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The number of Ex C's on this website. Are you one?

RedDragon94

Love everyone, meditate often
I was just wondering. You all know that I am a sold out Christian, and I was just wondering how many people on this website have ever been involved in the Christian faith and have left it. For fun, describe yourself while you were a Christian and tell me how your life has improved since leaving Christianity. Describe your theology as a Christian as well.
 

arthra

Baha'i
Red Dragon...

I was raised in a Baptist Church which was actually fairly liberal ... there was a University in our community started by the church...I also had a friend that was Episcopalian and I used to sing in the choir with him... anyway... later in life I began searching various religions and exploring them.. I also attended Silent Meeting Friends for a couple years and was impressed by their position on peace and non-violence. ... reading Leo Tolstoy's "Gospel in Brief"... and Kahlil Gibran's "Jesus Son of Man".. Still late I became a Baha'i and still loved Jesus teachings. I found out my wife and I shared a common heritage having ancestors in the Brethren denomination from central Europe. We're both Baha'is and have a deep respect for our Christian roots. Baha'is accept Jesus as a Manifestation of God.
 

Kalibhakta

Jai Maha Kali Ma!
I used to be Christian, generic, hell fearing. I was balancing between Gnosticism, Daoism and Sufism in a battle for my soul before I became the Hindu that I was today.
 

te_lanus

Alien Hybrid
I grew up in the reformed church of south africa.

I went to the pentacostle then to the charismatics. While there I started studying as a pastor, but the more I studied the less christian I became.



What is a "sold out Christian"?
To quote dc Talk: a "Jesus freak"
 

Ultimatum

Classical Liberal
I used to be a Christian growing up.
Then I decided to come to conclusions using empirical, rather than wishful, means.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I was just wondering. You all know that I am a sold out Christian, and I was just wondering how many people on this website have ever been involved in the Christian faith and have left it. For fun, describe yourself while you were a Christian and tell me how your life has improved since leaving Christianity. Describe your theology as a Christian as well.

Brazilians, at least in the big cities, have to be involved in the Christian faith, even if it is just to the extent of showing behavior that might be mistaken for that of a Christian when in mixed company.

We do not really have a choice on the matter. We are routinely assumed to be Christian until otherwise evidenced - and let me tell you, that is quite bothersome.

One of the reasons why is because that means that we have to continually choose between being mistaken for someone that we are not or else being rude by explicitly pointing out that we do not share their beliefs.

I myself was simply ordered as a child to enter the course for Eucharisty. I never considered myself a theist, much less a Christian, nor manifested any interest in becoming one. But that simply did not matter far as I knew. To this day I wonder if anyone thinks I should have been asked (probably not).

The end result is that I am formally a Catholic, since I never bothered to go through the paperwork to ask for excommunion. I assume that at least some of the numbers about how many people in Brazil are Catholics end up including me, very much against facts and my own will.

Letting go of the desire not to disappoint those people certainly did a lot to improve my sense of honesty and self-responsibility, as well as to encourage people to speak frankly with me and to avoid or get closer to me for proper reasons. I guess it does not look like a lot, but trust me, that is quite the achievement.

Unfortunately, I don't think it is a common achievement in this country.
 

JRMcC

Active Member
I was Catholic until I was 10, or maybe a little younger. I used to say prayers with my parents every night... I can't even imagine my parents saying prayers anymore. Somewhere along the way they both lost their belief in a personal God, I think mostly because they each had tragic deaths of a parent. They didn't necessarily turn atheist, but religion left my house and now I feel as though I was never Catholic.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Raised in the Catholic Church. Went to college. Joined Campus Crusade for Christ. Became a fervent believer and evangelist. Prayed constantly from the time I realized my same sex attractions for peace of mind and to be healed from whatever sickness existed. Had a gun in my mouth at 19 ready to end it all because of the hellish existence from trying to be a good Christian.

Renounced Christianity at that point. I chose to live without the burden. Leaving Christianity gave me peace as I finally could understand and accept my bisexuality. I can never go back to a patriarchal and homophobic/biphobic institution and community. I prefer living fully and compassionately and wisely for others and not stressing myself to death over whether or not my female-ness or my bisexuality is putting me at a severe handicap in a deity's eyes.

I personally have been happily Christianity-free for over 20 years.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I was just wondering. You all know that I am a sold out Christian, and I was just wondering how many people on this website have ever been involved in the Christian faith and have left it.
:) In my experience regarding ExChristians, I have seen that a lot of the most strident evangelical atheists used to be the most "sold out" of Christians before. I'm just saying, I think there is a correlation there worthy of consideration.

For fun, describe yourself while you were a Christian and tell me how your life has improved since leaving Christianity. Describe your theology as a Christian as well.
While I dislike labels and don't like to call myself anything as I strive for a more inclusive approach, I'll say I left Christianity as a set system of doctrines and theologies and self-identifications because I found myself increasingly having all of that not resonating with me, nor helpful to me in my growth. In fact it hindered and failed to support my spiritual growth, holding me back and dragging me down in its confusion. I did not, as some like to use the term "deconvert", but rather I see it as simply outgrowing it as a system, and considering the majority of the way Christianity is structured and taught, that pretty much left me an "ExChristian". I disidentified with the mythic-literal, radical dualism, anti-intellectual, political-conservatism of what defines most of Western Evangelical Christianity in U.S.. I also found little connection with the more modest mainstream churches, not because of any offense at them, but just simply because it lacked any real substance for me on a spiritual path.

As an active Christian in the day I threw myself wholeheartedly into it, perhaps you could use the term I was "sold out" as you claim for yourself. I had found myself part of the Pentecostal form of Christianity, seeking to reconnect with and grown in God experientially as well as theologically. I had had a profound spiritual awakening experience prior to joining that church, and felt that after a couple years of seeking a religious home for myself these people had "the answers" I was seeking for. I threw myself into it, soaking up all their teaching and practices like a thirsty sponge. I became a walking concordance, being able to quote any scripture chapter and verse. I felt "called" to go into the ministry and enrolled in Bible college. I helped bring people into the church, preached and taught, and graduated top of my class with a degree in theology.

But during my last couple years of college that deep internal spiritual Core was finding itself increasingly unable to integrate the theologies that we were being taught was "God's word". Intellectually I tried to believe what was being taught because it was "written" in the Bible, and that we were taught that we should not trust the heart, that the heart was "deceitfully wicked", and all that that I hear fundamentalist Christians still cite today to reject and suppress their own inner voices. This set up a certain pressure, like trying to push a balloon full of air underneath the water. The God being presented to me to "believe in", and worse, to teach others about, was not what agreed with my heart as it knew God, with the heart. It was not a matter of a lustful heart, but a heart of peace and truth and love which had previously touched the very face of God. But as this conflict of the heart versus theology waged on in private, as my reasoning and intellectual mind grew I began to see the very theological underpinnings of their religious structures was deeply flawed.

Cracks in the foundations of their beliefs, theologies, ideologies, political leanings, and all of it began to appear and weaken the whole structure itself. After I graduate college and was slated to return to my home church as an assistant pastor to begin my path as an ordained minister, I was now so deeply conflicted that I had to resolve this. Since I had the headspace outside of school now, I sat down with many volumes of works (this is pre-Internet days, BTW), and by candlelight (kidding, we had lightbulbs in that day), I went for a deepdive to resolve this one way or the other. I was a bit fearful because of course we were taught that to doubt God was to risk hell, of course. But I told myself, and God, that if I am wrong I will be judged by my sincerity, as I could not in all good conscience use my gifts and abilities to persuade others to devote their lives to something I had such grave misgivings about. Thus began the collapse of the structure, and four months later I wrote my pastor a 66 page letter explaining the details of why I could not support the ministry of that church organization. I never heard back from any of them.

After some other experiments in other forms of Christianity I found no real connection at that spiritual heart level, and I became more or less, "homeless" as it were. I never doubted God's existence, since the core of my very being was rooted in a very direct experience of "God". It was the core of my being, the nuclear reactor that powered everything in the system, so to speak. That is beyond question still the very same today, but the major difference being I have been able to find a way to "free God" as it were from the shackles of religion, finding "God" in all religions and in no religion. It's gets a little complicated to explain all that easily as there are many miles of road travelled to describe in order to being to convey what that structure looks like. But the underlying point is that for me, for who I am, that Core inside me is now able to grow and thrive and transform my whole being into the "image of itself', to use such familiar language.

I'll stop here with one saying I came up with years ago, which is something that I've heard very many people who have left Christianity resonate with when I say it. In a twist of great irony I used to say, "I feel more a Christian now that I'm not one, then I ever did when I was one". There's a reason for this. Because we have no God threatening us to "love, or else". It's not a self-facing, self-preserving act, which it is and was in Christianity. We have no reason to love, other than love is a better way. Our reward, is life itself. Freedom. Freedom from fear. Freedom to live. Freedom to love. Freedom to become.

I hope your "sold-out" Christianity is willing to go the same distance in being "sold out". ;) For me it took it to walking away from the religion itself and climb that mountain on foot alone.
 
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jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Methodist instruction as a child
Baptist for about 5 years during adolescence
Presbyterian teaching during high school

*Left the faith after I started reading for myself around this same period*

After my parent's divorce, however, and because of the faith background of my ex-wife, I rejoined and gave it everything I had.
I spent the next few years trying to balance keeping myself honest with conforming to certain standards.
I found a niche as a missions leader in a non-denominational mega church that was founded on some Baptist principles
Served on their missions board and was responsible for channeling resources and people everywhere from Haiti to East Asia. I personally led relief crews to both Haiti and to tornado zones in the US

But I couldn't sustain the lie.

I don't have a specific moment when I finally just let it all go so I could be honest with myself, but it was sometime between 2010 & 2011.

I determined that honesty and knowledge were more important than any of the other motivators that lead people to organized religion. It was a very liberating time and something that, looking back, I wonder why it took me so long.

I did some good things under the umbrella of the theistic culture - but I've done even more free of its constraints. I also find it much easier to gather like-minded people away from the church, which is quite odd considering that at any one time there were between 3,000-4,000 individuals lumped together believing in supposedly the same message of charity, compassion, and love.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Baptised, raised Christian, went through an Evangelical summer camp that I regretted every minute being forced into.
 

Dionysus

┏(°.°)┛┗(°.°)┓┗(°.°)┛┏(°.°)┓
I grew up evangelical, studied to be a pastor, homeschooled my kids, and remained active in various ministries well into my 30s. It's nice not to have to worry about the immortal souls of all of the good people whom I used to believe God would torture forever if I didn't help them to learn self-loathing and slave-master-worshiping. It's nice to have money to address real needs instead of church buildings and pastor salaries. It's nice to be able to accept people for who they are. It's nice to be able to enjoy edgy subjects guilt-free. It's nice to be able to give people credit for good things that they do instead of crediting an imaginary sky-daddy. Shall I go on?
 

The_Evelyonian

Old-School Member
I was born and raised in a Christian household. I grew up believing the Bible to be the holy (wholly) inspired word of God and read it as literally as anyone could without warranting time in a psychiatric or correctional facility. My theology fell largely along the lines of the mainstream evangelical church, with a few minor differences (I could never really get the hang of the Trinity). Well, around the age of 16-17, tiny doubts began to seep in. I took them to my family, to church friends, even to the Pastor, only to be given the same answer time and time again, "You just need to have more faith."

I suppose, to them, it seemed like a good response, but the problem with questions that are never answered is that they never go away. I have what I call 'a skeptic's mind'. As soon as I began to doubt the veracity of the Bible and the doctrines surrounding it, my mind tore into it with a vengeance and began to unravel the entire story until all I could see were the contradictions, the injustices, and everything else that just didn't make any sense. The harder I tried to ignore it and "just believe", the stronger it got until, finally, I chose to lay everything down. I decided to critically examine every belief about God that I had and see what could actually be justified.

I am now an atheist.

"Losing the faith" seems like a bad way to put it as I don't really feel I like I lost anything. I'm much happier now. I no longer carry the feelings of guilt or the endless fears of offending a god. Having had love affair with science for as long as I can remember, that has now exploded into a full-blown passion and I find what it shows us about our origins to be far more awe-inspiring and fulfilling than anything I've ever read in any sacred text.

I feel now as though I've embraced reality on its terms. Sure, it's not all beautiful. I'd much rather have an eternity with my loved ones in an afterlife somewhere rather than just "ending" when I die, but that (as far as I can tell) is simply not what will happen. This life, it seems to me, is the only one I'll get and now, with Christianity (and religion/faith in general) far behind me, I feel like I can truly appreciate it for the gift that it is and live it to its fullest.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
I was a Christian (Presbyterian) for 40 years. Less than a year ago, I decided I could no longer support or identify with the mythic beliefs and political regressiveness of Christianity. I still find value in parts of the Bible, and still connect with "God beyond God". I am still dealing with the fear that Christianity instills, and trying to let go of the inner Christian critic. In leaving dogma behind, I feel more free to explore spirituality, increasingly without fear.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
Parents converted to Christianity when I was about ten years old. I was baptized and confirmed in the United Methodist Church. Atheist by 16. As I realized I was gay, I didn't really want much to do with Christianity. Also, the religion was clearly a fairy tale. At the time that I left the church, the Jesus Seminar was quite active and I was reading Spong quite a bit, along with some others. Tried out a Christian Unitarian congregation, but at base I was just an atheist. No getting around it.
 

Helvetios

Heathen Sapiens
Raised evangelical Lutheran as a child, have also attended Baptist and Dutch Reformed congregations, baptized and confirmed in the Lutheran church. Christian middle and high schools, in addition to youth group and retreats for most of those years. I was a 'true believer'. Huge internal conflict arose when I finally had to face my depression and bisexuality, since I had been taught that critical thinking is great but my religious beliefs should be preserved. This attitude contributes to a culture in which questioning what you have been taught is okay (so radical!) but only when it leads deeper faith in Christ. Moving away from the faith meant that you were asking the wrong questions or there was something wrong with you.

I felt God in nature and music and worship every Sunday. I continue to have those feelings in nature and music, and even in worship when I was still attending church as a nonbeliever. The difference now is that I am no longer concerned with obeying the right rules or otherwise avoiding slipping back into what Christians call sin, which would take me away from the God I could feel during emotional times but never when it mattered most.

As for the doctrines, although I had internalized the concept of brokenness I could not fully accept that being attracted to other girls was part of this sinful nature. It was just a part of me, hanging out with the rest of my identity while I wrestled with accepting and denying it. This was not what fully brought me away from Christianity but it was the first major step.
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
I was born and raised Roman Catholic, converted to Eastern Orthodox at age 23, stopped practicing and believing in Christianity about 10 years later. As a Catholic I was completely hung up on sin, obsessing over it you might say. The legalism and dogma of the RCC drove me away, but I found the EOC was only marginally better. I simply couldn't believe the theology and cosmology of Christianity anymore. For a long time, even up until the past few years I have had much respect for Jesus's teachings. I found the teachings about God's love, compassion and for others to be very much in line with Hinduism, which I practiced for a few years, and with Buddhism which I dabbled in. However, something has awakened inside me that says that's all a little too touchy-feely and huggy-huggy, not suited to the real me.
 
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