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The Reason God Created the Heavens and the Earth

"Allah created the heavens(4760) and the earth for just ends, and in order that each soul may find the recompense of what it has earned, and none of them be wronged." Quran 45.22

According to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward. That is what Paul said about the ressurection.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I'm not sure how to reply to this? Is your thread about the Quran? Or the subject of torture for reward?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
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GoodbyeDave

Well-Known Member
In Hinduism, creation is the play (lilā) of Brahman, a natural outpouring that has been compared to a happy person singing.

Plato argued that a good god would wish to share his creation with those who could enjoy it. Indeed, if there were a single creator with sufficient knowledge and power, it might be said to be the only motive for creation, since such a being wouldn't need to see the end product to know what it would be like, or to attempt the task to see if the result will come up to expectations.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
Gospel of Thomas
Saying 12:
The disciples said to Jesus: We know that you will depart from us; who is it who will be great over us? Jesus said to them: Wherever you have come, you will go to James the Just, for whose sake heaven and earth came into being
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
"Allah created the heavens(4760) and the earth for just ends, and in order that each soul may find the recompense of what it has earned, and none of them be wronged." Quran 45.22

According to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward. That is what Paul said about the ressurection.

No one created the heavens and the earth. You posted from the Quran, are you agreeing with what they say in their scripture?

Are you asking for our opinions on the scripture or your title?

If you speaking against it, maybe religious debates is better than comparative religions
 

arthra

Baha'i
"Allah created the heavens and the earth for just ends, and in order that each soul may find the recompense of what it has earned, and none of them be wronged." ~ Quran 45.22
According to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward. That is what Paul said about the ressurection.

I don't agree with your statement "according to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward." The verse you quote has "just ends" at the end of the first sentence and "none of them be wronged" at the end of the second sentence (in English), so there is nothing about "torture" or "persecution" in that verse.

Also why is the word "resurrection" misspelled?

In my Faith there is a prayer often recited that goes like this:

"Thou hast created me to know Thee and to worship Thee"

So God's love for us is a primary reason for our creation.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
"Allah created the heavens(4760) and the earth for just ends, and in order that each soul may find the recompense of what it has earned, and none of them be wronged." Quran 45.22

According to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward. That is what Paul said about the ressurection.

وَخَلَقَ ٱللَّهُ ٱلسَّمَٰوَٰتِ وَٱلْأَرْضَ بِٱلْحَقِّ وَلِتُجْزَىٰ كُلُّ نَفْسٍۭ بِمَا كَسَبَتْ وَهُمْ لَا يُظْلَمُونَ

The translation should be as follow, Allah created the heaven and the earth by a rule, and every soul will
be rewarded according to its deeds and no one will be wronged.

I can't see persecution and torture in this verse.
 
I don't agree with your statement "according to Islam with persecution and torture we get a greater reward." The verse you quote has "just ends" at the end of the first sentence and "none of them be wronged" at the end of the second sentence (in English), so there is nothing about "torture" or "persecution" in that verse.

Also why is the word "resurrection" misspelled?

In my Faith there is a prayer often recited that goes like this:

"Thou hast created me to know Thee and to worship Thee"

So God's love for us is a primary reason for our creation.
"..: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness,- whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the cause of Allah, or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers, or received any injury(1371) whatever from an enemy: for Allah suffereth not the reward to be lost of those who do good." Quran 9.120
 

arthra

Baha'i
"..: because nothing could they suffer or do, but was reckoned to their credit as a deed of righteousness,- whether they suffered thirst, or fatigue, or hunger, in the cause of Allah, or trod paths to raise the ire of the Unbelievers, or received any injury(1371) whatever from an enemy: for Allah suffereth not the reward to be lost of those who do good." Quran 9.120


Another verse? You may find this translation preferable and easy to understand...

Believers, fear God and stand with the truthful. (119) It was not proper for the people of Madinah and those desert Arabs around them to hold back from following God's Messenger, and to prefer their own lives to his life. This is because whenever they suffer from thirst or weariness or hunger for God's cause, and whenever they take any step which provokes those who deny the truth, or inflicts any loss upon the enemy, it shall be counted as a good deed in the sight of God, God will not deny the righteous their reward, (120) and whenever they spend anything [for the sake of God], be it little or much, and whenever they traverse the land [in God's cause] -- it is recorded to their credit, and God will grant them the best reward for all that they have been doing. (121)

http://tanzil.net/#trans/en.wahiduddin/9:120
 
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