The Problem with Internet Porn

[Subduction Zone]

Maybe reading this will help you understand how pornography desensitizes it’s users,
National Review: Getting Serious On Pornography

Author: ANONYMOUS

'Nuff said.

 

[Shaul]

Author: ANONYMOUS

'Nuff said.

Really? There are obvious reasons why the author chose to remain anonymous. But the point was to help with understanding of how the paradigm of desensitization with pornography use happens, which the article does describe. That the author remains anonymous doesn’t change nor invalidate that description. Nor does it keep it from helping others understand that syndrome.

 

[Shaul]

Really? Then where are the statistics that support this claim. All I have ever seen are a few anecdotes from the religious that rue their past actions.

Unsupported claims are worthless in a debate once evidence is demanded. Find some reliable sources. That means not religious sources that are extremely biased.

Fine, let’s start with one harm pornography use causes, sexual dysfunction, with evidence from a non-religious source. Here is a link from the National Institutes for Health which describes the link between pornography use and sexual dysfunction,
Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports

 

[Subduction Zone]

Really? There are obvious reasons why the author chose to remain anonymous. But the point was to help with understanding of how the paradigm of desensitization with pornography use happens, which the article does describe. That the author remains anonymous doesn’t change nor invalidate that description. Nor does it keep it from helping others understand that syndrome.

And there is no reason to believe someone that can't stand behind his work. It is a worthless anecdote, nothing more. Why even post such drivel? It indicates desperation on your part.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Fine, let’s start with one harm pornography use causes, sexual dysfunction, with evidence from a non-religious source. Here is a link from the National Institutes for Health which describes the link between pornography use and sexual dysfunction,
Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports

Better, but that does not really support your claim. Some men have a problem with watching to much pornography and it may be affecting their relationships with others. But the cure appears to be rather easy for those men:

" Clinical reports suggest that terminating Internet pornography use is sometimes sufficient to reverse negative effects, underscoring the need for extensive investigation using methodologies that have subjects remove the variable of Internet pornography use."

 

[Subduction Zone]

Meanwhile this article covers several studies into porn and found that it lowers the rate for sex crimes and can have positive effects for couples:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/.../201001/pornography-beneficial-or-detrimental

Many tools can be abused. That some abuse pornography does not automatically make porn bad. And it appears there are more positive effects than negative ones.

 

[Shaul]

And there is no reason to believe someone that can't stand behind his work. It is a worthless anecdote, nothing more. Why even post such drivel? It indicates desperation on your part.

Very well, if you prefer, here is a link to a report by the National Institutes for Health which also describe the desensitization process using pornography has for its users, Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports
It is fully documented and has the imprimatur of authorities in their fields who willingly stake their own credibility on the results.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Very well, if you prefer, here is a link to a report by the National Institutes for Health which also describe the desensitization process using pornography has for its users, Is Internet Pornography Causing Sexual Dysfunctions? A Review with Clinical Reports
It is fully documented and has the imprimatur of authorities in their fields who willingly stake their own credibility on the results.

That is the same study that you already referred to. It only shows rather minor problems for some men that can often be ended by not watching porn. You have totally failed to demonstrate any serious problems from porn.

 

[Shaul]

Better, but that does not really support your claim. Some men have a problem with watching to much pornography and it may be affecting their relationships with others. But the cure appears to be rather easy for those men:

" Clinical reports suggest that terminating Internet pornography use is sometimes sufficient to reverse negative effects, underscoring the need for extensive investigation using methodologies that have subjects remove the variable of Internet pornography use."

So you accept that sexual dysfunction is a by product of pornography use but want to quibble about its degree.

Then there is pornography’s impact on relationships. Using pornography double its user’s likelihood of getting a divorce, Researchers Explore Pornography's Effect On Long-Term Relationships
Divorce is certainly a negative, and pornography use increases its occurrence.

 

[Shaul]

That is the same study that you already referred to. It only shows rather minor problems for some men that can often be ended by not watching porn. You have totally failed to demonstrate any serious problems from porn.

So? You asked for a non-anonymous description of the desensitization. It does both that AND describes the sexual dysfunction. It happens to cover both things you were writing about so it applies to both and I referenced it for both separate things. No problem with doing that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

So you accept that sexual dysfunction is a by product of pornography use but want to quibble about its degree.

Then there is pornography’s impact on relationships. Using pornography double its user’s likelihood of getting a divorce, Researchers Explore Pornography's Effect On Long-Term Relationships
Divorce is certainly a negative, and pornography use increases its occurrence.

That is not what I said. You need to debate properly. I said for some men it may be a problem. For far more it appears to be a positive tool. We are not quibbling about degree, we are discussing whether it is a net positive or negative. Currently it appears that porn is a net positive.

 

[Shaul]

That is not what I said. You need to debate properly. I said for some men it may be a problem. For far more it appears to be a positive tool. We are not quibbling about degree, we are discussing whether it is a net positive or negative. Currently it appears that porn is a net positive.

But it isn’t just “some men”. Pornography use can be addictive.
Consider this,
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brain-activity-in-sex-addiction-mirrors-that-of-drug-addiction

So summarizing, pornography causes sexual dysfunction, destruction of relationships through divorce, and is addictive. Of course these are just the beginning. Pornography is evil, as I have written.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But it isn’t just “some men”. Pornography use can be addictive.
Consider this,
http://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/brain-activity-in-sex-addiction-mirrors-that-of-drug-addiction

So summarizing, pornography causes sexual dysfunction, destruction of relationships through divorce, and is addictive. Of course these are just the beginning. Pornography is evil, as I have written.

But it doesn't say that. You need to read the articles that you link. You can't go by just the headline.

That study applies to roughly one out of twentyfive people. People that already have an addictive personality may have trouble with pron. Well duh! If a person has an addictive personality he has to be careful in all walks of life.

 

[Skwim]

Pornography destroys. There are countless millions whose lives have been wrecked by pornography. Consumers of it are certainly damaged, as well as innocent bystanders such as families and loved ones. In addition there are legions of those that produce the product that are hurt, such as those exploited due to sex trafficking, drug use and violence. No, rape doesn’t decrease with increased pornography legalization. The facts don’t bear that out. There is a well established association between rapists and their consumption of pornography. And no, I didn’t just say pornography causes someone to become a rapist. I said that rapists use pornography more than others, which is verifiable. It is true that men aren’t the only users of pornography, but then I never said that either. The widespread use of pornography doesn’t make it a good thing any more than the widespread use of other vices make them good. I have already explained why pornography is evil. Pornography is inherently hedonistic and debasing.

You funny guy. Reading all those religious anti-porn pamphlets and then coming to RF to recite them.

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[Sha'irullah]

I have very negative views on porn and view it as destructive to male sexuality and human normality. I don't think it should be banned or anything but I do believe it should be socially unacceptable.

Last week I was in a massive talk with college buddies about what porn they watch and I had to lie and say that I don't watch porn. It felt embarrassing and awkward that I had to admit to being an immoral person to fit in.

 

[Shaul]

You funny guy. Reading all those religious anti-porn pamphlets and then coming to RF to recite them.

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Um, hello... I haven’t referenced religious pamphlets. I have referenced secular sources.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have very negative views on porn and view it as destructive to male sexuality and human normality. I don't think it should be banned or anything but I do believe it should be socially unacceptable.

Last week I was in a massive talk with college buddies about what porn they watch and I had to lie and say that I don't watch porn. It felt embarrassing and awkward that I had to admit to being an immoral person to fit in.

Watching porn is hardly immoral. You might have been embarrassed since lying to others is usually immoral.

 

[Skwim]

Um, hello... I haven’t referenced religious pamphlets. I have referenced secular sources.

Up to that point, post 38, you had not indicted what, if anything, you were referencing. I took it upon myself to assume you were referencing religious pamphlets because in my opinion it's just the kind of strident pap one would likely read in a religious pamphlet on porn.

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[Subduction Zone]

Um, hello... I haven’t referenced religious pamphlets. I have referenced secular sources.

lately you have used a couple. But none of them said what you thought that they said.

 

[Cacotopia]

My friend August Ames killed herself over morons saying the crap you are saying right now. Yes I know a few porn stars, oooOOOOoooo I must be an evil person, no I don't do porn, but most of them are pretty smart people. And the ones I do and did know were well adjusted people.