Pogo
Well-Known Member
I don't think so, some people want the lead in gasoline back because freedumb of choice.
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The People's Republic of New York once again tells businesses what they can and cannot do.
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
People's Republic of New York just to be accurate.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
But your big point is about hotels don't want to do it. How they shouldn't be forced to do things they don't want to do.
When the fact of the matter is, the vast majority already do it right now as we speak.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I don't see anything accurate about it.
You certainly haven't articulated why it's accurate anywhere around here.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Well yes given that we have and have always had a Republican form of government.
Your point?, you think you should be King?
A republic, based on the Latin phrase res publica ('public affair'), is a state in which political power rests with the public through their representatives—in contrast to a monarchy. Representation in a republic may or may not be freely elected by the general citizenry.
Do you think everyone doing whatever they want is workable in large populations?
Pogo
Well-Known Member
At what cost?
McBell
Unbound
Are you trying to use the "peoples republic" part as an insult of some sort?
Is it an attempt to make it sound more 'governmenty'?
Please be so kind as to explain why the "people republic" part is so important to you.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
New York had and still has an extensive love affair with Marxism and Communism going back as far as the 1800s if not earlier that still thrives to this day. Even inspiring Trotsky during his visit in New York and the subsequent Bolshevik Revolution that followed.
From the 92nd street Y, to the Jefferson School, to the Little Red Schoolhouse, on to Brecht Forum , and of course the DSA boasting 8 (if not more) government representatives actively involved in New York State alone.
Hard to say. How much chaos do you want?
He's trying to make it sound like a Communist dictatorship, like the People's Republic of China.
Yes, big cities are used to diversity, and less disturbed by it than rural monocultures. They're more tolerant and free. Any regulations are designed to protect the health, prosperity and safety of the community and environs.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
A small cone with sprinkles.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is what comes to mind every time I hear about health and safety in wake of regulatory and enforcement measures that typically follows such pronouncements.
"Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety". Benjamin Franklin
"He who gives his freedom for safety gets none of them". Thomas Jefferson
Do you recommend dictating which political parties or ideologies should be permitted to seek attention from the electorate? Would you permit government to disallow any political activity outside of just Republican or Democrat? (Or perhaps even narrower, Republican and right-leaning Democrat?)
I was under the impression that you get tumescent only over "liberty." Have I misunderstood?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I recommend calling out political parties for what they are and who they accept as their members. The rest is just you.
Um, political parties tell you who they are -- they have these things called "platforms." Then it's up to you and me whether we want to vote for them. Not good enough for you?
As to calling out members, do you think that every club you join should publish your name as a member? Would the state benefit from that? You think it would be good to go back to a McCarthy-esque demand, "are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the communist party?" You don't think anyone has the right to that much privacy?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Such transparency would be wonderfully nice wouldn't it?
Particularly if you're in an office where you affect the lives of hundreds and even millions of people by the stroke of one's pen.
McCarthy had the right idea but his problem at the time was that everybody was in cahoots, and technically to a degree he was right all this time now that we are seeing so many openly come out of the political closet, and with of course the entire party itself welcoming those people with open arms and not a single word of protest or calls of removal.
Welcome to the new normal of not having the same party that my grandfather had where things in those days would have been very different.
Holy Mackerel! I didn't know you had it so bad. Who was the last Communist elected President who could make such change with "the stroke of one's pen?" I don't seem to remember that.
But I should tell you, your grandfather -- whichever party he had -- couldn't possibly have had the one you have now. It didn't exist then.
So no restrictions on polluting air or water with industrial waste -- or plastic? No restriction on environmental degradation? No testing or regulation of food or drugs? No prohibitions of theft or extortion? No building or safety codes? No labor laws? No requirement of expertise in trades?
Perfect license? This is the utopia conservatives expect from small government and free trade?