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The Jews are unbelievers according to Quran

Saint Frankenstein

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The Quraysh tribe origins...
"The Quraysh's progenitor was Fihr ibn Malik, whose full genealogy, according to traditional Arab sources, was the following: Fihr ibn Mālik ibn al-Naḍr ibn Kināna ibn Khuzayma ibn Mudrika ibn Ilyās ibn Muḍar ibn Nizār ibn Maʿadd ibn ʿAdnān.[1] Thus, Fihr belonged to the Kinana tribe and his descent is traced to Adnan, the semi-legendary father of the "northern Arabs".[1]" - Quraysh | Wikiwand

"According to Islamic prophetic tradition, Muhammad was descended from Adnan. Tradition records the genealogy from Adnan to Muhammad comprises 21 generations." - Family tree of Muhammad | Wikiwand

Who was Adnan?

"According to tradition, Adnan is the father of a group of the Ishmaelite Arabs who inhabited West and Northern Arabia; he is a descendant of Ishmael, son of [the Jewish patriarch] Abraham. Adnan is believed by genealogists to be the father of many Ishmaelite tribes along the Western coast of Arabia, Northern Arabia and Iraq.[2][3][4][5]" - Adnan | Wikiwand
And? It's well-known that Jews and Arabs consider themselves siblings according to the Isaac/Ismael myth. Even so, Muhammed was not a Jew. The Jews and Arabs are both Semites but are not the same people.
 
And? It's well-known that Jews and Arabs consider themselves siblings according to the Isaac/Ismael myth. Even so, Muhammed was not a Jew. The Jews and Arabs are both Semites but are not the same people.
So Muhammed was descended from an ethnic Jew and was born in a Jewish Arab tribe but he was somehow not an ethnic Jew. Okay.
 

Anthem

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(47) (5:47) Let the followers of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein, and those who do not judge by what Allah has revealed are the transgressors. *77


*77). Here three judgements are issued against those who do not judge in accordance with the Law revealed by God. The first is that they are kafir (unbelievers); the second, that they are zalim (wrong-doers); and the third, that they are fasiq (transgressors). This clearly means that one who, in disregard of God's commandments and of the Laws revealed by Him, pronounces judgements according to man-made laws (whether made by himself or by others) is guilty of three major offences. First, his act amounts to rejecting the commandment of God, and this rejection is equivalent to kufr (infidelity, unbelief). Second, his act is contrary to justice, for only the laws made by God are in complete accord with the dictates of justice. Any judgement in contravention of God's injunctions amounts, therefore, to committing injustice (zulm). Third, when he enforces either his own or anyone else's law in disregard of the Laws of his Lord he steps out of the fold of subjection and obedience, and this constitutes fisq (transgression).
Kufr, zulm and fisq are essential elements in deviation from God's commandments. One finds them wherever there is deviation from the commandment of God. There is variation in the degree of deviation and hence in the degree of these three offences. Whoever passes judgement on something in opposition to an injunction of God, believing that injunction to be false, and holds either his own or anyone else's judgement to be sound, is an unbeliever (kafir), wrong-doer (zalim) and transgressor (fasiq). A man who is convinced that the injunctions of God are right but makes judgements contrary to them in practice is not an unbeliever in the sense that he ceases to remain a member of the Islamic community, but he is guilty of adulterating his faith by blending it with kufr, zulm and fisq. In the same manner, those who deviate from the injunctions of God in all matters are unbelievers, wrong-doers and transgressors. For those who are obedient in some respects and disobedient in others, the blending of faith and submission to God with the opposite attributes of unbelief, wrong-doing and transgression in their lives will be exactly in proportion to the mixture of their obedience to and their deviation from God's commands.
Some commentators have attempted to restrict the application of these verses to the People of the Book alone. The verses, however, hardly lend themselves to such a restrictive interpretation. The best answer to such a restrictive interpretation has been given by the Companion Hudhayfah. When someone told him that these verses related merely to the Israelites, meaning that the unbelievers, wrong-doers and transgressors were only the Jews who passed judgement contrary to the injunctions revealed by God, Hudhayfah remarked: 'What good brothers these Israelites are to you! Whatever is bitter goes to them; whatever is sweet comes to you. Nay, by God, you will follow their way, your steps following theirs.'

Holy Quran explication - Tafheem Al-Quran - Sura:Al-Maaida - aya:47


The translation of the word kafir as infidel is a grave error. The word infidel means someone who does not believe in God. The Qur’an does not allege that Jews and Christians do not believe in God. On the contrary the Qur’an refers to Jews and Christians respectfully as “People of the Book” and says:

“And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict wrong (and injury): but say, “We believe in the revelation which has come down to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is one; and it is to Him we bow (in Islam).”

[Al-Qur’an 29:46]...............

https://www.whyislam.org/islam/whatiskafir/
 

Niblo

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Can a person be sent to hell and be loved by Allah at the same time?

"It is narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) observed: By Him in Whose hand is the life of Muhammad, he who amongst the community of Jews or Christians hears about me, but does not affirm his belief in that with which I have been sent and dies in this state (of disbelief), he shall be but one of the denizens of Hell-Fire. (Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0284)"

This was your original claim: 'The Jews are unbelievers according to Quran.' (My emphasis).

Please help me out here: Where in the Qur'an will I find this ḥādīth?
 

Anthem

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This was your original claim: 'The Jews are unbelievers according to Quran.' (My emphasis).

Please help me out here: Where in the Qur'an will I find this ḥādīth?
It is supposedly in verses 47,48, 50 according to the interpretation of Abdullah Yusuf Ali.
 

Anthem

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44. It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah.s will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah.s book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.

45. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.

47. Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel
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Niblo

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44. It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah.s will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah.s book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.

45. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose or nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself. And if any fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (No better than) wrong-doers.

46. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.

47. Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel
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5. The Table, The Table Spread

Thank you.

This is from the translation by Profession M.A.S. Abdel Haleem:

‘But why do they come to you for judgement when they have the Torah with God’s judgement, and even then still turn away? These are not believers. ‘We revealed the Torah with guidance and light, and the prophets, who had submitted to God, judged according to it for the Jews. So did the rabbis and the scholars in accordance with that part of God’s Scripture which they were entrusted to preserve, and to which they were witnesses. So (rabbis and scholars) do not fear people, fear Me; do not barter away My messages for a small price; those who do not judge according to what God has sent down are rejecting (God’s teachings).’ (Al-Ma’ida: 43-44; from ‘The Qur’an’).

Seyyed Hossein Nasr writes:

'The opening question in v. 43 suggests the disingenuousness of the Madinan Jews in seeking the Prophet’s judgment on a matter already clearly decreed in their own scriptures, and that they were merely seeking a more lenient ruling than the one they had been given. This verse, then, along with vv. 44 – 47, indicates that the Torah and the Gospel remain valid sources of moral and legal judgment and guidance for Jews and Christians, respectively, even after the coming of the Prophet – even in his presence.’ (‘The Study Quran: A New Translation and Commentary).

The Madinan Jews were guilty of a form of unbelief know as ‘Kufr al-juhud’: the denial of an obvious truth, of a teaching (or ruling) one accept to be true. All believers – Jews, Christians and Muslims – are susceptible to this form of unbelief.

For example: I am the only Muslim in my UK family. I attend a family wedding, and during the course of the wedding breakfast am offered a glass of champagne to ‘toast the happy couple’. I know perfectly well that alcohol is forbidden in Islam; and I accept the validity of that law. Nevertheless, I drink the champagne anyway, arguing that this must surely be an exception…..family affair, and all that. God won’t mind this time. This is ‘kufr al-juhud’.

While drinking that champagne I am an 'unbeliever'. But this, of itself, does not make me a non-Muslim, just a sinful one. The very same would apply if I were a Jew.

Al-Ma’ida: 44 does not condemn all Jews; just those few who sought to avoid their own Laws; who turned their backs on the Torah.

Judaism is faithful to the Torah, and to the Laws of HaShem. Jews who are faithful to their religion are not unbelievers. The Qur'an honours such people....calling them the best of creation:

‘Those who believe, and do good deeds, are the best of creation. Their reward with their Lord is everlasting Gardens graced with flowing streams, where they will stay forever. Allāh is well pleased with them and they with Him. All this is for those who stand in awe of their Lord.’ (Al-Bayyina: 7-8)......(see my first post).
 
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