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"The Islamic Front has refused to sit with us without giving any reason," Robert Ford

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
For me the truth is reaveled , USA sponsored Bin Laden and AlQeada and Taliban to defeat Soviet Union in 90' , Now USA Sponsored and dialogue with the terrorists to defeat Bashar regime ( because he not allie to USA)

from the site

Islamist rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad's forces in Syria have rejected overtures from the United States to sit down and talk, a senior U.S. diplomat said on Wednesday.
 
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InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Personally I dont think it has to do with 'arrogance' it is to do with a couple of more salient (and dangerous) factors: firstly the fragmentation of the rebel forces makes it more difficult to obtain sufficient agreement within their ranks over certain courses of action or to exercise sufficient control over members enacting certain tactics (let alone specific actions) for the advancement of strategies to achieve outcomes and secondly the very high influence of those elements within the rebel movement that are not interested in peace (almost regardless of the terms) in particular religious fundamentalists (many but not all of whom are foreigners who go from one war zone to another).

Arrogance does not really play into it I think... instead it is a case where a more moderate movement made their bed with more fundamentalist muscle which has become increasingly more powerful in comparison to their moderate counterparts (in large part due to funding and logistics disparities). The moderate rebels would likely have been willing to go to the table... however in Syria today I am not sure the moderates among them have sufficient clout to be able to agree to ANY deal with any hope that it might be binding on their more radical members; while the more radical are generally those with a lesser view of western nations in particular the US and some EU countries and are more likely to respond to attempts to mediate by china or even (which is bizarre given the history) russia.

Its unfortunate there is so much political and social instability in the countries in the region right now... personally I think the regional nations handling this is the only way this might be resolved in a more 'peaceful' (or at least less destructive) fashion. Of course given that the rebels dont want iran involved and 'little' things like that, well it is unlikely to be an effective means of attempting to find a solution if you are not even willing to bring each of the parties to the table. Unless the rebels change their attitude I find it difficult to believe that they will have a resolution that the rebels are happy with any time soon. Sorry to say but the rebel conduct has significantly increased the chance that the regime will be the governing authority preferred by the international community, they have simply let too many whack jobs run amok - which is unfortunate given the roots of the movement.
 
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Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
For me the truth is reaveled , USA sponsored Bin Laden and AlQeada and Taliban to defeat Soviet Union in 90' , Now USA Sponsored and dialogue with the terrorists to defeat Bashar regime ( because he not allie to USA)

from the site

Islamist rebels fighting President Bashar al-Assad's forces in Syria have rejected overtures from the United States to sit down and talk, a senior U.S. diplomat said on Wednesday.
I don't think we are to be trusted based on our prievious record. I don't blame them and I don't trust them as well. Some things are beyond repair.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't think we are to be trusted based on our prievious record. I don't blame them and I don't trust them as well. Some things are beyond repair.
just for clarify
, i don't meant by USA (the citizens) , i meant of course the regime .

what you mean by "i don't blame them"
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
Premium Member
just for clarify
, i don't meant by USA (the citizens) , i meant of course the regime .

what you mean by "i don't blame them"
I don't blame them for not trusting us and not wanting to talk. They believe we are the Great Satan. Why would you talk to someone who you view as such?

Now if they wanted a dialog, I would support this.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
I don't blame them for not trusting us and not wanting to talk. They believe we are the Great Satan. Why would you talk to someone who you view as such?

Now if they wanted a dialog, I would support this.

why they thought that USA is Great Satan ?

what reasons that make want to dialog to them ?
 
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