The Need For Christian Symbolism on Government Property

[Revoltingest]

Maybe you should pull up this video in your search engine
video obama professing a muslim

You say "this video" without linking one.

 

[SkepticThinker]

You say it's false, Why don't check it out for yourself then, you will hear Obama himself saying that he's a Muslim.
Why you can't even believe it when Obama himself professing to be a Muslim.

Put in your search engine
---> video obama professing Muslim
And hear Obama for yourself professing to being Muslim. Or are you to afraid to find out that you been lied to?

You should check it out for yourself. It's false. It appears you have bought into a lot of propaganda. Are you going to also try to tell us that he was born in Kenya?


Just wondering though ... If he had actually said he was a Muslim .... so what? What point are you trying to make with this?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Like I said, Check out the life biography of
Frederic Auguste Bartholdi the Sculptor, architect, of the Statue of Liberty.

Thanks for being totally vague.

 

[leibowde84]

Ok, what ever.so you say

Here is some information on the origin of the Statue of Liberty poem:
What is the quote on the statue of liberty?
There are several phrases associated with the Statue of Liberty, but the most recognizable is “Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.” This quote comes from Emma Lazarus’ sonnet, New Colossus, which she wrote for a fundraiser auction to raise money for the pedestal upon which the Statue of Liberty now sits. The poem did not receive much recognition and was quite forgotten after the auction.

In the early 1900s and after Lazarus’ death, one of her friends began a campaign to memorialize Lazarus and her New Colossus sonnet. The effort was a success, and a plaque with the poem’s text was mounted inside the pedestal of the statute.

Statue of Liberty Poem
Also known as the Statue of Liberty poem, New Colossus and its famous last lines have become part of American history. Here is the sonnet in its entirety:

New Colossus

Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”

Statue of Liberty Inscription
Since Lazarus’ poem was mounted on a plaque, it is not actually inscribed on the Statue of Liberty. The only Statue of Liberty inscription can be found on the tablet in her left hand, which says JULY IV MDCCLXXVI (July 4, 1776), the day the United States adopted the Declaration of Independence.

 

[Faithofchristian]

You say "this video" without linking one.

Come on, just put in your search engine

---> video obama professing a muslim <----

And it will come up about Obama himself professing to be a muslim

 

[Faithofchristian]

You should check it out for yourself. It's false. It appears you have bought into a lot of propaganda. Are you going to also try to tell us that he was born in Kenya?


Just wondering though ... If he had actually said he was a Muslim .... so what? What point are you trying to make with this?

Now your to funny, Obama himself professing himself to be a Muslim and you call what Obama himself is saying that he is a Muslim as false.
So your saying, that you can't take Obama at his own words professing as being a Muslim
Your just to funny.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Thanks for being totally vague.

What you think that I am going to do the work for you, I gave what you have to do to show who the person is that architect the Statue of Liberty.

 

[Revoltingest]

Come on, just put in your search engine

---> video obama professing a muslim <----

And it will come up about Obama himself professing to be a muslim

Many have been debunked.
Can you link one which you claim is legitimate (unaltered)?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Come on, just put in your search engine

---> video obama professing a muslim <----

And it will come up about Obama himself professing to be a muslim

Doesn't exist.

 

[SkepticThinker]

What you think that I am going to do the work for you, I gave what you have to do to show who the person is that architect the Statue of Liberty.

Yes, I do expect you to "do the work" by explaining yourself.

You keep bringing up things that are unrelated to the thread topic and so I'm asking what the relevance is. Is it really that hard to just explain it?
Instead of me going and pouring through reading material that may or may not be relevant to whatever point it is you are trying to make (I still don't know), perhaps you could just explain why you brought it up and why. It's kind of difficult to have discussions when one person refuses to elaborate on anything they're bringing up.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Now your to funny, Obama himself professing himself to be a Muslim and you call what Obama himself is saying that he is a Muslim as false.
So your saying, that you can't take Obama at his own words professing as being a Muslim
Your just to funny.

I see no such video anywhere. Perhaps you could provide one.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Many have been debunked.
Can you link one which you claim is legitimate (unaltered)?

Well let's see you have Obama himself in the video claiming to be a Muslim, so how is that to be debunked. Go Figure

 

[SkepticThinker]

Well let's see you have Obama himself in the video claiming to be a Muslim, so how is that to be debunked. Go Figure

What video? Where?

Nobody can seem to find this video. Would you care to provide it?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Doesn't exist.

That may depend on which website your trying to use. Did you try Google

 

[SkepticThinker]

That may depend on which website your trying to use. Did you try Google

Oh good grief. I am using Google. Probably everyone is.

I guess since you can't produce it, I am right in pointing out that this video doesn't actually exist. I mean, you're the one that brought it up.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Oh good grief. I am using Google. Probably everyone is.

I guess since you can't produce it, I am right in pointing out that this video doesn't actually exist. I mean, you're the one that brought it up.

I am not on a lap top computer, all I have is on my phone.

Try this using caps
Obama Admits He is a Muslim - YouTube

 

[Revoltingest]

Well let's see you have Obama himself in the video claiming to be a Muslim, so how is that to be debunked. Go Figure

And yet....you provide no video.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

You say it's false, Why don't check it out for yourself then, you will hear Obama himself saying that he's a Muslim.
Why you can't even believe it when Obama himself professing to be a Muslim.

Put in your search engine
---> video obama professing Muslim
And hear Obama for yourself professing to being Muslim. Or are you to afraid to find out that you been lied to?

I did listen to it -- and nothing I've ever seen or heard has been so obviously and so badly edited to achieve exactly the sort of uncritical reaction that you have. I've also looked into the source materials for the bits and pieces that were cobbled together in such a crude and clumsy way -- something you could have done for yourself, if it didn't tell you what you already wanted to hear and therefore accepted as if it were gospel truth. It is not.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I did listen to it -- and nothing I've ever seen or heard has been so obviously and so badly edited to achieve exactly the sort of uncritical reaction that you have. I've also looked into the source materials for the bits and pieces that were cobbled together in such a crude and clumsy way -- something you could have done for yourself, if it didn't tell you what you already wanted to hear and therefore accepted as if it were gospel truth. It is not.

So you say, there was nothing edited. Obama was very plain about being a Muslim and of the Muslim faith.
All what they did is take where Obama stated himself as being a Muslim.Its very plain to see what Obama said of Himself came directly out of his own mouth.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So you say, there was nothing edited. Obama was very plain about being a Muslim and of the Muslim faith.
All what they did is take where Obama stated himself as being a Muslim.Its very plain to see what Obama said of Himself came directly out of his own mouth.

I do not wish to disparage you, but you are not thinking critically, and you seem utterly unaware of what "editing" means. Also, you seem to have difficulty understanding context, and how things can change when you remove the context.

Let's pretend that you have a video of me that shows me saying, "if by 'are you Christian' you mean was I born and raised in a Christian community, baptized and so forth, then I would have to say yes, I am a Christian. But that is not my understanding of what it means to be Christian, so of course it's nonsense."

Now, if you take that video and delete everything except the bit I highlighted, you could get a video of me saying I am a Christian -- when in fact I never said so in any what that is meaningful and when in fact I am decidedly NOT Christian.

And that is what happened in the video believe so heartily. So I stand by my criticism fully -- the claim that Obama claimed to be Muslim is FALSE. Only dishonest editing and uncritical, unthinking viewers could believe otherwise.