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The Perfect Law
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Aldrnari
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I feel those are all admirable qualities; ones that I admire from christians i know and work with every day. I just wish the ones who spoke loudest would exhibit those traits as well, but that seems to be a completely different story, in my experience...
Hell, just the other day I had some random guy at the ferry terminal (with a very confederate headband, heh) trying to proselytize at me, and when I tried to get away from him and told him I wasn't interested, he still was talking at me and followed me a ways. Not the first time this month.
socharlie
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not really...
the passage doesn't indicate anything necessary above that.
socharlie
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nothing is necessary above it, imo.
sorry, i misunderstood. i though you had an expecation of more.
The passage is about the perfect law of liberty. Liberty is freedom.
My "moral" guideline, not from any code, it's just how I feel about things, is to be as little of an impediment to others as possible. It's fine to help folks along as long as your not getting in their way.
Of course we can't completely avoid it, but I try to limit it as much as possible.
The problem I have with the golden rule is the assumption of others wanting to be treated the same as you wanting to be treated. I may not want to be treated how you want to be treated.
So I see the passage as being correct. Just not the correlation to the "golden rule".
There can always be a higher moral standard; morals keep evolving consciously throughout life.
In my opinion.
love is liberating, or liberating
The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" And let the one who hears say, "Come!" Let the one who is thirsty come; and let the one who wishes take the free gift of the water of life.
so you believe there is, or might be, something higher, greater than love?There can always be a higher moral standard; morals keep evolving consciously throughout life.
In my opinion.
Love is 7th dimensional, 11th dimension is Unconditional love, and is the realm of Heaven; above them is wisdom at the 12th dimension, as we near the Source.
In my opinion.
Not always. Sometimes love can be possessive.
that love is one directional. that is self love taken to it's polarity.
friendship is two directional, with both parties creating a bond of one.
friendship is two bodies being of ONE mind.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I would say compassion, and empathy create love, and are greater laws.
To deserve and give deserve is also a great law.
That to me are two laws of life.
Honestly I think the most successful societies seek to limit power, and protect against corruption. Humanity deals in negative law, not necessarily positive law.
And the more successful they are, the greater the chance for compassion and empathy to flourish. From that flows freedom.
To deserve and give deserve is also a great law.
That to me are two laws of life.
Honestly I think the most successful societies seek to limit power, and protect against corruption. Humanity deals in negative law, not necessarily positive law.
And the more successful they are, the greater the chance for compassion and empathy to flourish. From that flows freedom.
Sure, I just don't know that I see love as the ideal motivator.
I suppose what motivates me is curiosity. The freedom to explore those things I'm curious about.
Love, ok as long as it doesn't get in the way.
To love someone enough to not interfere with their choices. To set them free of your own needs.
Truthseeker
Non-debating member when I can help myself
In addition to that we need justice, because we can't love everybody.
yes, love is not indifferent to the disenfranchised, marginalized, and oppressed. but there is nothing wrong with philadelphia but there is an expectation of laodicea.
that is what most of the ten commandments are, negatives. they don't incorporate understanding of why thou shall not.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
I have a problem with the bible. It should make clear, concise sense, and should leave nothing to debate. It should be well balanced with positive motivations.
Yet the bible speaks to human beings as wretches. I don't believe all humans are wretched. Evil is not a given, as common as it is, people can choose elsewise, and often do.
unfortunately a book, let alone a person, cannot make clear concise sense to a person who comes from a different point in space/time. the jain parable of the ten blind sages and the elephant explains this well.
show 10 people the same thing and none of them will see it exactly the same way. they will all focus on similarities and some nuances will arise.
take all 10 and put them together and you get a better picture of what was seen and experienced.