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ForeverFaithful

ForeverFaithful

Son Worshiper
If you see a man drowning in the middle of a pool, and you have the resources to save him, you should right?

What if you had it on good authority that man was going to heaven? Why would you prolong his life?

Here's where any idea of an afterlife ruins ethics, how do you justify persevering life? How can you preach on one hand that all aborted babies get a free ticket to heaven and then on the other demand that all babies been given life, so they can choose hell, and if their born to non-christian parents, well sucks to be them.

Have I erred in reason or scripture?
 
james2ko

james2ko

Well-Known Member
ForeverFaithful said:
If you see a man drowning in the middle of a pool, and you have the resources to save him, you should right?

What if you had it on good authority that man was going to heaven?​

Have I erred in reason or scripture?
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What if we had it on good authority that no one has experienced going to heaven so there's a very real possibility the drowning man will not either.

Joh 3:13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven
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ForeverFaithful said:
Here's where any idea of an afterlife ruins ethics, how do you justify persevering life? How can you preach on one hand that all aborted babies get a free ticket to heaven and then on the other demand that all babies been given life, so they can choose hell, and if their born to non-christian parents, well sucks to be them.
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How about physically resurrecting the parents under paradisaic, earthly conditions where Christ and His Saints have been ruling for 1,000 years absent of satan's influence on the people. Cause or allow them to get pregnant with the same children they aborted. After a period of time, both the parents and their adult offspring have to decide whether to accept or reject the One responsible for giving them a second chance at life. Accept His way of life and be transformed to a spirit being and live forever; reject it and get cast into a lake of fire--more commonly referred to as "hell" and cease to exist. Sounds like a plausibly ethical plan to me :D
 
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InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
I am not a christian, but since I was raised as one and have done some considerable research on many christian philosophic positions I will give my understanding of the issue. Even if you KNEW he was going to heaven, in the traditional Christian view point the sanctity of life is paramount - therefore you should save him; some might raise issues if for example you had to alter his state in such a way that it might be argued he is not 'alive' (such as life support) however regardless of his destination, if you have the capacity to save him then Christianity holds that you should do so, regardless of the cost to you or anyone else (save for death or perhaps sin, that is a more difficult area in terms of if you could save him but would be required to sin).
 
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hackwrench

New Member
If the person is going to heaven no matter what, I don't see how a delay matters one way or another as to the ethical dilemma of saving him. Variations on an eternity in Hell, however seem much more interesting. Once saved, always saved? Should you save a drowning man destined for Hell and let his evil persist... but even then it isn't as clear-cut black and white as that.
 
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InformedIgnorance

Do you 'know' or believe?
Well given that Christianity holds that only God may make such judgements, it is not a person's place to determine whether or not they should allow another to live or die, that is the sole domain of God. Under that premise, the life must be saved (even if they are an atrociously 'evil' person), as otherwise you must needs make a judgement - something that no person has the authority to do.
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
The difference: we know that water exists.
 
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