesus is the lamb of God (John 1:29), the true paschal lamb (1 Cor. 5:7), against them, by claiming the original paschal lamb was slaughtered for the same or similar reason as Jesus of Nazareth, vis-à-vis idolatry and blasphemy.

The idea that the paschal lamb represents a pagan deity such that slaughtering it is a service to God appears to go squarely against the very basics of what a Jewish sacrifice always represents elsewhere throughout the Tanakh. In the argument of the Shelah, the slaughtering of the passover lamb finds its efficacious nature in the destruction of the idea of a secondary god lording his authority over God or God's people. The Shelah implies that it pains the Egyptians knowing Israel is slaughtering their god (the lamb) in order to symbolize his inability to restrain them from leaving Egypt. The symbolism is of violence and forceful retribution rather than the typical atonement. In the general concept found elsewhere throughout the Tanakh the sacrifice atones for the sin or failure of the sacrificer:

One of the reasons for animal sacrifice which is discussed by Nachmanides on Leviticus 1,9 is as follows: "It would have been more appropriate if the fools who thought that the animal sacrifice legislation was only an accommodation to the people who were in the habit of offering sacrifices to pagan deities would have paid attention to the reason that Maimonides gave for this. He described the people among whom the Jews lived as deifying the animals in question. The Jewish people had to learn by slaughtering precisely those animals that they were not deities. . . G–d commanded that when man has sinned and offers an animal sacrifice as a sin-offering, he must place his hands (weight) on the animal as a symbol of the sinful act he has committed. He must recite a confession as a symbol of the words that preceded the sinful act for which he is attempting to atone. . . He has to sprinkle the blood of the animal on the altar, the blood representing his life-form, נפש. By performing all these actions, the sinner will concentrate on the enormity of the error he committed against his G–d with both his body and his soul, and he will realize that by rights it is his own life that should have expiated for his sin, not that of an innocent animal. It is only by the kindness extended to him by G–d that he is able to substitute the life of the animal for his own. . . When the animal is slaughtered this is equivalent to the owner killing himself."​
Shney Luchot HaBerit, Torah Shebikhtav, Sefer Vayikra, Torah Ohr, Vayikra 24.​

Not only does none of this jibe with the seemingly contrived idea that the paschal lamb is sacrificed as a pagan deity ---in a retributive rather than an atoning manner --- but by noting that for the pagans the animal is an avatar of a god, or deity, the Shelah makes one think of a statement by Professor Nahum Sarna to the effect that only by means of the generalized or classical concepts of the pre-existing pagan symbols can anyone make sense of the tranformation of those symbols as they take place in Judaism:

We do not mean to suggest, however, that the biblical b'rit is a slavish imitation of contemporary Near Eastern norms. On the contrary, it displays an originality and independence that transforms it into a wholly new creation, the innovative nature of which can only be adequately appreciated against the background of the classical model.​
Professor Nahum Sarna, Exploring Exodus.

In the classical model, the animal is a symbolic surrogate for a deity. The Jewish sacrifice of that classical model isn't a slavish imitation of the pagan idea. Nevertheless, to appreciate the originality of the Jewish model requires the realization that the Jewish model, coming as it does out of the preexisting thought processes, is a transformation of a preexisting idea and not the wholesale slaughter or retribution against the pagan idea. With that said, the Jewish concepts must be transforming the pagan idea of the animal sacrifice as an avatar of pure unallowed deity, i.e., the "symbol" of their god. Consequently, the Jewish transformation acknowledges the idea that the animal represents deity, while allowing that for Jews, the only animal that's truly created in the image of (as an avatar for) God, is man himself. Man must himself be the sacrifice. In this way the first century Jews who saw a man, created in God's image, as the truth that the paschal lamb merely represented, is such a powerful rendition of Professor Sarna's claim that that powerful idea seems as though it is itself the impetus for the serious crime of rewriting the meaning of the paschal lamb in a manner to cover up what the first century Jews wroght when they appreciated that the only fitting animal sacrifice would needs be of a blameless man not a beast.

In effect, for the first century Jews, an innocent man, born without blemish, conceived apart from the "evil smelling drop of semen" (R. Horowitz), is sacrificed as the surrogate for the sacrificer. And since there's only one such person claimed to have been born apart from the evil smelling drop of semen, the sacrifice of that person must do, once and for all, for all sacrificers, for all sins, what multiferous lower mammals symbolized in the pagan rituals as well and the Jewish rituals that pre-seeded the birth of the actuality the paschal lamb ritualized.

For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and ascarlet wool, and chyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, 20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you. 21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry. 22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission. 23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us: 25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others; 26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: 28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.​
Hebrews 9:19–28.​



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Elihoenai

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Yes.

Which is why it's pertinent that Rabbi Horowitz is reading the paschal lamb as a demonic lord being sacrificed for the sake of Israel's preparation for entry into the promised land. This is the Gospel message in brief.

In the Jewish epistle Toledot Yeshu, Jesus' miraculous powers are acknowledged as historical fact by the orthodox Jews behind the epistle. But they attribute those powers to lesser deities, and they consider Jesus' use of these powers as contrary to the nature of God's plan for Israel. By making the paschal lamb a demonic lord, the holy Shelah is merely using the Pharisaical reading of the Gospels as a template placed over the story of the paschal lamb as found in Exodus chapter 12.

In effect, the Shelah appears to be subconsciously acknowledging that if Jesus is the archetype for the paschal lamb (or vice versa), then the paschal lamb must be sacrificed as a demigod just as Judaism reads the Gospel account of the slaughter of Jesus of Nazareth as the death of a non-Jewish demigod. Nachmanides concurs:

A lamb. The astrological sign of Aries the ram is, of course, at its greatest strength during Nisan, when it is the rising sign. Slaughtering a lamb demonstrated that we did not leave Egypt by force of astrology, but by divine decree. The argument has even more force according to the understand of our Sages that this constellation was worshiped by the Egyptians, in which case God would have brought low their god at the very height of his ascendancy. The Sages read it this way: "Take a sheep and slaughter the god of the Egyptians."​



John
Deuteronomy 33:1

33 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.



Moses is a Demi-God. Does the Jewish Teachers of Judaism Acknowledge that Moses is a Demonic Lord?

Lesser Deities are Parts/Attributes of the One True Elohim/God.
 
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John D. Brey

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Deuteronomy 33:1

33 And this is the blessing, wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.



Moses is a Demi-God. Does the Jewish Teachers of Judaism Acknowledge that Moses is a Demonic Lord?

. . . They do acknowledge the strange Hebrew that says Moses is a man of God, or a God/man.




John
 

Elihoenai

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. . . They do acknowledge the strange Hebrew that says Moses is a man of God, or a God/man.




John
Exodus 12:12

12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.



In Moses Total Obedience to the Commandments of Elohim/God Moses is Man of Elohim/God or Elohim's/God's Man. The Egyptians are Sacrificed Representing the Lamb of God.
 

Elihoenai

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That circumcision was practiced in ancient Egypt? Evidence exists before the Hyksos period.




That it was done in the name of the Pharoah?
That is my theory, since circumcision is seen as a religious ritual, and the Pharoah considered the god. Otherwise, why was it performed at all?
3. Circumcision to Prevent Sacrifice to the Idols and Other Deities of Humans

"...King or God Osiris knew that stopping men from sacrificing humans to the idols or other deities would not occur by any type of persuasion, commandment, or prohibition. Instead, he introduced a religious custom, circumcision, as an alternative. A circumcised individual already gave a part of his body to the Deity, and he is defective, insofar as they are not as originally created by God, and thus unsuitable for sacrifice...."




Given that Circumcision makes you Defective Not Originally Created by Elohim/God, it can be Considered a Mark of Total Rebellion Against Elohim/God. It could be that those who are viewed as Devoted to Elohim/God are Really Total Rebels Against Elohim/God. Egyptians are the Arch Enemies of Israel. Giving part of your body to the Egyptian Deity means Worship to the gods of Egypt.

The United States, the Most Powerful Nation in the World, is a Circumcised Nation. The United States is Really English.



Prevalence of circumcision

United States


As of 2014, an estimated 80.5% of American men aged 14-59 are circumcised.[14][44] Morris et al. found a present rate of 77% in 2010, when accounting for underreporting. During the 2000s, the prevalence of circumcision in men aged 14–59 differed by race: 91 percent of non-Hispanic white men, 76 percent of black men, and 44 percent of Hispanic men (of any race) were circumcised, according to Mayo Clinic Proceedings.[14] Wolters Kluwer estimated that closer to 80% of males as of April 2023 were circumcised.



Amish Abduction - Trailer
 
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John D. Brey

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Exodus 12:12

12 For I will pass through the land of Egypt this night, and will smite all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.



In Moses Total Obedience to the Commandments of Elohim/God Moses is Man of Elohim/God or Elohim's/God's Man. The Egyptians are Sacrificed Representing the Lamb of God.

I don't think the lamb of God represents the Egyptians or vice versa. I think the lamb of God represents God, per 1 Cor. 5:7. So do you disagree with 1 Cor. 5:7?

26 And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? 27 That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD’s passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.​
Exodus 12:26–27.​

Exodus 12:26-27 seems to say the pesach lamb smote the Egyptians and passed over Israel.



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Elihoenai

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I don't think the lamb of God represents the Egyptians or vice versa. I think the lamb of God represents God, per 1 Cor. 5:7. So do you disagree with 1 Cor. 5:7?

26 And it shall come to pass, when your children shall say unto you, What mean ye by this service? 27 That ye shall say, It is the sacrifice of the LORD’s passover, who passed over the houses of the children of Israel in Egypt, when he smote the Egyptians, and delivered our houses.​
Exodus 12:26–27.​

Exodus 12:26-27 seems to say the pesach lamb smote the Egyptians and passed over Israel.



John
Colossians 2:13-15

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.



I don't Disagree with anything in the Holy Scriptures/Bible. I Am in Total Agreement with Everything in the Holy Scriptures/Bible from Genesis to Revelation.

The Passover is Moving From one place to Another. The Kill/Smite is the Egyptians bringing forth Christ. The Sacrifice is the Kill/Smite. Have you considered that Christ Represents the Egyptians? Remember The Journey of Israel in Egypt to the Promise Land.
 
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