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The Keepers

Deidre

Well-Known Member
So, I've watched about three episodes of this mini-series/documentary on Netflix called ''The Keepers,'' and it's just beyond mind blowing how so many priests 40+ years ago got away with abusing so many kids. The Keepers is about a school where the head priest was abusing the girls that went to school there, and how one of the nuns who taught there, eventually knew what was going on. She then ends up murdered. From what I've read about the Catholic Church and its history of clergy sexual abuse cover ups, it seems like only a few priests are ever charged with a crime, and sent to prison. it seems like back in the 60's and 70's according to the interviews from The Keepers, priests were considered god-like themselves and in this series, one of the women who was abused was recounting how she knew what was happening was wrong, but she didn't know how to stop it. I understand that victims of sexual abuse are afraid to come forward when it's happening, but others knew. Why didn't they do anything? Bishops just moved these psychopaths to new churches, to continue the abuse. Never once reporting it to the police.And this isn't the only Diocese where this type of abuse went on.

Anyway, it's an interesting documentary. Not sure I'm going to finish watching it, because I googled what happened to these priests, and there was no justice for all these abused victims. :(

But, I believe that the priest in question somehow, had that nun murdered. Coincidentally, his brother was high up in the police department. Hmmm....

So, were people like dumber back then? How can so many people other than the victims and the perpetrators know about these atrocities, and DO NOTHING? Tell no one? These priests should have been in prison, along with the Bishops and any other sociopaths who covered these crimes up! :mad:
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
No, people weren't dumber. It's a fallout of having too much institutional power. Priests weren't really questioned by the faithful then and the hierarchy didn't really care about the complaints against them.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I think the churchgoers refuse to believe any of it, and go on like nothing happened. But what about the police. Certainly the victims could report the crime to the police. Why do they need to rely on the church to do its own policing?
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
I think the churchgoers refuse to believe any of it, and go on like nothing happened. But what about the police. Certainly the victims could report the crime to the police. Why do they need to rely on the church to do its own policing?
Um, many of the victims were pre-teens. They're afraid, they're kids and the priests were often telling them that they'd hurt them if they told anyone. The Church should be doing the policing of their own clergy who were abusing kids.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
No, people weren't dumber. It's a fallout of having too much institutional power. Priests weren't really questioned by the faithful then and the hierarchy didn't really care about the complaints against them.
That's a very interesting point. So do you think that the RCC today has lost its power? I think it has, not because of this, but seems like people are not waking up to the abuses within organized religions.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
That's a very interesting point. So do you think that the RCC today has lost its power? I think it has, not because of this, but seems like people are not waking up to the abuses within organized religions.
The Church's stance in society has been declining for awhile. People don't tend to put priests up on a pedestal as they used to.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Um, many of the victims were pre-teens. They're afraid, they're kids and the priests were often telling them that they'd hurt them if they told anyone. The Church should be doing the policing of their own clergy who were abusing kids.

True, the church should be policing, but when it doesn't where are the police? The kids tell the parents and the parents could call the police, the priest is arrested and goes to court to be tried by a jury. That never happens though, does it? Does the Catholic church still have immunity from the authorities like it once did? In old movies like Joan of Arc or the Hunchback of Notre Dame the church was a sanctuary and no police could arrest anyone there.
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
I hope and pray Pope Francis does whatever is needed to end the cover ups and get the guilty priests in prison where they belong.

In the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

The LORD most assuredly does not condone such behavior by the Church.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
True, the church should be policing, but when it doesn't where are the police? The kids tell the parents and the parents could call the police, the priest is arrested and goes to court to be tried by a jury. That never happens though, does it? Does the Catholic church still have immunity from the authorities like it once did? In old movies like Joan of Arc or the Hunchback of Notre Dame the church was a sanctuary and no police could arrest anyone there.
I think what has often happened with these cases, is that the kids were not telling their parents, because from what I could tell with this series I watched and the interviews of real people, the parents were part of the problem. Many of the kids came from volatile homes, where there was already abuse and neglect going on, and so the kids may have thought no one would care. And again, many abusers tell their victims, especially children, that if they tell anyone, they'll hurt them. It's just so sad. :(

The RCC isn't above the law, but I guess back 50 years or so ago, it was treated like they were. Kinda scary that a religious organization had that much power and influence.
 
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