The idea of "one world government"

[Antibush5]

What do you think about it, what problems do you find with the idea?
Create a human cultural identity rather then a national one (which in my oppinion makes a lot more sense, then nationalism, which is little more then glorified tribalism)

 

[Reverend Rick]

I like glorified tribalism. :yes:

 

[Caladan]

What do you think about it, what problems do you find with the idea?
Create a human cultural identity rather then a national one (which in my oppinion makes a lot more sense, then nationalism, which is little more then glorified tribalism)

Impossible, and if such a scenario will ever take place it will be the most totalitarian and brutal dictatorship in history, you cannot take societies which are so radically different from each other and expect them to be the citizens of the same mega state following the same social norms.

 

[kai]

What do you think about it, what problems do you find with the idea?
Create a human cultural identity rather then a national one (which in my oppinion makes a lot more sense, then nationalism, which is little more then glorified tribalism)

I am all for the idea as long as its British

 

[sandandfoam]

Little bosses are bad enough. I think a situation where there'd be some gang of politicians in charge of the world would be the worst.

 

[Panda]

I think Caladan sums it up well.

 

[Storm]

What do you think about it, what problems do you find with the idea?

We're not ready.

Create a human cultural identity rather then a national one (which in my oppinion makes a lot more sense, then nationalism, which is little more then glorified tribalism)

You're right, but we're tribal by nature.

Impossible, and if such a scenario will ever take place it will be the most totalitarian and brutal dictatorship in history, you cannot take societies which are so radically different from each other and expect them to be the citizens of the same mega state following the same social norms.

I'm a little more optimistic than this, though. LOL.

 

[Antibush5]

Impossible, and if such a scenario will ever take place it will be the most totalitarian and brutal dictatorship in history, you cannot take societies which are so radically different from each other and expect them to be the citizens of the same mega state following the same social norms.

European Union ***** Yeah. I'd say Muslims and Christians living side by side, different races and cultures living side by side, is the EU a dictatorship? No it is a democracy.

 

[Breathe]

I don't think it would work out.

I don't think a one-size-fits all world government would work. The world is too different. Countries should work with one another in a spirit of harmony and brotherhood, but that doesn't mean they need to be ruled by the same people.

As long as countries are religiously neutral (neither forcing or punishing religion or non-religion), democratic, equality of all regardless of race, creed, gender (etc), and so on, then I don't see why we should have to be ruled as one country.

You try telling the US or Britain they need to change the side of the road they drive on, or Singapore they need to legalise cannabis, try telling Saudi Arabia to give equal treatment to men and women and religious freedoms. Somehow I don't think they will take you seriously. Hell, the UN couldn't even get the Universal Declaration of Human Rights to work, they had to create an Islamic one, as well (Cairo Declaration of Human Rights in Islam).

So how do you overcome these problems?


Edit: What Caladan and Stephen wrote is spot on.

 

[Antibush5]

So how do you overcome these problems?

I think you can enforce things, if you have enough fire power.
You give people enough exposure to a good thing, while stopping them from being violent against it (in their ignorance of course) then they will start to see the good.

 

[Reverend Rick]

That's just it, if you don't like a countries rules, you can leave and live somewhere else. A one world government democracy would be akin to three wolves and one sheep voting on whats for dinner.

 

[sandandfoam]

is the EU a dictatorship? No it is a democracy.

Really?
I've only ever voted for MEP's who disappear until the next time. Seems very much to me that unelected officials run and hold the power in the EU. Seems most undemocratic. Remember the Lisbon Treaty?

 

[Breathe]

is the EU a dictatorship? No it is a democracy.

I'd hate to see your idea of a dictatorship, then. EU is certainly not a democracy.

Where's my vote on the Lisbon treaty? Oh wait, I didn't get one.

 

[Caladan]

I think you can enforce things, if you have enough fire power.

You can, and people like me have enforced order on other populations.

You give people enough exposure to a good thing, while stopping them from being violent against it (in their ignorance of course) then they will start to see the good.

This is where you are wrong, your 'good things' are a curse and a liability for other cultures.

 

[sandandfoam]

I think you can enforce things, if you have enough fire power.
You give people enough exposure to a good thing, while stopping them from being violent against it (in their ignorance of course) then they will start to see the good.

Sounds nothing like a dictatorship :sarcastic

 

[Antibush5]

Sounds nothing like a dictatorship :sarcastic

That is US policy in Iraq, so unless America is a dictatorship, your point is invalid.

 

[Buttercup]

Impossible, and if such a scenario will ever take place it will be the most totalitarian and brutal dictatorship in history, you cannot take societies which are so radically different from each other and expect them to be the citizens of the same mega state following the same social norms.

This is how I'd imagine the scenario as well. In order to have an egalitarian plan for the entire planet using the same health care standards, tax schedules, educational norms, food resources, etc.....the laws to enforce these ideas would be extremely limiting at best. I can't imagine the human race ever being altruistic enough to share to that degree.

 

[YmirGF]

The creation of a single world government would also be the dawn of WWIII.

 

[Caladan]

This is how I'd imagine the scenario as well. In order to have an egalitarian plan for the entire planet using the same health care standards, tax schedules, educational norms, food resources, etc.....the laws to enforce these ideas would be extremely limiting at best. I can't imagine the human race ever being altruistic enough to share to that degree.

I dont think its an issue of alturism. I know enough about the radical differences between different cultures to know that they cannot follow the same norms.

 

[Breathe]

That is US policy in Iraq, so unless America is a dictatorship, your point is invalid.

Even if it was, that doesn't mean your point is any more valid.