The male curse

[Spiderman]

So, as a kid I spent ten months at a foster home where they raised cattle. If they didn't castrate the males, they would become these accursed fiendish monsters imo, smell a female in heat and tear down fences, charge through electric fences (oblivious to the painful shocks) to get laid...it didn't matter if it was their own mother...

I lived in Montana many years ago, and the female bears would not have sex with the male bears if they had cubs, so the male grizzly bears would sometimes find a way to kill the cubs so that they could get laid. That's why hunters were encouraged to go out and shoot the males.

As I've said, I raised rodents to feed to snakes, and you keep one stud and kill the rest of the males or they kill each other and kill their babies and practice cannibalism...then they go around humping whatever they please and sometimes it appears to be obvious rape where the female is chased throughout the cage and restrained and squealing in agony...

I know they can't help themselves and have no moral compass or compassion, but we are animals too, and sometimes have those passions as well.

It certainly makes sense why someone would be a lesbian and quite repulsed by the male gender on average...it just seems like there is something quite maddening about it all, at least seen in many creatures...sometimes even seen in homo-sapiens...

Makes me wonder, if there is a hell, perhaps you have a decreased likelihood of going there (as a male) if you are castrated?

At least with some creatures, uncastrated males can become unruly, dangerous, and impossible troublemakers to deal with.

Then it seems like with homosapiens... rapists, pedophiles, serial killers, psychopaths, murderers, school-shooters, bank-robbers, burglars, terrorists, military Dictators, are usually male, but there are exceptions to any rule...

I call it "the male curse", cuz there seems to be various afflictions that are far more likely to be seen in the behavior of uncastrated males of many species of animals...would you agree?

 

[SomeRandom]

This presumes all males of all species are controlled exclusively by instinct. Whilst this is certainly more prevalent in non human animals, you forget that there are still paternal instincts to take into consideration. Males and females need to propagate in the wild. Natural and sexual selection pressures are near omnipresent and the name of the game is progeny. To pass on one's genes, to gain control of populations and to ensure the survivability of the species in question is quite the forefront of their existence, as it were. This is not cruelty, nor is it something to lament over. It is simply nature being nature. A male kills offspring to ensure there is no competition for his own progeny. A male has sex because the female is in heat, the only concept of consent is when the female gives up. In some species the female can and will kill a male because of size differences. In some species a female will fend off a male. In some species the male is the primary caregiver. In some species both the males and females take care of the young, sometimes even same sex parenting occurs, with two males caring for the offspring. This is not some black and white tale of misery or morality. It's real life, with complications, nuance and messy implications. To bush males aside as just sex crazed misery causing wastes of space is simplistic and quite frankly perpetuates both horrendous sexual stereotypes and toxic masculinity.

Also I'm pretty sure lesbianism isn't caused by repulsion towards males, I mean that's a bad stereotype to feed into.

 

[Spiderman]

This presumes all males of all species are controlled exclusively by instinct. Whilst this is certainly more prevalent in non human animals, you forget that there are still paternal instincts to take into consideration. Males and females need to propagate in the wild. Natural and sexual selection pressures are near omnipresent and the name of the game is progeny. To pass on one's genes, to gain control of populations and to ensure the survivability of the species in question is quite the forefront of their existence, as it were. This is not cruelty, nor is it something to lament over. It is simply nature being nature. A male kills offspring to ensure there is no competition for his own progeny. A male has sex because the female is in heat, the only concept of consent is when the female gives up. In some species the female can and will kill a male because of size differences. In some species a female will fend off a male. In some species the male is the primary caregiver. In some species both the males and females take care of the young, sometimes even same sex parenting occurs, with two males caring for the offspring. This is not some black and white tale of misery or morality. It's real life, with complications, nuance and messy implications. To bush males aside as just sex crazed misery causing wastes of space is simplistic and quite frankly perpetuates both horrendous sexual stereotypes and toxic masculinity.

Also I'm pretty sure lesbianism isn't caused by repulsion towards males, I mean that's a bad stereotype to feed into.

As you probably know, I keep tarantulas and practically worship them...yes, the female often kills the male after sex...there are exceptions to every rule...

But I have seen some out of control behavior primarily seen in males of multiple species...It has been deeply disturbing to witness...

 

[SomeRandom]

As you probably know, I keep tarantulas and practically worship them...yes, the female often kills the male after sex...there are exceptions to every rule...

But I have seen some out of control behavior primarily seen in males of multiple species...It has been deeply disturbing to witness...

Perhaps you should watch more documentaries. There was one on Meerkats a few years back that was pretty cool. The males were often the gallant protective fatherly types. Though it was still harsh goings.

 

[Spiderman]

Perhaps you should watch more documentaries. There was one on Meerkats a few years back that was pretty cool. The males were often the gallant protective fatherly types. Though it was still harsh goings.

That is encouraging...being a male, it is nice to see exceptions...Being in prison and being sexually assaulted and having perverts come on to me didn't help...

Ironically though, the only time I was raped, it was by a BIG woman... She kept coming onto me and I found her annoying, unattractive, and repugnant, so she got me so drunk and stoned I could barely move, then laid me down and had her way with me...

I certainly never want to meet her again, but if it was a guy that raped me, I'd be scarred for life...a woman rapes me and I wake up giggling with an interesting story to share with family and friends...

Guys are more threatening to me...Typically, physical aggression and injuries were from males...hence...some of the reason for the double standard...

 

[Sunstone]

While I think there could be some truth to what you say, most of what you say strikes me as stereotyping males.

 

[Spiderman]

While I think there could be some truth to what you say, most of what you say strikes me as stereotyping males.

Okay,
There are many exceptions to consider...

I've just seen some horrifying behaviors...

(I also lived near a buffalo farm near a Carmelite convent I worked at, and uncastrated male buffalos were dangerous, ferocious, lethal monsters...)

 

[crossfire]

If you are overcome by passion to the point you hurt yourself and others, aren't you already in hell? (At least from my Buddhist perspective.)

 

[crossfire]

Matthew 5:27-30

27 “You have heard that it was said, Do not commit adultery. 28 But I tell you, everyone who looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of the parts of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of the parts of your body than for your whole body to go into hell!​

Matthew 18:8-9 specifically mentions hellfire:

8 If your hand or your foot causes your downfall, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life maimed or lame, than to have two hands or two feet and be thrown into the eternal fire. 9 And if your eye causes your downfall, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to enter life with one eye, rather than to have two eyes and be thrown into hellfire!​

Methinks this refers to the sense desire, and not the offending body part, as it prefaces with "adultery begins in the heart." (Compare to Buddha's Fire Sermon)

 

[Spiderman]

While I think there could be some truth to what you say, most of what you say strikes me as stereotyping males.

Do you have much experience with uncastrated male cattle?

They are a friggin nightmare!... but quite well behaved and manageable when you remove their junk!

 

[SomeRandom]

That is encouraging...being a male, it is nice to see exceptions...Being in prison and being sexually assaulted and having perverts come on to me didn't help...

Ironically though, the only time I was raped, it was by a BIG woman... She kept coming onto me and I found her annoying, unattractive, and repugnant, so she got me so drunk and stoned I could barely move, then laid me down and had her way with me...

I certainly never want to meet her again, but if it was a guy that raped me, I'd be scarred for life...a woman rapes me and I wake up giggling with an interesting story to share with family and friends...

Guys are more threatening to me...Typically, physical aggression and injuries were from males...hence...some of the reason for the double standard...

You sound stuck in a toxic masculinity cycle built by admittedly awful experiences and sexist stereotypes. Mind you I'm not fond of the whole "toxic masculinity" thing as a whole myself and I don't mean to sound like I'm judging or diagnosing you. Merely an observation. But still. You admit to seeing a woman raping you as something to boast about, to laugh off and tell your friends and family. But is that a defense mechanism and would you legitimately not be scarred by such an experience? I dunno. Maybe, maybe not. But it's still a pretty toxic cycle to perpetuate. That a man being raped by a woman is not real rape, that it's sexual prowess, that it's funny or something to share. I don't really think that's a reality for victims though.
Reality rarely fits into our preconceived notions and it does not care about the stereotypes we build in our societies.

 

[Revoltingest]

Okay,
There are many exceptions to consider...

I've just seen some horrifying behaviors...

(I also lived near a buffalo farm near a Carmelite convent I worked at, and uncastrated male buffalos were dangerous, ferocious, lethal monsters...)

You need to hang around with better quality males.

 

[Spiderman]

You sound stuck in a toxic masculinity cycle built by admittedly awful experiences and sexist stereotypes. Mind you I'm not fond of the whole "toxic masculinity" thing as a whole myself and I don't mean to sound like I'm judging or diagnosing you. Merely an observation. But still. You admit to seeing a woman raping you as something to boast about, to laugh off and tell your friends and family. But is that a defense mechanism and would you legitimately not be scarred by such an experience? I dunno. Maybe, maybe not. But it's still a pretty toxic cycle to perpetuate. That a man being raped by a woman is not real rape, that it's sexual prowess, that it's funny or something to share. I don't really think that's a reality for victims though.
Reality rarely fits into our preconceived notions and it does not care about the stereotypes we build in our societies.

Well...when a woman rapes a guy...it is quite bizzare...cuz she has to, ehem...play with him...till he gets...umm...excited!

I just know if a guy did that to me, Id never recover and without hesitation, would prefer that he killed me afterwards...or before (even better).

I've had guys molest me and it really is disturbing...so, could not imagine what rape would be like from one...

Anyhow, lol, You certainly defend some deviant behavior... like sanctioning the practice of a dying wife consenting to her husband keeping her corpse to bond with after death...

Lol...I feel ya!

But to defend disturbing behavior, even when it comes from an animal that knows no bounds or better, doesn't make the behavior suddenly not a deplorable act!

 

[lewisnotmiller]

If you are overcome by passion to the point you hurt yourself and others, aren't you already in hell? (At least from my Buddhist perspective.)

It's a stretch in terms of degrees and terminology, but I see things a bit the same way.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Okay,
There are many exceptions to consider...

I've just seen some horrifying behaviors

I've seen and experienced some horrifying things from white males. Shall I include you in a generalization based on my experiences?

 

[Spiderman]

Anyone seen @SomeRandom?

Not sure what it is with you always being the first to rebuke me when I glorify your female gender

Yes, not all lesbians are disgusted with men...but were I female, id be lesbian, I'd be a bit sickened by what I've seen...well, I am sickened... and indeed, I've met lesbians, who think boys are gross... and some have been abused by men...

Met them a lot in crisis centers, psyche wards, group homes, school, and online...but know not all are like that

 

[Spiderman]

I've seen and experienced some horrifying things from white males. Shall I include you in a generalization based on my experiences?

I've screwd up a lot... can't deny having poor judgement and many regrets...

 

[Spiderman]

I've seen and experienced some horrifying things from white males. Shall I include you in a generalization based on my experiences?

Please put me on ignore...

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I've screwd up a lot... can't deny having poor judgement and many regrets...

Why should I ignore you? You're making generalizations and are displaying a destructive mentality. I think its healthy that you know what you're doing is not helping your situation. You see, others here can coddle and sugar coat how they respond to you. See me, no. What you don't understand is I come from an era of the old school. I'd rather someone tell me I'm messing up then smile in my face and watch me destroy myself like what others here are doing. You see, others here watch you self destruct with your posts because nobody has the guts to say what I'm saying. You need help and you cannot get help on these forums. When you make posts that are random and bizarre that puts people off like myself. You really need to check yourself. If you lived in Cali I'd personally help you free of charge.

BTW if I didn't care I would not say this....The fact that others here didn't have the guts to tell you this shows you how much people care.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I'm sorry if I sound harsh I grew up in a cold environment where people smile in your face and watch you crash and burn without warning you.