Underhill
Well-Known Member
I agree. Being that his current approval is in the 30's, I can live with that. Although I still struggle to see how it is even that high.
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I agree. Being that his current approval is in the 30's, I can live with that. Although I still struggle to see how it is even that high.
I'll be honest and straight forward: I don't know. I am simply basing my prediction (and that is all that it is, really) on what has happened so far. I can see some EO's coming down the pipe maybe?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The TSA is perhaps the absolute worst example possible of regulations that benefit people. However, the TSA does happen to be a prime example of a government agency that needs to go, or at least overhauled from the ground up to be far less personally invasive with not one single person being groped or looked at through a clothes xray device, and leave people be to carry enough mouth wash to last a vacation, not just the weekend, and actually for once catch what "secret passengers" are carrying.
Blame the people in charge at the time. They've been planning this for many years and have done their best to sabotage it. Now it is TrumpCare, like it or not.
Tom
esmith
Veteran Member
Yeah I vaguely remember some leftist community organizer using them.
Again who will you blame if nothing is done? Which I expect will be what happens.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Do you really believe RW media telling you that the ACA will explode? Haha. Tick-tock, seems to only be getting better after many years. Just the opposite of what RW media is telling you.
If the ACA wasn't doing well, then there would have been a vote on the replacement.
Trump and Ryan and the Republican Congressman who just made it clear that they don't have a better plan.
Tom
esmith
Veteran Member
True that the Republican Congress couldn't get their act together on either fixing or replacing the ACA; however it seems that the Democrats weren't interested in discussing the issue either. So guess those that are affected by the ACA will have to just live with the high cost of the ACA.
I guess what will have to happen is when the cost of the ACA gets to the point that it doesn't pay to have coverage under the ACA then maybe the two sides will put apart their differences and try to fix it, which I don't think is possible, or try and come up with something different. But I can almost guarantee you that it will not be a single-payer system as long as the Republicans have control of either or both houses of Congress.
As far as @tytlyf statement that it is getting better every year, I don't know whom he is conversing with. Maybe he can enlighten us why he thinks that way with the premiums, and deductibles going up and many areas of the country losing providers. Then again maybe he can't
There is a lot of finger pointing between the two parties but this will be my major voting point during the midterms. I want congressmen and senators who are willing to fix the problem and stop making decisions on pride.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I think some of the town hall meeting, whereas many spoke up about the ACA saving people's lives, may have had an influence on at least some of the more moderate Republicans. Trumpcare had an approval rating of 17% in a poll taken a couple of weeks ago, which is only slightly higher than hemorrhoids and head lice.
OTOH, some on the far right seriously don't seem to think that saving American lives is altogether that important because the right-wing "cause", typically dealing with $, is far more important.
OTOH, some on the far right seriously don't seem to think that saving American lives is altogether that important because the right-wing "cause", typically dealing with $, is far more important.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No, but if they don't get their **** together they won't hold either in just under two years. And with Trump wanting to try to conquer one monumental mountain after failing to have conquered another monumental mountain, if things keep going 2020 should be a very good year for the Dems. Especially if they campaign not on everyone having access to healthcare, but on everyone having health care. Of course that's still some time off, but things aren't looking good for Reps when town hall meetings turn into acid-laden criticism from fire-spewing constituents and can't be relied on as the safe place they have provided Republicans lately.
I think we can all agree that we hope for action. I just don't want the Repubbies to get upset and not try again. I they are willing to compromise and bring in some of the ideas from the left, I think there is a great opportunity for bipartisan action we can all benefit from. But, I am a bit naive when it comes to this stuff.
esmith
Veteran Member
Only time will tell. However, with the greater and greater divide between the two dominate parties I do not hold much hope. In my opinion the only thing that will bring the two parties together is basically a national emergency with the healthcare system and if the ACA continues with the present problems that time may be very close. At least one may hope, I'm not asking for a national emergence but all sides coming together and straighten the mess out.
You and me both, but the political climate is so polarized right now that I think you are right to be skeptical (putting it lightly). Guess we will have to buckle in and see what happens.
tytlyf
Not Religious
Republicans killed the bill they've been working on for 7 years. Stop blaming democrats. There's a reason there was no vote, because conservatives like the ACA. The pulling of the bill showed that republicans would be kicked out of office if they had voted on it
That sounds exactly like what Obama and Clinton were advocating for years and years.
Were you arguing for that 6-7 years ago or are you being extremely hypocritical about it?
Tom
tytlyf
Not Religious
I just don't understand why people continue to vote for republican politicians. For the past 8 years they've had the worst approval ratings in history IIRC. Then the election comes along and conservatives vote more of the problem people back in? What sort of different result were you expecting electing the same people back into office?
Conservatives voted to keep the swamp "as-is."
This whole debacle was partly created by their vote.
Conservatives voted to keep the swamp "as-is."
This whole debacle was partly created by their vote.
esmith
Veteran Member
That has nothing to do with your statement "Do you really believe RW media telling you that the ACA will explode? Haha. Tick-tock, seems to only be getting better after many years. Just the opposite of what RW media is telling you.