The reasons why Islamic women wear the Veil

[Sabour]

Muslims have been killing other muslims for centuries. Not a great argument against them being a muslim organisation.

Like what the quraan says makes any difference to what muslims are doing in this day and age. What muslims are doing in this day and age is what islam IS in this day and age.

I am happy that your aunt lives in a progressive part of the islamic world. However that does not mean that women are not being forced to do so in other areas. That does not mean they are not being mistreated in other areas. That does not mean women are being beaten, raped, killed and if they are lucky, only imprisoned.

Instead of making excuses for the systematic oppression of a good 50% of the population in certain parts of the muslim world, you should be railing against it as we are.

Where is your compassion? Where is your empathy?

And anyone killing a person it is as if he killed the whole of humanity. Do you know the source of that statement? The Quraan.

Being a muslim is defined by what Quraan tells you to do and by your heart. Not by what you say you are.

I am not making excuses. The deal is that some people are forcing women and oppressing women while majority is not.

Which of them is the true Islam?

Well surely the ones who are forcing and oppressing... Why? because if fits the way you want to see Islam.

 

[Looncall]

The point is that everything Allah asks us to do is for our benefit and has the reasons. Take eating pork and its effect on the health for example.

And about reducing the risk of getting rape, this is not the main reason perhaps, but actually it does.

Not eating pork makes sense only in fuel-poor places like deserts.

Convincing muslim men that muslim women are not livestock would be more effective in preventing rape than any garment.

 

[Sabour]

They won't ask, especially in these cultures, because they don't care and then the women might have an argument that men will have to cover themselves up too... you know, for their protection.

Lol..... As if we are in the age where we still ride donkeys. I wounldn't be surprised if anyone does think that about Islam.

 

[Sabour]

Not eating pork makes sense only in fuel-poor places like deserts.

Convincing muslim men that muslim women are not livestock would be more effective in preventing rape than any garment.

Women are precious and respected by men in Islam. They are not livestock.

 

[gnostic]

I am sure you know that we believe that Quraan is the word of Allah revealed to our prophet through the angel Gabriel who is referred in the bible as the holy spirit when he came to Mary.

I'm confused by this above quote.

Who do you think is the Holy Spirit? Allah, Gabriel or Muhammad?

 

[gnostic]

Women are precious and respected by men in Islam. They are not livestock.

Are you really sure about?

Recently, a woman divorced his abusive husband, and ran away to Lebanon. Eventually she met someone she fell in love with, but her ex-husband accuse her of being adulteress. Now she has being arrested by stupid Muslim police and face a trial over adultery.

Both her ex-husband and the stupid Muslim court are treating her like a criminal as well as livestock.

The Islamic legal system has failed women, and that mean the Quran has failed to protect woman from false allegation, because she is a "woman". Her words mean less than a man, and it has always being so.

 

[TashaN]

I'm confused by this above quote.

Who do you think is the Holy Spirit? Allah, Gabriel or Muhammad?

As a matter of fact, holy spirit in the bible refer to different persons, not necessarily a specific one. Sometimes it refer to Gabriel, sometimes to Mohamed, and sometimes according to Christians, to God.

 

[TashaN]

Are you really sure about?

Recently, a woman divorced his abusive husband, and ran away to Lebanon. Eventually she met someone she fell in love with, but her ex-husband accuse her of being adulteress. Now she has being arrested by stupid Muslim police and face a trial over adultery.

Both her ex-husband and the stupid Muslim court are treating her like a criminal as well as livestock.

The Islamic legal system has failed women, and that mean the Quran has failed to protect woman from false allegation, because she is a "woman". Her words mean less than a man, and it has always being so.

How exactly did she divorce him? they were divorced legally or she simply told him she is divorcing him then ran away?

 

[Sabour]

I'm confused by this above quote.

Who do you think is the Holy Spirit? Allah, Gabriel or Muhammad?

Gabriel.

He was the angel of revelation. He also was the one to tell Mary that she will be having Jesus peace be upon him.

 

[outhouse]

If the men are barbaric in some places of the world, I think it is good that you cover up and hide the beauty of women, if the men cannot control themselves.

Its a shame this primitive behaviour is even tollerated in this modern age.

 

[outhouse]

Gabriel.

He was the angel of revelation. He also was the one to tell Mary that she will be having Jesus peace be upon him.

Any chance you could EVER speak of anything historical?

 

[Sabour]

If the men are barbaric in some places of the world, I think it is good that you cover up and hide the beauty of women, if the men cannot control themselves.

Its a shame this primitive behaviour is even tollerated in this modern age.

Men are proving that they can't control themselves in every part of the world.

 

[outhouse]

Men are proving that they can't control themselves in every part of the world.

That does not adderess what I posted.


Some places cannot treat women with respect and equality.

 

[Estro Felino]

How do ugly chicks fit into your equation?

well, any woman can beautify herself and become desirable. Of course there are women who are less pretty than other ones.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

The tragedy is that only ugly men rape women.
I guess that any normal woman would like to be raped by Brad Pitt, Jake Gyllenhal or Ewan Mc Gregor

 

[Sabour]

The tragedy is that only ugly men rape women.
I guess that any normal woman would like to be raped by Brad Pitt, Jake Gyllenhal or Ewan Mc Gregor

Lol.

I bet you some do not like to get raped even by their heroes

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Gabriel.

He was the angel of revelation. He also was the one to tell Mary that she will be having Jesus peace be upon him.

Gabriel is not referred to as the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God.

 

[Sabour]

Gabriel is not referred to as the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God.

That came the stand point after trinity was forced into Christianity.

 

[Estro Felino]

Lol.

I bet you some do not like to get raped even by their heroes

well...yes I was exaggerating. By the way women have a vagina. They are not asexual

 

[Sabour]

well...yes I was exaggerating. By the way women have a vagina. They are not asexual

Thanks for the info