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The Most Agreeable Religion

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
:musicnotes: Mock Turtlism is the answer - Do not be a silly chancer - Mock Turtlism is the best - Mock Turtlism beats the rest :musicnotes: :turtle: :pileofpoop:
 

Hermit Philosopher

Selflessly here for you
I’d vote for a religion that does not seek power, deals with our spiritual affairs and leaves our worldly ones (politics, for example) to the world.

Otherwise, I’d go for secularism.
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
The world has to unite. There can only be one religion. You are locked in with religious people from all faiths and denominations and you're not allowed to leave before you agreed on The One Religion™.
(Well, you can leave early if you agree to accept the result the others will settle on.)

What religion do you favour?

What do you think, which religion will make it?
I'm not changing my beliefs because someone says to.
 

TiredOfTuesdays

New Member
The world has to unite. There can only be one religion. You are locked in with religious people from all faiths and denominations and you're not allowed to leave before you agreed on The One Religion™.
(Well, you can leave early if you agree to accept the result the others will settle on.)

What religion do you favour?

What do you think, which religion will make it?

my vote goes to Buffalo Wild Wings


Buffalo Wild Wings Religion Number 1.

I mean think about it if we all worship Buffalo wild wings the world would be a much better place. Imagine whenever there’s a sporting event we all came together to eat wings, drink our favorite beverages, hang and scream our lungs out, now it’s mandatory lol. Weather it be a missed important field goal that decided the game, or losing your virginity inside A public rest room stall. Buffalo wild wings is what will ultimately bring people together.

Hey, I know what side I’m on.....

Jokes and memes aside from a person who has studied many religions, being born into an atheist family, in all seriousness, rationalist Islam is the answer.

From my studies I’ve concluded that the Koran and the legitimized Hadiths of the Prophet Muhammad (BBHN) provide a logical conclusion on combating nihilism and the problems of subjective morality and ethics.

The telling of history of both works is archaeologically backed.

Brother and Sister hood is heavily emphasized, generosity is a defining trait of a pious Muslim’s character, Yet private property and Individualism are compatible within it.

Its the most forgiving and merciful of the Abrahamic religion for its followers.

so yeah in seriousness my votes for Islam though
 

mangalavara

नमस्कार
Premium Member
Buffalo wild wings is what will ultimately bring people together.

I think I’ll unite with the crowd that prefers Panda Express or Panera. :pandaface:

in all seriousness, rationalist Islam is the answer.

How about folk Islam?

From my studies I’ve concluded that the Koran and the legitimized Hadiths of the Prophet Muhammad (BBHN) provide a logical conclusion on combating nihilism and the problems of subjective morality and ethics.

From my perspective, Hinduism defeats nihilism and subjective morality very easily. Nonetheless, it features pluralist ethics for a society with organic unity.

Brother and Sister hood is heavily emphasized, generosity is a defining trait of a pious Muslim’s character, Yet private property and Individualism are compatible within it.

Hinduism celebrates the bond between sister and brother. As well, it teaches charity/giving as a virtue and allows the pursuit of wealth. Much of what one believes and practices is up to the individual. These are lovely things to me, but I would not require the whole world to become Hindu. :)

Its the most forgiving and merciful of the Abrahamic religion for its followers.

What about all the attacks on Hindu temples in Pakistan or Bangladesh whenever some Muslims there are outraged by a perceived insult to Islam or God? Maybe their actions do not reflect Islamic teachings?

so yeah in seriousness my votes for Islam though

What if lots of us resist?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I think I’ll unite with the crowd that prefers Panda Express or Panera. :pandaface:



How about folk Islam?



From my perspective, Hinduism defeats nihilism and subjective morality very easily. Nonetheless, it features pluralist ethics for a society with organic unity.



Hinduism celebrates the bond between sister and brother. As well, it teaches charity/giving as a virtue and allows the pursuit of wealth. Much of what one believes and practices is up to the individual. These are lovely things to me, but I would not require the whole world to become Hindu. :)



What about all the attacks on Hindu temples in Pakistan or Bangladesh whenever some Muslims there are outraged by a perceived insult to Islam or God? Maybe their actions do not reflect Islamic teachings?



What if lots of us resist?
You can't resist Islam :p just kidding:)
What each person chose to answer in this thread is their own choice:)
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
:musicnotes: Mock Turtlism is the answer - Do not be a silly chancer - Mock Turtlism is the best - Mock Turtlism beats the rest :musicnotes: :turtle: :pileofpoop:
This cheap little ditty was obviously posted by one of my sillier fans - still working on the religion. :oops:
 
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danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Because they seem to be the lightest on dogma, and in a world free from anticompetitive traits which is what I guess the OP had in mind, i would expect the least dogmatic religions to win over more adherents through rational discourse.

Of course if anticompetitive traits are allowed then one of the more dogmatic strands of Islam would win hands down, with Christianity a close second :D

In my opinion.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Because they seem to be the lightest on dogma, and in a world free from anticompetitive traits which is what I guess the OP had in mind, i would expect the least dogmatic religions to win over more adherents through rational discourse.

Of course if anticompetitive traits are allowed then one of the more dogmatic strands of Islam would win hands down, with Christianity a close second :D

In my opinion.

Why do you think they are free from "anticompetitive traits" and the "least dogmatic"? Do you have any historical research?
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Why do you think they are free from "anticompetitive traits" and the "least dogmatic"? Do you have any historical research?

I am not certain what this means, but many Islamic countries forbid conversion and/or greatly restrict the activities of other religions. They also implement Islmic law, and often different from country ro country.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I am not certain what this means, but many Islamic countries forbid conversion and/or greatly restrict the activities of other religions. They also implement Islmic law, and often different from country ro country.

Many religions did many things. Yet, this is not good enough. To make such claim, there has to historical research.

Hope you understand.
 

GardenLady

Active Member
People are different so one religious teaching for all would not work,

Most religions have some statement similar to the "do unto others" admonition of Christianity. Some are stated positively (do unto others as you would have them do unto you) and some negatively (do not do to someone else what you would not want done to you). But the concept is generally the same. So maybe this hypothetical world-wide group could create a single "do unto others" religion. Of course, that ignores the question of religion as a set of facts about ultimate reality and whether there is a deity and who he/she is or they are.
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Why do you think they are free from "anticompetitive traits" and the "least dogmatic"? Do you have any historical research?
My opinions are largely informed through experience of the teachings and practitioners rather than through historical research.

That being said I have not heard of secular humanist or Unitarian Universalist dictatorships and my experience with anticompetitive Buddhists is that they are usually either more traditionally eastern in belief with associated dogmas or have Communism mixed in with their beliefs.

As far as being the least dogmatic, the dogmas of secular humanism that I know of are;
Reason will lead to better society, Man is on a progressive trend.

Unitarian Universalism dogma;
According to my understanding in UU you essentially bring your own dogma, I know of no official teaching that all UU members are required to adhere to.

Buddhism dogma;
This one is a tricky one because depending on which sect you belong to there could be a long or short list of dogmas, but according to my understanding Buddha taught that we need not rely on what we have heard, so this opens up thinking Buddhists to challenge received dogmas.

Compare the above three religions to Islam's dogmas you have;
1Belief in God
2 Belief in judgement day
3 belief in spirits (sect dependant)
4 belief in angels
5 belief in jinn
6 belief in Messengers
7 belief in the whole of the Quran
8 Belief in heaven/hell
Depending on sect you may even have a longer list of dogmas.

So it seems pretty clear to me that Islam has more dogma than the first three religions I mentioned.

In my opinion.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
My opinions are largely informed through experience of the teachings and practitioners rather than through historical research.

You say

1. Teachings
2. Practitioners.

For this, you have to do

1. Teachings you have to analyse the theology or religion and read scholarly works to understand them.
2. To understand practitioners you have to do historical research.

Otherwise it is just a bogus preaching like some preacher who is forming a cult with false preaching. So immediately, you are going to make some bogus assertions with your mind and agenda, maybe even cognitive biases if you are honest.

So the foundation is nonsensical.

That being said I have not heard of secular humanist or Unitarian Universalist dictatorships and my experience with anticompetitive Buddhists is that they are usually either more traditionally eastern in belief with associated dogmas or have Communism mixed in with their beliefs.

This shows you have not done a minutes worth of research.

So everything you are gonna say based on these premises is fallacious.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Buddhism dogma;
This one is a tricky one because depending on which sect you belong to there could be a long or short list of dogmas, but according to my understanding Buddha taught that we need not rely on what we have heard, so this opens up thinking Buddhists to challenge received dogmas.

You have no knowledge about Buddhism.

Compare the above three religions to Islam's dogmas you have;
1Belief in God
2 Belief in judgement day
3 belief in spirits (sect dependant)
4 belief in angels
5 belief in jinn
6 belief in Messengers
7 belief in the whole of the Quran
Depending on sect you may even have a longer list of dogmas.

You took Islam into the equation thinking attacking the person asking you for research would get affected and maybe its a great argument because you are just being false with no research on your "secular humanism, Buddhism" etc which was the question I asked about. So though you tried some red herring, you have no knowledge about Islam either.

So this is just a red herring. ;)
 

danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You say

1. Teachings
2. Practitioners.

For this, you have to do

1. Teachings you have to analyse the theology or religion and read scholarly works to understand them.
Most of the scholarly works of Islam that I know of are either not in English or outside of my affordability given that I am a humble gas meter reader, however I have read the Quran (the theological work of Muhammad) and found it to contain enough nonsense to realise I would be wasting my time delving too deeply.

2. To understand practitioners you have to do historical research.
Only to understand the practitioners you do not have direct experience of.

Of course if you have direct experience of someone who is a total buttocks head so lacking in humility as to dismiss your direct personal experience with a rant such as;

Otherwise it is just a bogus preaching like some preacher who is forming a cult with false preaching. So immediately, you are going to make some bogus assertions with your mind and agenda, maybe even cognitive biases if you are honest.

ETA 'nuff said.

This shows you have not done a minutes worth of research.

So everything you are gonna say based on these premises is fallacious.
No it doesn't, showing what the dogmas of those religions are then showing how they stack up against the dogmas of Islam would show I haven't done any research, but so far you've failed to make your case.

In my opinion.
 
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danieldemol

Veteran Member
Premium Member
You have no knowledge about Buddhism.
Well you are hardly improving it.

You took Islam into the equation thinking attacking the person asking you for research would get affected and maybe its a great argument because you are just being false with no research on your "secular humanism, Buddhism" etc which was the question I asked about. So though you tried some red herring, you have no knowledge about Islam either.

So this is just a red herring. ;)
Wrong, I directly compared my knowledge of the dogmas of the first 3 religions to the dogmas of Islam to demonstrate my point that they are less dogmatic.

If you got effected that's on you.

And if I have no knowledge of Islam then on which of the dogmas was I wrong?

In my opinion.
 
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