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The NRA at its best

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do you honestly believe this to be a reasonably accurate evaluation of the NRA ad?
Yup!!
It's short on analysis, but what public relations efforts aren't?
We notice shortcomings when people take a side we dislike,
but we lack that same keen skepticism when someone proffers
an agreeable agenda. I'd say the anti-gun side is far far worse,
but you might attribute that to my bias, eh?
 

McBell

Unbound
Personally I don't believe it's poor legislation.

As far as "scary looking"...There isn't much difference in the M16 full auto than there is the Ar15 semi-auto but for a few inner workings. It (the AR15) is a "Combat Weapon". It isn't a hunting weapon and the case for "home protection" is a weak case at best....So no one is simply trying to ban it solely on its looks.
Except for the fact that there are people who use it to hunt...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The AR15 is a fine varmint rifle, since 5.56 NATO is dang near the same round as 222 Remington.
 

Dirty Penguin

Master Of Ceremony
Except for the fact that there are people who use it to hunt...

So..!?

Those people grandfathered in should keep their guns. Those that aren't will have to use something else. I often go hunting using a 50 cal muzzle loader my friend owns. In one particular county here in VA that and bows are all you can use with the exception of a shotgun.

In another county we hunt they allow other types. My friend owns a .270 rifle that we've hunted with.....
 

McBell

Unbound
Ehhhh... ermmm... maybe. To be fair, if the AR-15 was banned/restricted, there is a large range of alternatives if hunting is your main argument.
There are a lot of weapons that are better for hunting that the AR-15.
That is not the point.

The point is there are people who use the AR-15 for hunting, so claiming it is not a hunting rifle is just plain wrong.
 

BBTimeless

Active Member
There are a lot of weapons that are better for hunting that the AR-15.
That is not the point.

The point is there are people who use the AR-15 for hunting, so claiming it is not a hunting rifle is just plain wrong.
Any firearm could be "used for hunting". I could, technically, go hunting with a grenade launcher.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Any firearm could be "used for hunting". I could, technically, go hunting with a grenade launcher.
Silly comparison.
An AR-15 is a fine weapon for harvesting small game, particularly at a distance.
A grenade launcher is.....oh, hell...you know the difference, you mischievous wag!
(They're a little big for squirrels though....so you're safe.)
 

BBTimeless

Active Member
Silly comparison.
An AR-15 is a fine weapon for harvesting small game, particularly at a distance.
A grenade launcher is.....oh, hell...you know the difference, you mischievous wag!
(They're a little big for squirrels though....so you're safe.)
Ok fine, you caught me being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative. Fair point. :)
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
Do you really think this is "overreaction" in lieu of Sandyhook...and should we just leave the status quo as is?
No, I have made my stance clear in other threads of the forum. The status quo needs to be changed. But anti-gun advocates are taking advantage of the high emotions right now to try and go overboard in instituting total bans on weapons. If they have their way, the only change in the status quo will be law abiding citizens being treated as criminals. These mass murders they are trying to stop will continue unabated.
 

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
Exactly who is proposing to ban all rifles with plastic stocks?
Several of the bans, such as Feinstein's, are based upon banning weapons with certain cosmetic characteristics, such as sliding stocks which are generally plastic. Although, if you wish to be picky, I can add the word "sliding" in my original post.
 

Comet

Harvey Wallbanger
The problem is multi-fold. I grew up with guns and was taught how to use them. I've been a hunter and shooter for fun and sport. Are guns the problem? OR ARE THEY JUST AN EASY WAY FOR FREAKS AND A GOOD EXCUSE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE AWAY MORE RIGHTS? Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Our society is broken, not our gun rights. Taking away guns does not stop the problem...

I give 911, suicide bombers, and Oklahoma City as examples. Taking away our guns is the same as saying that drunk driving is a major problem and needs to be addressed: SO, we are going back to PROHIBITION (worked great didn't it?) and not allowing anybody to own a car. You will all use public transportation. PROBLEM SOLVED! Now we can all feel safe and good about our lives....

UGH... seriously?
 

BBTimeless

Active Member
The problem is multi-fold. I grew up with guns and was taught how to use them. I've been a hunter and shooter for fun and sport. Are guns the problem? OR ARE THEY JUST AN EASY WAY FOR FREAKS AND A GOOD EXCUSE FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO TAKE AWAY MORE RIGHTS? Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Our society is broken, not our gun rights. Taking away guns does not stop the problem...

I give 911, suicide bombers, and Oklahoma City as examples. Taking away our guns is the same as saying that drunk driving is a major problem and needs to be addressed: SO, we are going back to PROHIBITION (worked great didn't it?) and not allowing anybody to own a car. You will all use public transportation. PROBLEM SOLVED! Now we can all feel safe and good about our lives....

UGH... seriously?
Once again, taking away all guns is not on the table.
 

Comet

Harvey Wallbanger
RPGs don't kill people, people kill people. ...

This is a true statement.

Again, it is the person holding the RPG. The person is broken, the RPG is a tool.

:ignore:BAN ALL GUNS:ignore:

:run:Go on an run from the PROBLEM.

PS- I don't remember an RPG being used in any tragedy. So lets ban them... and hand guns... and hunting rifles... and citizens who obey the law from owning them.... Yup, problem solved. I can sure sleep better now.
 
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