The Mind Of Jesus

[Jimmy]

Yes you do have that right. However, I will remind you again that this is a debate section. People have a right to question and expect answers. Answers are something that you seem very short of.
And I did answer your question, "not at all". Reality getting missed yet again, Kingy.

So what would you like answered?

 

[Jimmy]

Why would anyone other than you think those things?

What evidence is there that anyone else thinks that?

It completely contradicts the core beliefs of the Christian faith

If the Earth began in 1980 then Christianity would be false and make zero sense as that would mean that literally nothing mentioned in the bible actually happened

I think you are mistaken and haven't really thought this through

You are basically saying that Christians believe that the ministry of Jesus Christ never happened (as per the gospels)

No evidence, only my beliefs and what I think to be true.

 

[Eddi]

No evidence, only my beliefs and what I think to be true.

You are of course entitled to believe whatever you want

But the belief that any Christian believes the world began in 1980 is I am certain totally wrong

This is an empirical matter and not a matter of personal belief, come up with some evidence and that would be something else and I will take that claim seriously

 

[rocala]

But the belief that any Christian believes the world began in 1980 is I am certain totally wrong

Yes I second that.

I am not a Christian by the normal standards, my position was outlined here earlier. I have known many sincere Christians throughout my life, so I am more than a little irritated when somebody comes along to "humbly" announce that they were not only liars but were lying about a belief that was dear to them and then can not even be bothered to try and defend the position that he takes.

 

[Jimmy]

Yes I second that.

I am not a Christian by the normal standards, my position was outlined here earlier. I have known many sincere Christians throughout my life, so I am more than a little irritated when somebody comes along to "humbly" announce that they were not only liars but were lying about a belief that was dear to them and then can not even be bothered to try and defend the position that he takes.

No one has asked me to defend it here but since you’re asking, I will oblige. Most Christians believe that Christ is going to return with a new earth. That’s pretty heavy duty stuff. Personally, I don’t think they’re referring to a man who was crucified 2000 years ago. I personally believe they’re referring to a man who is living on earth today.

 

[Eddi]

I am not a Christian by the normal standards,

Neither am I

I am more than a little irritated when somebody comes along to "humbly" announce that they were not only liars but were lying about a belief that was dear to them

Also, that would require a massive conspiracy involving many hundreds of millions of people to all be in on it

It makes zero sense

 

[Jimmy]

Neither am I

Also, that would require a massive conspiracy involving many hundreds of millions of people to all be in on it

It makes zero sense

Personally, I think that no one‘s gonna come out and say it because it’s a cuckoo idea. No one wants to be looked upon as an enabler to Messiah complex in my opinion.

 

[Eddi]

Personally, I think that n Id o one‘s gonna come out and say it because it’s a cuckoo idea. No one wants to be looked upon as an enabler to Messiah complex in my opinion.

How would the idea that the world came to be in 1980 spread across Christians in private, with no one else finding out?

I mean, do they meet in private after communion and discuss how their bible is a lie because the world began in 1980?

You are claiming that Christianity has secret teachings

I think that's a wild conspiracy theory

 

[rocala]

No one has asked me to defend it

We don[t need to, it is a debate section - how many times do you have to be told this?

Personally, I don’t think they’re referring to a man who was crucified 2000 years ago.

Obviously, according to you 2,000 years ago does not exist, or did you forget that too?

End of conversation for me.

 

[Jimmy]

We don[t need to, it is a debate section - how many times do you have to be told this?


Obviously, according to you 2,000 years ago does not exist, or did you forget that too?

End of conversation for me.

Yes that belief only reinforces that idea.

 

[Jimmy]

We don[t need to, it is a debate section - how many times do you have to be told this?


Obviously, according to you 2,000 years ago does not exist, or did you forget that too?

End of conversation for me.

Oh, I usually defend my side of it. Oh, and by the way, what you were asking me to defend wasn’t even the topic of this OP in the first place.

 

[Jimmy]

How would the idea that the world came to be in 1980 spread across Christians in private, with no one else finding out?

I mean, do they meet in private after communion and discuss how their bible is a lie because the world began in 1980?

You are claiming that Christianity has secret teachings

I think that's a wild conspiracy theory

I never said that they would believe things start in 1980. I’m sure the time of the belief when existence would begin would vary to some degree among people.

 

[Eddi]

I never said that they would believe things start in 1980. I’m sure the time would vary to some degree among people.

I'm pretty sure that any Christian who believes Christ is secretly on Earth is in a tiny minority

If I remember correctly the consensus is that his return will be a huge public event that nobody will miss and that he will come down from Heaven in the form of a man rather than being born secretly on Earth and growing up down here

But you do you

I like that you have your own personal beliefs and have obviously been thinking for yourself which I think is good

 

[Jimmy]

Yes I second that.

I am not a Christian by the normal standards, my position was outlined here earlier. I have known many sincere Christians throughout my life, so I am more than a little irritated when somebody comes along to "humbly" announce that they were not only liars but were lying about a belief that was dear to them and then can not even be bothered to try and defend the position that he takes.

Many people on here are constantly equating the belief in Jesus as the same thing as believing in fairies and leprechauns and I don’t see you getting more than a little irritated. I’ve said on here many times that religions, Christianity inluded, is great for introducing us to spirituality. I’ve pointed out the similarities between what I believe and what Jesus represents. I’ve said that Christianity is the closest of the religions to what I believe. Furthermore, when I said I believe that Christian’s think that Jesus is on earth in the flesh now, I never said it was bad and that they should leave the church. Hell, I’m gonna go to church next week. It’ll be the first time since I was a young boy. It’s all good.