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The name 'Christian'

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
I'm not after a debate on this, just some quick answers.

What would a faithful Christian (i.e. a religious person) call a person who follows all of Jesus's philosophy, "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "live by the sword, die by the sword" etc, but lacks the belief that he was in any way Godly?

I ask this since 'Christian' is a term which nowadays means someone who beliefs in Christ the God, rather than a simple follower of Jesus as this hypothetical person would be.
 

Linus

Well-Known Member
Halcyon said:
What would a faithful Christian (i.e. a religious person) call a person who follows all of Jesus's philosophy, "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "live by the sword, die by the sword" etc, but lacks the belief that he was in any way Godly?
I'm not entirely sure that "live by the sword, die by the sword" is one of Jesus' teachings, but, then again, I could be missing something. Anyway, I would probably call that person a basically good person. One who has a good moral value system, but one who is simply not a christian. There are many people (including many atheists) who could be labeled as such, many of whom are my friends.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
I expect quite a few of those who listened to Jesus and benefited from his teachings never became Christians. They prbably still thought of them selves as followers.

Terry
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Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
 

fromthe heart

Well-Known Member
Halcyon said:
I'm not after a debate on this, just some quick answers.

What would a faithful Christian (i.e. a religious person) call a person who follows all of Jesus's philosophy, "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "live by the sword, die by the sword" etc, but lacks the belief that he was in any way Godly?

I ask this since 'Christian' is a term which nowadays means someone who beliefs in Christ the God, rather than a simple follower of Jesus as this hypothetical person would be.
I would say he was a 'Christian in waiting' because to me the term Christian means Christ Like... Typically one would try to live by the works of being a Christian because they have yet come to the understanding that you are not saved by works but by the Lord Jesus Christ's blood that was shed for your salvation should you humble yourself before Him and accept this for your life.:)
 

Zephyr

Moved on
Terrywoodenpic said:
I expect quite a few of those who listened to Jesus and benefited from his teachings never became Christians. They prbably still thought of them selves as followers.
I would consider myself a follower, but most certainly not a Christian. Too much weight is put on the whole dying thing rather than the living part.


I liked the living part.
 

may

Well-Known Member
Halcyon said:
I'm not after a debate on this, just some quick answers.

What would a faithful Christian (i.e. a religious person) call a person who follows all of Jesus's philosophy, "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "live by the sword, die by the sword" etc, but lacks the belief that he was in any way Godly?

I ask this since 'Christian' is a term which nowadays means someone who beliefs in Christ the God, rather than a simple follower of Jesus as this hypothetical person would be.
i would say that he was using his God given concience after all we are made in Gods image ......Love. justice, wisdom .power .are the 4 main attributes of God so if trained in the right way a person has a natural chance to be Good because of his concience
 

Unedited

Active Member
Well does this person believe in God though? If not, I'd say atheist. If yes, I'd say my dad. :D Of course, my father very much considers himself to be Christian.
 

James the Persian

Dreptcredincios Crestin
Halcyon said:
I'm not after a debate on this, just some quick answers.

What would a faithful Christian (i.e. a religious person) call a person who follows all of Jesus's philosophy, "love thy neighbour", "turn the other cheek", "live by the sword, die by the sword" etc, but lacks the belief that he was in any way Godly?

I ask this since 'Christian' is a term which nowadays means someone who beliefs in Christ the God, rather than a simple follower of Jesus as this hypothetical person would be.
I'd call him an Arian, because that would be an accurate name for a follower of Christ who believed he was not God, as Arius taught and some still continue to believe. He certainly wouldn't be a Christian as far as I'm concerned.

James
 

Halcyon

Lord of the Badgers
Ok, this might be impossible to answer, but what do you think Jesus himself would have thought of such a person? Would he have accepted him/her as a disciple?
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Halcyon said:
Ok, this might be impossible to answer, but what do you think Jesus himself would have thought of such a person? Would he have accepted him/her as a disciple?
Your question implies that Jesus and this person have met.
If you met Jesus you would no longer doubt he was the son of God.
Jesus only accepted disciples who gave up everything and followed him.
where as he taught everyone who would listen.

Terry
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Blessed are the gentle, they shall inherit the land
 
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