The Monopoly of Religious Believers

[monti]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

 

[Quintessence]

We do? Since when?

 

[Sees]

Some people tend to dislike, hate, resent others based on differences of race, religion, nationality, etc.

Some are taught/believe people are bad, sinful, hopeless without the grace and guidance of their God which is bestowed upon believers.

 

[LuisDantas]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

To be fair, those are not a sizeable percentage of believers. It just turns out that they can be bothersome for various reasons.

As for why, I can only guess. Some of them seem to have sorely underdeveloped morality and sincerely believe that only fear of punishment keeps them somewhat functional. A few seem to actually believe that there is no other reason to even attempt to be moral at all. I feel sorry for them.

Maybe many others simply don't like to deal with motivations and perspectives that they are not familiar with. I'm just guessing really.

 

[Revoltingest]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

The faithful who believe they have a monopoly on benevolence
are like the atheists who think they have a monopoly on logic.
Some people just be too full'o themselves.

 

[Levite]

We do? Since when?

Yeah, when did this happen?

 

[monti]

Some of them seem to have sorely underdeveloped morality .... A few seem to actually believe that there is no other reason to even attempt to be moral at all. I feel sorry for them.

Maybe many others simply don't like to deal with motivations and perspectives that they are not familiar with. I'm just guessing really.

Yes indeed, it seems to me at times that without religion the believer is somewhat incapable of taking responsibility for themselves and off loading it on one God or another.

 

[LuisDantas]

Come to think of it, that is an important religious skill that isn't often enough acquired: to recognize morality when it happens without explicit religious trappings.

Not only for dealing with non-believers, but also with dissenters of many kinds, including and foremost split sects.

 

[Quintessence]

Yes indeed, it seems to me at times that without religion the believer is somewhat incapable of taking responsibility for themselves and off loading it on one God or another.

Again... really? Since when?

EDIT: Ironically - and I suspect this is wholly unintentional on your part - if this was true, than this makes a very strong case against atheism. What you suggest means any person who converts from theism to atheism suddenly becomes an irresponsible prick. Except this isn't what we see, so there must be something a touch wrong here, yes?

 

[monti]

Again... really? Since when?

What you suggest means any person who converts from theism to atheism suddenly becomes an irresponsible prick.

No, not at all. What I mean is that religious believers (those who have a god) believe they some how have the monopoly on benevolence and don't seem to even believe that someone who is an atheist has any moral standing or ethics on how to behave towards others or conduct themselves in an ethical manner without a god. Example; anyone who disbelieves is an infidel or Goy an unclean heathen etc , and doesn't deserve life.

I have said, believers will conduct themselves and act as thier religion demands them to act. But a none believer could do exactly the same without a god.

But putting the shoe on the other foot, there are things demanded of religion that an atheist simply would not do. Example: genital mutilation of infants of children, executing homosexuals, stoning women and refusal of blood transfusion.

"Jehovah's Witness whose wife died after refusing blood transfusion is jailed for 13 years over child sex abuse covered up by religion's elders".




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...child-sex-abuse-covered-religions-elders.html

 

[steeltoes]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

Because it's true. Everyone out there is an a hole except me.

 

[LuisDantas]

But putting the shoe on the other foot, there are things demanded of religion that an atheist simply would not do. Example: genital mutilation of infants of children, executing homosexuals, stoning women and refusal of blood transfusion.

Now, that is neither fair nor entirely true.

I consider those challenges that a religious person must learn to overcome. To dare to be a bit better than his path actually expects him to be.

 

[monti]

Now, that is neither fair nor entirely true.

So none of this this true:

Jehovah's Witness whose wife died after refusing blood transfusion is jailed for 13 years over child sex abuse covered up by religion's elders.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ns-elders.html

MPs launch major inquiry into female genital mutilation to 'get to the truth' about no-one has ever been charged.

MPs launch major inquiry into female genital mutilation | Mail Online

Girl 'is stoned to death by Syrian fundamentalists for having a FACEBOOK account'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-fundamentalists-having-FACEBOOK-account.html

Iran executes three men on homosexuality charges

Iran executes three men on homosexuality charges | World news | The Guardian

All these punishment are religion based.

 

[LuisDantas]

I said it was not entirely true, not that none of it was.

Being an atheist is no warranty against poor judgement, although I suppose it helps a bit against those specific traps.

 

[monti]

I said it was not entirely true, not that none of it was.

Being an atheist is no warranty against poor judgement, although I suppose it helps a bit against those specific traps.

My point is that those who follow their gods dictates WILL do these abhorrent things.
I contend that an atheist would not do those things.

 

[nazz]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

I don't.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Why is it that the religious believer believes they have the monopoly on being the only people who can be kind and benevolent to others?

Well you know. Some folks just gotta bang it into peoples heads.

 

[LuisDantas]

My point is that those who follow their gods dictates WILL do these abhorrent things.
I contend that an atheist would not do those things.

Which, as I said, is neither fair nor entirely true.

People may be tempted or pressured into making mistakes, but it is not that much of a given.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

This OP

 

[monti]

Which, as I said, is neither fair nor entirely true.

People may be tempted or pressured into making mistakes, but it is not that much of a given.

Not because of a dictate by a God though, eh.