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The Nazi Spirit

newcastle

Member
Just before W.W.II ended, the allies invaded Berlin and found a nuclear reactor,
may have been in operation only a few weeks maybe months, the US scramble along
with the Russians and the British dividing the reactor along with german scientists.

Also the V2 rocket or vengeance rocket was also taken along with blueprints, it is the
bases of all rocket propelled missiles today.

Hitler did win his war, we all inherited the Nazi Spirit.

After the Great War, Russia the giant kept at war with America another giant.
Thru the ages from the Cold War, to the Korean, Cuban crisis, the Vietnam war,
the first Iran - Iraq war, Serb war and many more.

The original Giants died in this fashion, they destroyed each other, excerpts from
the book of Enoch; To Gabriel the LORD said, Go to the offspring of the Watchers,
the Giants bring them forth, and excite them one against another. Let them perish
by mutual slaughter; for length of days shall not be theirs.

The LORD speaking; now the giants, who have been born of spirit and of flesh,
shall be called upon earth evil spirits, and on earth shall be their habitation.
The spirits of the giants shall be like clouds, which shall oppress, corrupt, fall,
content, and bruise upon earth. They shall cause lamentation. No food shall they eat;
and they shall be thirsty; they shall be concealed.

The Nazi Spirit was inherited by all nations especially the giant ones, it is
needed by the Giants for the agenda that they are bond by.

In Enoch's dream the angels are the stars and horses, humans are the cows and
giants are elephants etc; I saw many stars which descended, I looked at
and observed them; when behold, they all acted after the manner of horses, and
began to approach the young cows, all of whom became pregnant, and brought
forth elephants, camels, and asses.

You know what political party carry the elephant and arse logo and you know in
what part of the world they are in now. The Giants are putting the world at
war yet again, this is how they died by mutual slaughter, but because they are
spirits, [they don’t die], only those under their influence.

Tell your leaders, it really doesn’t matter which party takes office, the Giants control everything.

Tell your leaders, not to spend so much money on campaigning, the Giants will carry out their agenda regardless.

Tell your leaders, not to think to deeply, the Giants influence it all.

Tell your leaders, the Giants have already signed agreements with each other to mutually assured destruction, M.A.D, a formality from the ancient of days.

Tell your leaders, the Cold War is over between the Giants, tell them it is now “Hot”, thermally speaking of course..
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
The only use for a nuclear reactor in manufacturing a bomb:
"Uranium-235 has the distinction of being the only naturally occurring fissile isotope. Uranium-238 is both fissionable by fast neutrons, and fertile (capable of being transmuted to fissile plutonium-239 in a nuclear reactor). "

The U.S. had a number of breeder reactors going in Oak Ridge, Tennesse by mid-1944. The first atomic bomb used natural U-235 which can only be created in exceedingly tiny amounts by centrifuging the more common U-238. The Nagasaki bomb was Plutonium 239. Berlin did not have any reactors at all. Reactor development had been halted by the unavailability of sufficient heavy water which was being lifted from a deep water lake in Norway.

he Nazi's never proced a gram of plutonium and had insufficient stocks of uranium to produce a bomb, particularly because their researchers believed that as much as a ton of fisible material would be needed to produce a critical mass.

Those Nazi scientists were amazed that the U.S. could produce a bomb from such a small amolunt of U-235, and amazed at the existence of P-239.

You're watching too much History Channel during sweeps, they tend to play sensationalist c**p in the spring.

Regards,
Scott
 

newcastle

Member
[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Believe what you want, your cut and paste doesn't impress me..

I raise you this one!!

[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.

Perhaps you did not finish reading the article?:

"

Sceptical response
His book has provoked huge interest in Germany, but also scepticism. It has been common knowledge for decades that the Nazis carried out atomic experiments, but it has been widely believed they were far from developing an atomic bomb.
"The eyewitnesses he puts forward are either unreliable or they are not reporting first-hand information; allegedly key documents can be interpreted in various ways," said the influential news weekly Der Spiegel.
""Karlsch displays a catastrophic lack of understanding of physics," wrote physicist Michael Schaaf, author of a previous book about Nazi atomic experiments, in the Berliner Zeitung newspaper.

"Karlsch has done us a service in showing that German research into uranium went further than we'd thought up till now, but there was not a German atom bomb," he added.
It has also been pointed out that the United States employed thousands of scientists and invested billions of dollars in the Manhattan Project, while Germany's "dirty bomb" was allegedly the work of a few dozen top scientists who wanted to change the course of the war.
Karlsch himself acknowledged that he lacked absolute proof for his claims, and said he hoped his book would provoke further research.
But in a press statement for the book launch, he is defiant. "It's clear there was no master plan for developing atom bombs. But it's also clear the Germans were the first to make atomic energy useable, and that at the end of this development was a successful test of a tactical nuclear weapon."
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You also need to understand the difference between a nuclear weapon and a "dirty bomb".

Regards,
Scott
 

newcastle

Member
[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Okay.

But you are misnaming it by calling it the "Nazi Spirit". You might as well call it the "Krupp Spirit" or the "Armstrong-Whitworth Spirit", or the "Bismarckian Spirit", or the "Napoleonic Spirit" or the "House of Hanover Spirit", or the Roman Spirit", or the "Macedonian Spirit", or the "Daryooshian Spirit", or the "Pharonic Spirit" . . . . . . . .

Politics and Force Majeur have been with us always.

Regards,
Scott
 

newcastle

Member
My reference was to the V2 rocket, which is the grand daddy of all modern ballistic missles..

[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Your flippin out on me, relax, i'm not here to ruffle your feathers..

My reference was to the V2 rocket, which is the grand daddy of all modern ballistic
missles, meaning today, as i am writing this. You may have misunderstood, i apologize,
i'm not the best writer i'll try to be more specific in the future.

But i must say, all your retorts have missed the spiritual message the post carries,
since we are on a religious board. These Giants are as real as the computer your
reading this post from.

The "Giants" are metaphor.

The V-2 rocket would not have been possible unless the Germans had ardently studied the work of an American, Robert Goddard. The military rocket was a fourteenth century invention based on fireworks, thanks to the inventiveness of the Han Chinese.

Regards,
Scott
 

newcastle

Member
The Germans didn't need to study from an American they had Hermann Oberth..

[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Goddard launched his first rocket nearly three years before Oberfth.

A dirty bomb is not a nuclear weapon.

One breeder reactor will not turn out enough plutonium for a device in "a few weeks".

And, finally, Karlsch is still in the "probably crackpot" herd.

It is more probable that the Japanese managed a dirty bomb test in Korea than the German ever managed to create enough radioactive material for eve3n a dirty bomb.

Regards,

Scott
 

newcastle

Member
Your historically mistaken, their achievements occurred independently..

And I don't even think 'Daryooshian' is a word!!

[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
Your historically mistaken, their achievements occurred independently..

And I don't even think 'Daryooshian' is a word!!

[BBC] In 2005 German historian Rainer Karlsch describes that the Germans had a
"hybrid tactical nuclear weapon" much smaller than those dropped on Hiroshima or
Nagasaki. Also , Germans had an atomic reactor near Berlin which was running for a
short while, perhaps some days or weeks, he told the BBC. Mr Karlsch said that new
research in Soviet and also Western archives, along with measurements carried out at
one of the test sites, provided evidence for the existence of the weapon.

Darius is Greek for Daryoosh (which is Persian).

If you want a phrase that IS nonsense, "hybrid tacticval nuclear weapon" is just the ticket.

You do know what a dirty bomb is, right?

Regards,
Scott
 

newcastle

Member
In 1938 physicists Otto Han and Fritz Strassman split the atom in Germany, first generating
fission-released energy, that same year many feared that Hitler would build an atomic bomb.
Albert Einstein, urged president Franklin Roosevelt to develop an atomic bomb before Hitler did.
German Scientists Split The Atom In 1938

The Manhattan Project was so far behind, it only caught up after the Battle of Berlin, when Germany
surrendered in May 1945, hereafter did the Project produce their first atomic bomb 'trinity' at Los Alamos
in July 1945, you can see how close these dates are, almost as if the Americans copied the Germans blueprints, they did!!

The term 'tactical hybrid' is applicable, the Germans were running out of time a Giant was closing in, the Germans
made their nuke smaller then 'little boy' and 'fat man' they made theirs more readily available using other components.
The Germans were highly advanced, this scenario is very likely. An unlikely scenario is the [dirty bomb] it could
never apply, only after many years of nuclear operation did we come to the understanding of its toxic waste.
The science was in its infancy stage, they could not have understood such a device.
BBC NEWS | Europe | Hitler 'tested small atom bomb'

No matter how you CUT & PASTE the pages of history, the fact remains that the "Nazi Spirit" was
the cause of nuclear fission, the cause of the nukes, the cause of rocket propelled missiles, the cause
of letting us turn against ourselves, going against our own humanitarian pacifism and continuing the
development of these 'weapons of mass destruction' and becoming a by product of that "Nazi Spirit."

We did not have to 'nuke' Japan, Germany had surrendered, Italy was no longer
a part of the Axis, Japan would have crumbled all alone in the world.

But the "Nazi Spirit" became embedded so deep within us, it was IMPOSSIBLE to resist it.

The American Establishment, the Russian Establishment, or any other Establishments are all
infected by the "Nazi Spirit," who are all influence by the "SPIRITS Of The GIANTS."

 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
The first sustained nuclear fission plant was built under the stadium at the University of Chicago created by Fermi.

Fermi came to the United States from Italy specifically because the fascist axis posed a threat to his wife, who was Jewish.

Hahn's experiment did not produce any measurable energy and the fission was induced from the increased proportion of barium in the process creatred by slow neutrons.

"Spirit of the Giants" appears to be nothing of substance, a mere illusion, it is fable. The pages of history mock it.

Regards,
Scott
 

Popeyesays

Well-Known Member
My freind's great grandfather (Enrico Fermi) created the designs for the first nuclear reactor... Cool huh?

Designed? Heck he even helped stack the blocks to form the containment vessel. He discarded the idea of control through heavy water as heavy water was so hard to find. He went with graphite rods which were cheap easy to find and make.

Regards,
Scott
 
Designed? Heck he even helped stack the blocks to form the containment vessel. He discarded the idea of control through heavy water as heavy water was so hard to find. He went with graphite rods which were cheap easy to find and make.

Regards,
Scott

I still know one of his descendants! Who is very intelligent, it seems to pass down. Did you know Fermi's nephew won a silver medal?
 
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