The People’s Guide to Project 2025

[Daemon Sophic]

I find the ads by the Lincoln Project to be useful and frightening. I saw this one for the first time 2 days ago; in response to the SCOTUS debacle (or at least their latest debacle) and Project 2025.

Remember, your vote must be, above all else, made to deny Trump a second term.​

 

[SkepticThinker]

Basically you have formed a biased, unshakable opinion of Mr. Trump being a "liar" and nothing he or anyone else could say would persuade you otherwise regardless of any facts. Kismet.

The facts heavily support such an opinion.

 

[Valjean]

Name one.

Democrats support Social Security, women's rights, health, safety and environmental protections, livable wage, affordable healthcare, &al.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It's a crooked corporate agenda by the Koch brothers (Heritage Foundation).

There hasn't been a Koch brothers in awhile now. The agenda is unholy and unAmerica and hateful and nasty, but do get your criticisms right.

 

[Valjean]

Basically you have formed a biased, unshakable opinion of Mr. Trump being a "liar" and nothing he or anyone else could say would persuade you otherwise regardless of any facts. Kismet.

His statements have been fact-checked by multiple parties, multiple times.

 

[Valjean]

Project 2025 is a creation of the Heritage Foundation, they are not the GOP. They are a separate conservative think tank. They do not speak for the GOP nor Trump.

They are in league.

 

[fantome profane]

That's mighty thin gruel to make your meal on. To refute his public statement you offer speculations and spin.

You are basing your argument on the truthfulness of something said by Donald Trump. There is no "thinner gruel" than that.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Basically you have formed a biased, unshakable opinion of Mr. Trump being a "liar" and nothing he or anyone else could say would persuade you otherwise regardless of any facts. Kismet.

Actually, it's because so much of what he says is and has been lies. A person who tells lies all of the time may with some justification be called a "liar."

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

There's a very partisan site that I read daily and occasionally link to here - The Palmer Report, headed by Bill Palmer and assorted other writers. When I say highly partisan, I mean that he uses phrases like "our side." But I've found it very informative over the years. When they claim something is a fact, whenever I've checked, it always has been, such as so-and-so said or did the following. It's been a valuable resource to me. Lately, they've written several articles on the failure of the media, especially with pounding Biden while giving Trump as pass, and they're correct. A flagrant example was the NY Times call for Biden to step down after his debate performance, but no such recommendation to Trump to do the same after his felony convictions. To my knowledge, nobody else is writing about this.

Well, I'm not media -- but I have written about this here! Even the leftish media is -- I hope inadvertantly -- trying to bury their own candidate while letting the most dangerous person ever to be those close to the throne get off with little comment at all!

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The facts heavily support such an opinion.

Oh, sure, but what about the alternative facts?

 

[Revoltingest]

There's a very partisan site that I read daily and occasionally link to here - The Palmer Report, headed by Bill Palmer and assorted other writers. When I say highly partisan, I mean that he uses phrases like "our side." But I've found it very informative over the years. When they claim something is a fact, whenever I've checked, it always has been, such as so-and-so said or did the following. It's been a valuable resource to me. Lately, they've written several articles on the failure of the media, especially with pounding Biden while giving Trump as pass, and they're correct. A flagrant example was the NY Times call for Biden to step down after his debate performance, but no such recommendation to Trump to do the same after his felony convictions. To my knowledge, nobody else is writing about this.

These are recent examples:

So much for THAT fake Biden story
Dirty little secret about Biden-Trump poll numbers
Contrarian hot take insanity

I don't post this to endorse the site, although I do, but rather as an example of a very partisan but trusted and insightful source and why it doesn't matter to me that they are partisan if they are also honest and reliable. I'm able to draw my own conclusions from the facts. I don't believe Palmer et al.'s opinions because they hold them. I agree when I see that they are correct. You can do that, too.

Incidentally, this was their take on the OP topic. Nothing new there if you've followed this thread, but this is where I learned that after Trump said he knew nothing about the topic, he went on to demonstrate that he was lying. @Heyo posted the same above, the second time I read that in a few hours. And yes, this is extremely partisan, but so what? They don't print alleged facts that turn out to be false or massaged:

Project 2025 blows up in Donald Trump’s face

Partisans would do well to eschew epithets, histrionics, etc.
This might rally the troops, but repels others.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Democrats support Social Security, women's rights, health, safety and environmental protections, livable wage, affordable healthcare, &al.

You mean they just talked about it.

If they actually supported it , we wouldn't be having these conversations on these topics today.

 

[F1fan]

Basically you have formed a biased, unshakable opinion of Mr. Trump being a "liar" and nothing he or anyone else could say would persuade you otherwise regardless of any facts. Kismet.

There is no bias in observing Trump lie.

Don’t assume we well informed citizens have been manipulated and duped by the corrupt criminal. That is your liability.

 

[Shaul]

You mean they just talked about it.

If they actually supported it , we wouldn't be having these conversations on these topics today.

In your biased opinion, of course.

 

[Spice]

@Shaul said:
"Project 2025 is a creation of the Heritage Foundation, they are not the GOP. They are a separate conservative think tank. They do not speak for the GOP nor Trump."

They are in league.

From AP: Who is the new RNC?
Michael Whatley, a North Carolina Republican who has echoed Trump's false theories of voter fraud, was elected the party's new national chairman in a vote Friday morning in Houston. Lara Trump, the former president's daughter-in-law, was voted in as co-chair. Mar 8, 2024

EDIT: Trump has "a hand" in everything around him. Remember, Navarro and Dr. Carson are two distinct names ON the Project 2025 document.

 

[Shaul]

There is no bias in observing Trump lie.

Of course there could be. It could certainly be a matter of opinion. Including a biased opinion.

Don’t assume we well informed citizens have been manipulated and duped by the corrupt criminal. That is your liability.

With the measure you judge others you shall be judged.

 

[F1fan]

Basically you have formed a biased, unshakable opinion of Mr. Trump being a "liar" and nothing he or anyone else could say would persuade you otherwise regardless of any facts. Kismet.

There is no bias in observing Trump lie.

Don’t assume we well informed citizens have been manipulated and duped by the corrupt criminal. That is your liability.

Project 2025 is a creation of the Heritage Foundation, they are not the GOP. They are a separate conservative think tank. They do not speak for the GOP nor Trump.

The members include 16 former Trump administration officials. They are well connected. And if Trump is oblivious to what they intend to implement if he’s elected then he is not taking the job seriously.

 

[Shaul]

@Shaul said:
"Project 2025 is a creation of the Heritage Foundation, they are not the GOP. They are a separate conservative think tank. They do not speak for the GOP nor Trump."

From AP: Who is the new RNC?
Michael Whatley, a North Carolina Republican who has echoed Trump's false theories of voter fraud, was elected the party's new national chairman in a vote Friday morning in Houston. Lara Trump, the former president's daughter-in-law, was voted in as co-chair. Mar 8, 2024

And so....?

 

[Shaul]

The facts heavily support such an opinion.

So you say to support your biased opinion.

 

[F1fan]

Of course there could be. It could certainly be a matter of opinion. Including a biased opinion.

Trump lies about everything, even things that are factually incorrect. You can’t excuse him in any way. They guy lies. He is still lying about the 2020 election. It’s laughable.

With the measure you judge others you shall be judged.

Liars aren’t judged. They are liars. Their integrity collapses to the degree they lie. Trump has zero integrity.