The religion of the original Israel seems to have gotten lost?

[Spiderman]

Do you really think that calling God a serial killer and terrorist is going to endear you to theists? I'm sure @Jayhawker Soule not the only person to put you on ignore. I think you can be an atheist and discuss why you don't believe in God without using deliberately inflamatory language.

I'm pointing out why there are errors written in a book, that does say God essentially killed everyone but Enoch and Elijah.

Over something no father who loves his children should chastize them severely for. And something almost everyone suffering from it, are not guilty of.

I am far from an atheist. I pray to and ask the Bible God to stop victimizing to world, and I try to console, heal, and bless those he victimized in the world of the dead.

I would confidently bet I pray more than most clergy . What made you think I'm an atheist?

 

[Spiderman]

There are lots of reasons one could put @Spiderman on ignore. I no longer respond to him except on very rare occasions, like to tell him that contrary to his understanding the tetragrammaton does not mean “I am“ because, inter alia, it is third person. I do want, however, to keep an eye on him. That is why I don’t place him on ignore. I have mentioned to others in the past, perhaps to you as well, Matt has been quite open about his mental issues. I always keep in mind the source when I read one of his posts.

I don't remember "I am" not being a meaning for Yahweh. It's in the translations most people believe, as well as in artwork, and songs.

So, bottom line, the book has lead perhaps billions to believe it.

And most of what I say in the op can be verified in scripture, the atrocities, with the exception of apple being "forbidden fruit"

I'm simply defending those who feel victimized and see a monster constantly victimizing Israel in that book.

And how the original Israel fought with God and won. And most translations the average person reads says "Israel means Contender with God"

I was explaining My belief that His (Jacob/Israel) spirituality was originally female dominant, to defend why I pray the rosary, or invoke saint Philomena, or various women who have died tragically (and I'm sick of people telling me that such practices are satanic, and I'm pointing out it is nothing atrocious, unlike the God of some of the Bible.

I always mention, some of the most beautiful words of wisdom is in the bible, some of the greatest poetry + inspiration. I think it is good to know scripture. But, I believe more than one spirit inspired it.

If I see all obvious evidence of an imposter and murderer, deceiving the people, conditional love and terror that is not love at all (claiming to be "love, slow to anger, rich in mercy") hardening hearts, creating unnecessary civil wars and bigotry, (all of which is attributed to the God of scripture) should I not be upset about such an entity?? fooling people into believing he is the only spirit worthy of worship, or even a friend??

I believe I am defending a more true and innocent God than that , who isn't a war criminal. And very hurt watching the world go after and worship the author of death, who creates monsters and demons, let's them tempt and destroy us, creates us to shame and abuse us, leave us feeling like he isn't there.

Such a human would be put on trial. More should be expected from an entity billions worship and many kill for with blind obedience to something written...

I think we as believers are not addressing some things that need to be addressed to fix some problems that violent , toxic religious groups are causing.

 

[YoursTrue]

I'm pointing out why there are errors written in a book, that does say God essentially killed everyone but Enoch and Elijah.

Over something no father who loves his children should chastize them severely for. And something almost everyone suffering from it, are not guilty of.

I am far from an atheist. I pray to and ask the Bible God to stop victimizing to world, and I try to console, heal, and bless those he victimized in the world of the dead.

I would confidently bet I pray more than most clergy . What made you think I'm an atheist?

This shows me that while God made life for the earth, including humans, He gives life and can take it away.

 

[Spiderman]

This shows me that while God made life for the earth, including humans, He gives life and can take it away.

He also divides and confuses the humans he claims to love, his book leaves many people live petrified of them or their loved one who committed suicide or died outside of grace, spending eternity wailing and gnashing their teeth in torment, shame, guilt, despair, hopelessness, sheer and constant terror+ horror that will never end

If he knew such people before they were born, and was not a total sadist, he would mercifully prevent that from happening, not create total monsters who are blind and dead spiritually, chronically afflicted with appetites to hurt people, tormented by hatred etc...

I understand Jews and some Christians and Muslims reject the eternal torture belief, but the new testament says the words that convict most Christians (and the church that decided what the first Christian Bible would look like. There was no new testament Canon before christianity became the religion of the Roman empire.

People thought the gospel of Thomas and many eyewitness accounts were scripture , but didn't know, and disagreed. Most Christians then were illiterate. The first Christians were not Bible Christians. But I have read the writings of some of the more influential ones, before christianity became the religion of the Roman empire.

They were preaching mainly the same things about eucharist, praying for the intercession of Mary, pilgrimages to tombs of Saints and martyrs, that we are connected as one body of Christ...

Some of them I pray, get control of the household and possessions of the one misusing them, for the worst crimes of cruelty and homicide done by anyone, and give it to those who are worthy, altruistic, ...
...and Godfather goes to rehab, gets set free of his addiction to bullying . Scripture says "God is love, love is kind, love is not puffed up, love is not jealous, love bears all things"...I do not blaspheme that God. That scripture alone eliminates the possibility that a loving God inspired all of the scriptures, because no one demonstrates the extreme opposite description of love, in the Bible, than God.

The best thing that could happen, is the mass murderer would repent of what he has done, (creating people and monsters just to torture them on earth, confuse them, destroy dreams, not be there for them when they pray to get better...

...I have met a homosexual person who tries to live at monasteries, begging God to heal him of this "disorder", that his religion says is an abomination.

He gave me his bible that he reads thoroughly. I see all the lines underlined, the notes...a person very eager to know God, very lonely, because he knows God will not approve of him getting married to a man, and it would not work with a female.

But the problem is, God gives his people disorders, demons, confusion, curses, wars, plagues, famine,, and hides himself , creates homosexuals I came to realize, that have been begging God to make them straight.

God could do so, he could not let demons move around the world tempting people, and he doesn't. So, it appears he wants evil. Isaiah 45 says "I create evil , I the Lord do these things".

And he creates destructive sexual appetites. I am not ever tempted to find sexual gratification with another man, but the Lord has, thanks be to God, given me two sexually transmitted diseases, for acting out (while drinking) with female partners, to warn me to stop ( or he will give me permanent worts or herpes), before getting one that won't go away.

I realize, unchaste sexual appetites are very selfish, very destructive when acted out (even among heterosexuals who believe it is love, foretaste of heaven). It leads to many abortions, that leave a mother traumatized and feeling like a murderer, because Christians say it is homicide.

Tell me, Why does God form unwanted babies in the wombs of mothers that he knows will get an abortion? If The baby/fetus serves no purpose, but to scare, traumatize, the mom, and fund abortion clinics?

If God doesn't like abortion, why is he creating so much to fund the abortion industry , (with human sacrifices ) needed for the abortion doctor to stay employed with that vocation? God is the chief supporter of the abortion industry.

If God was pro life, he would give babies only to mothers who want them, (which would make all the abortion clinics close down)...
... and who will actually offer the baby love, possibly a life that isn't total hell (like the average unwanted pregnancy abandoned at the ER , or growing up without loving biological parents.).

God clearly prefers evil (imho). I think a world of happy , enlightened, loving, responsible, peaceful people, would be far too boring for him. We exist for his entertainment, and to serve him, suffer, die, often not receiving what he promises in return (in this life)

I hope and there be justice in the next.

 

[YoursTrue]

He also divides and confuses the humans he claims to love, his book leaves many people live petrified of them or their loved one who committed suicide or died outside of grace, spending eternity wailing and gnashing their teeth in torment, shame, guilt, despair, hopelessness, sheer and constant terror+ horror that will never end

If he knew such people before they were born, and was not a total sadist, he would mercifully prevent that from happening, not create total monsters who are blind and dead spiritually, chronically afflicted with appetites to hurt people, tormented by hatred etc...

I understand Jews and some Christians and Muslims reject the eternal torture belief, but the new testament says the words that convict most Christians (and the church that decided what the first Christian Bible would look like. There was no new testament Canon before christianity became the religion of the Roman empire.

People thought the gospel of Thomas and many eyewitness accounts were scripture , but didn't know, and disagreed. Most Christians then were illiterate. The first Christians were not Bible Christians. But I have read the writings of some of the more influential ones, before christianity became the religion of the Roman empire.

They were preaching mainly the same things about eucharist, praying for the intercession of Mary, pilgrimages to tombs of Saints and martyrs, that we are connected as one body of Christ...

Some of them I pray, get control of the household and possessions of the one misusing them, for the worst crimes of cruelty and homicide done by anyone, and give it to those who are worthy, altruistic, ...
...and Godfather goes to rehab, gets set free of his addiction to bullying . Scripture says "God is love, love is kind, love is not puffed up, love is not jealous, love bears all things"...I do not blaspheme that God. That scripture alone eliminates the possibility that a loving God inspired all of the scriptures, because no one demonstrates the extreme opposite description of love, in the Bible, than God.

The best thing that could happen, is the mass murderer would repent of what he has done, (creating people and monsters just to torture them on earth, confuse them, destroy dreams, not be there for them when they pray to get better...

...I have met a homosexual person who tries to live at monasteries, begging God to heal him of this "disorder", that his religion says is an abomination.

He gave me his bible that he reads thoroughly. I see all the lines underlined, the notes...a person very eager to know God, very lonely, because he knows God will not approve of him getting married to a man, and it would not work with a female.

But the problem is, God gives his people disorders, demons, confusion, curses, wars, plagues, famine,, and hides himself , creates homosexuals I came to realize, that have been begging God to make them straight.

God could do so, he could not let demons move around the world tempting people, and he doesn't. So, it appears he wants evil. Isaiah 45 says "I create evil , I the Lord do these things".

And he creates destructive sexual appetites. I am not ever tempted to find sexual gratification with another man, but the Lord has, thanks be to God, given me two sexually transmitted diseases, to warn me to stop ( or he will give me permanent worts or herpes), before getting one that won't go away.

I realize, unchaste sexual appetites are very selfish, very destructive when acted out (even among heterosexuals who believe it is love, foretaste of heaven). It leads to many abortions, that leave a mother traumatized and feeling like a murderer, because Christians say it is homicide.

Tell me, Why does God form unwanted babies in the wombs of mothers that he knows will get an abortion? If The baby/fetus serves no purpose, but to scare, traumatize, the mom, and fund abortion clinics?

If God doesn't like abortion, why is he creating so much to fund the abortion industry , (with human sacrifices ) needed for the abortion doctor to stay employed with that vocation? God is the chief supporter of the abortion industry.

If God was pro life, he would give babies only to mothers who want them, (which would make all the abortion clinics close down)...
... and who will actually offer the baby love, possibly a life that isn't total hell (like the average unwanted pregnancy abandoned at the ER , or growing up without loving biological parents.).

God clearly prefers evil (imho). I think a world of happy , enlightened, loving, responsible, peaceful people, would be far too boring for him. We exist for his entertainment, and to serve him, suffer, die, often not receiving what he promises in return (in this life)

I hope and there be justice in the next.

Please excuse but I rarely read long posts because it's too much to digest. Taking this one step at a time, in reference to your first thoughts above, I will say this: I was raised in a certain religion but saw lots of different religions around me. I really did not understand why there were so many different religions. That being said, when Israel was formed thousands of years ago (after Abraham's offspring were freed from Egypt), the nation very often still did not recognize who God really was, or why they should stay close to Him. I hope this makes sense to you so far, @Spiderman . I'd love to comment on more of your post, but as I said, I usually take one or two thoughts at a time. So perhaps we can focus even on the early nation of Israel such as with Saul and David.

 

[Spiderman]

But, I want a loving, benevolent leadership in heaven. And I believe letting control of Yahweh's household and possessions go to a loving, compassionate regime, that will not let devils confuse, torture, and tempt us, is a possibility to pray for.

An omnipotent, omnipresent, loving God has never been offered to the world or Israel (just read the Bible and obvious war crimes and genocide+ threats and abuse of his bride Israel, are all there)...

But I believe that God can step down, be rehabilitated, learn how to put love and compassion into practice, learn how to be a friend, father, and spouse of Israel and humanity

And offer a Messiah who fulfills all of the prophecies of what the messiah is supposed to be. I believe it is possible, and worthwhile to pray for.

Israel fought with God and won, held on to God when God said "let me go", and knocked his hip out of socket...
..
and Israel (means Contender with God. Fighter with God) said I will not let you go until you bless me (my will comes before yours. Give me what I want or I will not let go of you"...)

God said, "you have fought with God and won, your name is now Israel, meaning contender with God ".

Israel stole the greatest blessing in scripture from the most annointed man on Earth, a blessing that was earned from the hard work of his loyal, favorite son Esau.

Israel had loyalty to a woman, it was her ideas of how he could steal the blessing while his twin was out hunting, because his father's eye sight was dimming, and Rebecca got him drunk with his favorite wine... that made it a success. Her ideas and work.

She Cooked Isaac's favorite dish , and told Jacob to present her work and claim it was his . Dress up and smell like his twin, back from hunting game. And she said "let the curse of Jacobs sin be on me not on him" (a female Messiah , acting a sacrificial lamb, a shield for Jacob to be fearless as he contended with God by stealing the greatest blessing that was earned through the merits of the favorite son of God's most annointed.

I believe it was more than Jacob that won the fight with God, but the divine feminine, a loving altruistic mother who would sacrifice anything for a child she loves, take his curse upon herself. Not victimize those she loves, but a display of love without conditions, making herself a shield for him, taking the curse and punishment for his sins upon herself.

That was the original religion of Israel, how he defeated God, and disrespectfully said "no, I will not let you go" (until you give me what I demand).

And that religion of Israel can save humanity by putting love in control of heaven, and not let demons tempt us...not afflict us with dangerous, unhealthy appetites.

The world has not been offered a loving God. And I pray, Jacob, Israel, and the victimized women in heaven, with Rebecca (The God of Jacob), who have the hearts of mothers who are tender, unconditional love, compassionate, will offer us true love, true God, true friends from heaven that we can count on.

And I want Yahweh to be happy. Just please stop torturing people and stirring up violence and religious bigotry + terrorism and disasters. Yahweh would not do that if he were happy, free, had good mental health.

 

[Spiderman]

Please excuse but I rarely read long posts because it's too much to digest. Taking this one step at a time, in reference to your first thoughts above, I will say this: I was raised in a certain religion but saw lots of different religions around me. I really did not understand why there were so many different religions. That being said, when Israel was formed thousands of years ago (after Abraham's offspring were freed from Egypt), the nation very often still did not recognize who God really was, or why they should stay close to Him. I hope this makes sense to you so far, @Spiderman . I'd love to comment on more of your post, but as I said, I usually take one or two thoughts at a time. So perhaps we can focus even on the early nation of Israel such as with Saul and David.

I will respond shortly

 

[1213]

Yes. He sentenced us to die over forbidden fruit. Even if it wasn't an apple. Same point. You and I would not be dying, and there would not be wars, murders, confusion, or dangerous doctrines brainwashing such a large quantity of the world . Had Adam and Eve not eaten the forbidden fruit.

That is like saying, "I burned my hand, because I put it on fire, it is the fire inventors fault that I burned my hand". People should take responsibility of their own actions and not blame others for their own mistakes.

A good parent does not murder their children for disobedience.

Murder is unlawful killing. God is not in any case murderer, because He has given life and therefore has the right to decide how long life He gives. (Humans don't give life, humans only procreate).

It was peoples own choice to reject God. And I think a good parent lets his kids go, if they so want. Luckily God has shown a road back to Him and so dead is not the end.

 

[Spiderman]

Please excuse but I rarely read long posts because it's too much to digest. Taking this one step at a time, in reference to your first thoughts above, I will say this: I was raised in a certain religion but saw lots of different religions around me. I really did not understand why there were so many different religions. That being said, when Israel was formed thousands of years ago (after Abraham's offspring were freed from Egypt), the nation very often still did not recognize who God really was, or why they should stay close to Him. I hope this makes sense to you so far, @Spiderman . I'd love to comment on more of your post, but as I said, I usually take one or two thoughts at a time. So perhaps we can focus even on the early nation of Israel such as with Saul and David.

Keeping in mind you don't like long posts....This is a long post, but not all of it is for you.

I live in Saint Paul. Who was called Saul....like King Saul. Paul is the Latin equivalent for Saul. Saint Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, as was King Saul.

King David was actually never supposed to be King. The Prophet Sam was supposed to pick a king, and the Dynasty had to be with the tribe of Benjamin, the son of Jacob's right hand. It was suppossed to be an eternal dynasty from the tribe of Benjamin.

The Sin of Saul, destroyed that, but David, Man after God's own heart, did things worse in my opinion. In ways that killed a very holy man to avoid him finding out he got his wife pregnant. And pestilence that killed tens of thousands, and civil wars in his kingdom, it seemed like a bigger disaster than Saul. But David had noble qualities as well, repented very well, had virtues that Saul did not.

Queen Esther descended from the unfit King Saul, (tribe of Benjamin, wolf, Jacob's right hand) whose failure caused the eternal Kingdom to be replaced by a king from the Lion tribe of Judah (David...man after God's own heart). However, the suicide , King Saul, gave us a Messiah as well.

A female , Queen Esther, his descendent. She converted a King with Dictator power, who was as antisemetic as Adolf Hitler. He was going to have a more thorough holocaust than Nazi Germany. He didn't want them fed or taken to camps, just every Jewish/Hebrew man, woman , and child , was to be put to the sword , the gallows, fed to lions, or other execution....(a thorough, quick, 100% extermination).

Queen Esther, after fasting and doing harsh penances, humbling herself to the dust, went forth to greet the King at a time she was not permitted, told him that she had been deceiving him, that the name Esther was to hide her Hebrew identity , that she was an orphan essentially selling herself to him for political power.

Still, he admired her courage, loved her more than any Iranian woman, made her Queen of Iran, hung her enemy Haman ( hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai.), and the King gave the Queen possession of the military and government, to kill as many Iranians as she felt were a threat to her people. His desire for killing every Jew in the Persian Empire, switched to the extreme opposite, by the love, the courage, the priceless treasure he saw in one Hebrew woman (Savior).... an orphan, not following God's laws, rewarded for breaking them, to stop an extermination, and vanquish antisemetism. In the region by law and in many hearts.

More than 2,000 years later, today, Iran is the biggest threat to Israel, but the only first world, wealthy, Muslim theocracy, where the law is supposed to protect synagogues and houses of prayer, + Persian Jewish communities , only because of Queen Esther. There would be as many Synagogues in Iran as there are in Saudi Arabia, (none) were it not for Queen Esther, and the love that many Iranian Muslims still have for her.

She inspired a man from her country (Iran) named Cyrus, to conquer Babylon, and build the temple, end captivity of Jews in all the lands he occupied, in the biggest Empire that had existed up until then. In Isaiah 45, Yahweh calls Cyrus "My messiah, the anointed one (christ), "although you do not know me, I will give you knowledge, hiden secrets, powers, and victories that I have never given to anyone".

But there would have never been any Cyrus , the Messiah the Jews accepted, that Yahweh verified as Messiah (who fulfilled prophecies about what the Messiah is supposed to do, that even Jesus did not fulfill), without Queen Esther. So, she truly was a Messiah, from the tribe of Benjamin.

I can share with you why I feel the Messiah actually would more resemble Cyrus than Jesus, even if Jesus did fulfill prophecy, and Cyrus was not a lamb of God , suffering servant, whose blood atoned for sin....but the other prophecies of the Messiah, my reasonings for Queen Esther and Cyrus being far greater peacemakers, something the average person would be drawn to more than Jesus. My hope comes more from them, and the tribe of Benjamin over Judah.

@RabbiO wonders if I should be in a straight jacket , but I have faith one day Rabbi, maybe 100 years from now, you will believe, know, any doubts you have in my sincerety, are false (even if you don't care) truth will come out in a way that it is total clarity, obvious, and people can read my soul for , know what my intentions are.... that it is out of compassion I say these things, that it is love for Israel and the Jewish People, my interactions with the tribes,....
.... Rachel's tears Jeremiah 31:15 Thus saith the Lord: “A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping; Rachel, weeping for her children, refused to be comforted for her children, because they were no more.” Rachel is depicted , in the world of the dead, in art work she is surrounded by martyrs, criticisizing yahweh as having less virtue than herself (and most people).....Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin. God multiplied women's labor pains so it was very common
.... and more .....that tells me there is very toxic, abusive words , crimes against Israel, and the lord expressing desire to exterminate over 99% of his people (worse than third reich) for not trusting, fear, lack of faith....right after he told them how much he loved them, and killed a bunch of Egyptian children and babies to show it ....
I believe I have encountered Jacob, Israel, Rebecca, Queen Esther, living in spirit, weaving destiny, interceding, fighting to get control of heaven, restrain the wrath of a monster.... many heroes from scripture, and that salvation is from the Jews...
(But Israel means "Contender with God, and that will be how they save the world).... after my Dad's kidnap of us to raise us illegally in another country, my mom got custody, we were raised in a Jewish household, stars of David, Menorah candles, ceremonies and songs in hebrew, the greetings for hello, good by, peace be with you, was

Shalom! etc. Mom and my sister and step dad primarily kept Shabbot. I admire the lighting of the candles friday night, and the hebrew , very musical moments , celebrations for times in biblical history where Yahweh was faithful....I was sometimes....argumentative....

But, I do not believe Israel (Jacob) or ancient spirits that love Israel would want Jews to follow the God who inspired some of those abusive , harsh, violent words, threats, terror, or killing 70,000 of them with pestilence, because David took a census God didn't like.
ANd Yahweh caused civil wars for David's sin. David said "why don't you just kill me? Why do you punnish these people who are not guilty. I am the guilty one"!

Many verses in Scripture have made it unsafe to be a Jew, difficult to assimilate, fuel terrorist organizations ( century after century), scriptures mostly in the Old Testament fuel antisemitism, act like the killing of the prophets is something more likely among Jews.

It hurts more to be accused of antisemitism from those I love, those i would most like to see help Jacob and Rebecca offer the world the true God.

I can see, it's hard to explain, Jacob / Israel, in his devotion to the right woman, in his defeating the enemy God.... He had it.

"And I shall bless those blessing you, and those cursing you I shall curse, and in you and in your seed all the generations of the Earth shall be blessed." Genesis 12:3
I obviously fervently believe that. And have studied Jacob "Contender, fighter with God". ... have insight about it. ..... see a false God leading Jacob's descendants , claiming to be the one who loves them, the only one, with behavior that shows the extreme opposite.

I thank Israel for my faith. It's what I live by. Altruism. I thank Rebecca, Queen Esther, and many of the females who died tragically that I buy flowers for, votive candles, try to avoid sin ( to please them..).they are certified Rebeccas, helping steal for me blessings, stay out of trouble, contender with God for the right reasons... hopefully help them get more power over his household, possessions, grace, and powers (like Queen Esther or Joseph controlling Egypt more than Pharaoh, who was theologically God to the Egyptians. Joseph was a slave and ex convict from prison. Controlling their God. Sun, moon, and stars knelt before Joseph..

My surname is an alternative for Jack, Jacob. I am in debt. They speak through coincidence, locution, dreams, pentecostal moments....

I would be dead without it. And I want Yahweh happy and non abusive, not tempted with genocide , pride, jealousy, or bullying someday. Much of scripture is breathed by a good spirit. Jerusalem is mentioned roughly 600 times...a woman with abundant breasts, milk of comfort, who will play with you, in Jerusalem you shall find your comfort. Isaiah 66....That is how you know the same spirit did not inspire the Quran, because Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Quran....If a man has a love and attachment for a woman for that many centuries, even if she gets a restraining order, or they break up, there is a bind, and he will talk about her, because they were one and she became a part of him through centuries of Divine sacramental, matrimony bind.
So, he didn't inspire the Quran. Many spirits, claiming to be God, Yahweh, Allah.... And I hope and pray they all be redeemed someday.And the abusive ones who kill children, get help!

 

[Spiderman]

That is like saying, "I burned my hand, because I put it on fire, it is the fire inventors fault that I burned my hand". People should take responsibility of their own actions and not blame others for their own mistakes.

Murder is unlawful killing. God is not in any case murderer, because He has given life and therefore has the right to decide how long life He gives. (Humans don't give life, humans only procreate).

It was peoples own choice to reject God. And I think a good parent lets his kids go, if they so want. Luckily God has shown a road back to Him and so dead is not the end.

No. You are saying, and the bible is saying, "Adam and Eve ate forbidden fruit. And we should all feel like we deserve to suffer for their sins".

Maybe God needs to take accountability that the worst human father would not kill this many humans over forbidden fruit. He should have never laid that snare or created that snake to tempt her.

Isaiah 45 says "I create evil, I the lord do these things". SCripture says "God repented of the evil he planned on doing to Israel".

I'm saying we should look beyond such a book, and beyond such a God that the book says clearly is the serial killer with the highest kill count, the war criminal guilty of the worst war crimes , and the terrorist responsible for the most terrorism

but he says "I am God, so it is not crime, it is perfect justice. Worship me or be afflicted with misfortune, or burn in hell. ... And , blessed are they who are humble and forgiving."

does he have multiple personality disorder?

 

[YoursTrue]

Keeping in mind you don't like long posts....This is a long post, but not all of it is for you.

I live in Saint Paul. Who was called Saul....like King Saul. Paul is the Latin equivalent for Saul. Saint Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, as was King Saul.

King David was actually never supposed to be King. The Prophet Sam was supposed to pick a king, and the Dynasty had to be with the tribe of Benjamin, the son of Jacob's right hand. It was suppossed to be an eternal dynasty from the tribe of Benjamin.

The Sin of Saul, destroyed that, but David, Man after God's own heart, did things worse in my opinion. In ways that killed a very holy man to avoid him finding out he got his wife pregnant. And pestilence that killed tens of thousands, and civil wars in his kingdom, it seemed like a bigger disaster than Saul. But David had noble qualities as well, repented very well, had virtues that Saul did not.View attachment 93593View attachment 93595View attachment 93596

Queen Esther descended from the unfit King Saul, (tribe of Benjamin, wolf, Jacob's right hand) whose failure caused the eternal Kingdom to be replaced by a king from the Lion tribe of Judah (David...man after God's own heart). However, the suicide , King Saul, gave us a Messiah as well.

A female , Queen Esther, his descendent. She converted a King with Dictator power, who was as antisemetic as Adolf Hitler. He was going to have a more thorough holocaust than Nazi Germany. He didn't want them fed or taken to camps, just every Jewish/Hebrew man, woman , and child , was to be put to the sword , the gallows, fed to lions, or other execution....(a thorough, quick, 100% extermination).

Queen Esther, after fasting and doing harsh penances, humbling herself to the dust, went forth to greet the King at a time she was not permitted, told him that she had been deceiving him, that the name Esther was to hide her Hebrew identity , that she was an orphan essentially selling herself to him for political power.

Still, he admired her courage, loved her more than any Iranian woman, made her Queen of Iran, hung her enemy Haman ( hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai.), and the King gave the Queen possession of the military and government, to kill as many Iranians as she felt were a threat to her people. His desire for killing every Jew in the Persian Empire, switched to the extreme opposite, by the love, the courage, the priceless treasure he saw in one Hebrew woman (Savior).... an orphan, not following God's laws, rewarded for breaking them, to stop an extermination, and vanquish antisemetism. In the region by law and in many hearts.

More than 2,000 years later, today, Iran is the biggest threat to Israel, but the only first world, wealthy, Muslim theocracy, where the law is supposed to protect synagogues and houses of prayer, + Persian Jewish communities , only because of Queen Esther. There would be as many Synagogues in Iran as there are in Saudi Arabia, (none) were it not for Queen Esther, and the love that many Iranian Muslims still have for her.

She inspired a man from her country (Iran) named Cyrus, to conquer Babylon, and build the temple, end captivity of Jews in all the lands he occupied, in the biggest Empire that had existed up until then. In Isaiah 45, Yahweh calls Cyrus "My messiah, the anointed one (christ), "although you do not know me, I will give you knowledge, hiden secrets, powers, and victories that I have never given to anyone".

But there would have never been any Cyrus , the Messiah the Jews accepted, that Yahweh verified as Messiah (who fulfilled prophecies about what the Messiah is supposed to do, that even Jesus did not fulfill), without Queen Esther. So, she truly was a Messiah, from the tribe of Benjamin.

I can share with you why I feel the Messiah actually would more resemble Cyrus than Jesus, even if Jesus did fulfill prophecy, and Cyrus was not a lamb of God , suffering servant, whose blood atoned for sin....but the other prophecies of the Messiah, my reasonings for Queen Esther and Cyrus being far greater peacemakers, something the average person would be drawn to more than Jesus. My hope comes more from them, and the tribe of Benjamin over Judah.

@RabbiO wonders if I should be in a straight jacket , but I have faith one day Rabbi, maybe 100 years from now, you will believe, know, any doubts you have in my sincerety, are false (even if you don't care) truth will come out in a way that it is total clarity, obvious, and people can read my soul for , know what my intentions are.... that it is out of compassion I say these things, that it is love for Israel and the Jewish People, my interactions with the tribes,....
.... Rachel's tears Jeremiah 31:15 Thus saith the Lord: “A voice was heard in Ramah, lamentation and bitter weeping; Rachel, weeping for her children, refused to be comforted for her children, because they were no more.” Rachel is depicted , in the world of the dead, in art work she is surrounded by martyrs, criticisizing yahweh as having less virtue than herself (and most people).....Rachel died giving birth to Benjamin. God multiplied women's labor pains so it was very common
.... and more .....that tells me there is very toxic, abusive words , crimes against Israel, and the lord expressing desire to exterminate over 99% of his people (worse than third reich) for not trusting, fear, lack of faith....right after he told them how much he loved them, and killed a bunch of Egyptian children and babies to show it ....
I believe I have encountered Jacob, Israel, Rebecca, Queen Esther, living in spirit, weaving destiny, interceding, fighting to get control of heaven, restrain the wrath of a monster.... many heroes from scripture, and that salvation is from the Jews...
(But Israel means "Contender with God, and that will be how they save the world).... after my Dad's kidnap of us to raise us illegally in another country, my mom got custody, we were raised in a Jewish household, stars of David, Menorah candles, ceremonies and songs in hebrew, the greetings for hello, good by, peace be with you, wasView attachment 93598Shalom! etc. Mom and my sister and step dad primarily kept Shabbot. I admire the lighting of the candles friday night, and the hebrew , very musical moments , celebrations for times in biblical history where Yahweh was faithful....I was sometimes....argumentative....

But, I do not believe Israel (Jacob) or ancient spirits that love Israel would want Jews to follow the God who inspired some of those abusive , harsh, violent words, threats, terror, or killing 70,000 of them with pestilence, because David took a census God didn't like.
ANd Yahweh caused civil wars for David's sin. David said "why don't you just kill me? Why do you punnish these people who are not guilty. I am the guilty one"!

Many verses in Scripture have made it unsafe to be a Jew, difficult to assimilate, fuel terrorist organizations ( century after century), scriptures mostly in the Old Testament fuel antisemitism, act like the killing of the prophets is something more likely among Jews.

It hurts more to be accused of antisemitism from those I love and would most like to see help Jacob and Rebecca offer them the world the true God. I can see, it's hard to explain, Jacob / Israel, in his devotion to the right woman, in his defeating the enemy God.... had it.

"And I shall bless those blessing you, and those cursing you I shall curse, and in you and in your seed all the generations of the Earth shall be blessed." Genesis 12:3
I obviously fervently believe that. And I have studied Jacob "Contender, fighter with God". I have insight about it. I see a false God leading Jacob's descendants , claiming to be the one who loves them, with behavior that shows the extreme opposite.

I thank Israel for my faith. It's what I live by. Altruism. I thank Rebecca, Queen Esther, and many of the females who died tragically that I buy flowers for, votive candles, try to avoid sin to please them...they are certified Rebeccas. My surname is an alternative for Jack, Jacob. I am in debt. They speak through coincidence, locution, dreams, pentecostal moments....

I would be dead without it. And I want Yahweh happy and non abusive, not tempted with genocide , pride, jealousy, or bullying someday. Much of scripture is breathed by a good spirit. Jerusalem is mentioned roughly 600 times...a woman with abundant breasts, milk of comfort, who will play with you, in Jerusalem you shall find your comfort. Isaiah 66....That is how you know the same spirit did not inspire the Quran, because Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Quran....If a man has a love and attachment for a woman for that many centuries, even if she gets a restraining order, or they break up, there is a bind, and he will talk about her, because they were one and she became a part of him through centuries of Divine sacramental, matrimony bind.
So, he didn't inspire the Quran. Many spirits, claiming to be God, Yahweh, Allah.... And I hope and pray they all be redeemed someday.And the abusive ones who kill children, get help!





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Wowee. Talk about a long post, I stopped at where you live at. Saint Paul? Is that Minnesota?

 

[Spiderman]

I realize I sound unwell with my many words of bitterness towards the God of Israel. Thing is, that is not the God of Israel, because, if I have a personal relationship with the God of Israel , and scriptures to back it up... what I'm doing is biblical and sound.

The vocation, destiny, job description of Israel was to fight God and win, save the world from his cruelty, and have loyalty to the woman who knows the right strings to pull (which became the God of Israel.

Israel clearly had loyalty, honor, respect, and obedience to a female savior, that got him the blessing and anointing to go forth and fight the false God of Esau and win.

The God of Esau has for a time hijacked what Jacob/Israel/contender with God valued, stood for, and vocation for saving+ blessing the world.

I have never experienced so much rage and anger as when reading scripture, feeling the pain, the fear, terror, humiliation of God's victims, the ridiculous justification Yahweh gives for killing thousands, and tempting brother to kill brother, because of the sin of David or someone, whose sin God uses as justification to kill tens of thousands (who had nothing to do with it.)

But the guilty one who sinned is off the hook, because God murdered thousands of people to atone for it.

People are so blind as they defend that behavior, because God knows best. Justified just because he can work some miracles, claim to be the only one who created the world, the only one worthy of worship, there for his justice is perfect (as we draw nearer to the Apocalypse, blaming everyone but the one who first premeditated the murder of Christ and the prophet's. The creator of evil Isaiah 45.

That simply is not the God of Israel/Jacob, and the practice of Israel was to fight with him, defeat him. And that shall be how we are saved.

Many spirits inspired scripture, many of them wise, virtuous, a great encounter with a moral compass while reading some scripture.

But it could not all be the same mind of the same sentient being inspiring all of the extreme opposite ideas and commands.

If so, that is the most extreme example of multiple personalities disorder, opposite personalities, split personality, ever documented.

God said there is one God. God also said you are God's. Nothing says all truth is in the bible or that the Bible is scripture. I'm defending those who keep getting attacked for practices or supernatural friends that seem unbiblical or Idols, if your book is that contradictory and irrational, don't beat idolators , buddhists, or heretics with it...

... and perhaps their idols or friends in high places, or practices contradicting scripture, is actually them finding a God or Goddess, or saint, who is love, who doesn't threaten, doesn't intimidate, doesn't shame, isn't jealous, sets them free from bondage rather than make it worse.

.... the world is starving for a God who responds clearly when we call upon him, a God who is love, who will set the captives free, guide people to have healthy relationships, make peace, not create monsters, not let demons tempt us, heal us of destructive appetites, sexual disorders, and addictions, and figure out the choices we can make, to reach the most satisfying destiny, make the biggest positive contribution... including an imposter.

The greatest impediment to offering the world that God, who is loving, wise, honest, dependable, is some of what is in in the Bible.

 

[Spiderman]

Wowee. Talk about a long post, I stopped at where you live at. Saint Paul? Is that Minnesota?

Capitol of Minnesota.

 

[YoursTrue]

Capitol of Minnesota.

OK, thanks. Now I think I can go on and read more of your (long) post.

 

[YoursTrue]

Keeping in mind you don't like long posts....This is a long post, but not all of it is for you.

I live in Saint Paul. Who was called Saul....like King Saul. Paul is the Latin equivalent for Saul. Saint Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, as was King Saul.

King David was actually never supposed to be King. The Prophet Sam was supposed to pick a king, and the Dynasty had to be with the tribe of Benjamin, the son of Jacob's right hand. It was suppossed to be an eternal dynasty from the tribe of Benjamin.

OK, yes, now that you mention it, I guess St. Paul (that's how it's usually spelled instead of "Saint Paul," I think) is named after who they usually considered as "Saint" Paul (or originally Saul, as you mentioned). Which now brings up the question in my mind -- how did St. Paul Minnesota get its name? hmm, do you know?

 

[YoursTrue]

I realize I sound unwell with my many words of bitterness towards the God of Israel. Thing is, that is not the God of Israel, because, if I have a personal relationship with the God of Israel , and scriptures to back it up... what I'm doing is biblical and sound.

The vocation, destiny, job description of Israel was to fight God and win, save the world from his cruelty, and have loyalty to the woman who knows the right strings to pull (which became the God of Israel.

Israel clearly had loyalty, honor, respect, and obedience to a female savior, that got him the blessing and anointing to go forth and fight the false God of Esau and win.

The God of Esau has for a time hijacked what Jacob/Israel/contender with God valued, stood for, and vocation for saving+ blessing the world.

I have never experienced so much rage and anger as when reading scripture, feeling the pain, the fear, terror, humiliation of God's victims, the ridiculous justification Yahweh gives for killing thousands, and tempting brother to kill brother, because of the sin of David or someone, whose sin God uses as justification to kill tens of thousands (who had nothing to do with it.)

But the guilty one who sinned is off the hook, because God murdered thousands of people to atone for it.

People are so blind as they defend that behavior, because God knows best. Justified just because he can work some miracles, claim to be the only one who created the world, the only one worthy of worship, there for his justice is perfect (as we draw nearer to the Apocalypse, blaming everyone but the one who first premeditated the murder of Christ and the prophet's. The creator of evil Isaiah 45.

That simply is not the God of Israel/Jacob, and the practice of Israel was to fight with him, defeat him. And that shall be how we are saved.

Many spirits inspired scripture, many of them wise, virtuous, a great encounter with a moral compass while reading some scripture.

But it could not all be the same mind of the same sentient being inspiring all of the extreme opposite ideas and commands.

If so, that is the most extreme example of multiple personalities disorder, opposite personalities, split personality, ever documented.

God said there is one God. God also said you are God's. Nothing says all truth is in the bible or that the Bible is scripture. I'm defending those who keep getting attacked for practices or supernatural friends that seem unbiblical or Idols, if your book is that contradictory and irrational, don't beat idolators , buddhists, or heretics with it...

... and perhaps their idols or friends in high places, or practices contradicting scripture, is actually them finding a God or Goddess, or saint, who is love, who doesn't threaten, doesn't intimidate, doesn't shame, isn't jealous, sets them free from bondage rather than make it worse.

.... the world is starving for a God who responds clearly when we call upon him, a God who is love, who will set the captives free, guide people to have healthy relationships, make peace, not create monsters, not let demons tempt us, heal us of destructive appetites, sexual disorders, and addictions, and figure out the choices we can make, to reach the most satisfying destiny, make the biggest positive contribution... including an imposter.

The greatest impediment to offering the world that God, who is loving, wise, honest, dependable, is some of what is in in the Bible.

(P.S. although I didn't read your entire post yet -- I do believe God Almighty understands our feelings and thoughts and can help us if we ask to understand.)

 

[YoursTrue]

No. You are saying, and the bible is saying, "Adam and Eve ate forbidden fruit. And we should all feel like we deserve to suffer for their sins".

We do suffer regardless. I do not believe there is anyone who does not suffer. Because...we inherit sin. We are all imperfect, prone to mistakes. The only one besides Adam and Eve who was made without sin was Jesus. The difference is that Adam and Eve sinned. Jesus did not.

 

[YoursTrue]

Keeping in mind you don't like long posts....This is a long post, but not all of it is for you.

I live in Saint Paul. Who was called Saul....like King Saul. Paul is the Latin equivalent for Saul. Saint Paul was from the tribe of Benjamin, as was King Saul.

King David was actually never supposed to be King. The Prophet Sam was supposed to pick a king, and the Dynasty had to be with the tribe of Benjamin, the son of Jacob's right hand. It was suppossed to be an eternal dynasty from the tribe of Benjamin.

The Sin of Saul, destroyed that, but David, Man after God's own heart, did things worse in my opinion. In ways that killed a very holy man to avoid him finding out he got his wife pregnant. And pestilence that killed tens of thousands, and civil wars in his kingdom, it seemed like a bigger disaster than Saul. But David had

David suffered for his sin. He loved God from his youth on up, and yes, made mistakes. God did forgive him. Now the question is: would Bathsheba's first husband, the one David had killed, forgive him in the resurrection? It would probably take time for him to forgive David, but if he wants God's blessing, he will need to. I believe David will be not just repentant, because he was repentant when the sin was brought to his attention by the prophet, but he will also be asking for Uriah's forgiveness.

 

[Spiderman]

(P.S. although I didn't read your entire post yet -- I do believe God Almighty understands our feelings and thoughts and can help us if we ask to understand.)

I will ask for understanding.

Saint Paul was originally called "Pig's eye", because the first European to settle here , had an eye patch, beneath it, an eye resembling the eye of a pig.

Locals called the area “Pig's Eye Landing” based on Parrant's popular tavern. His “Pig's Eye Tavern” flourished, but in 1840 he was evicted by soldiers from nearby Fort Snelling. In 1849, the Minnesota Territory was formalized and shortly thereafter, the areas known as “Pig's Eye Landing” was renamed to Saint Paul.

A French priest became very influential in the region, after the soldiers evicted him, and asked for it to be named after Apostle Paul.

 

[Spiderman]

David suffered for his sin. He loved God from his youth on up, and yes, made mistakes. God did forgive him. Now the question is: would Bathsheba's first husband, the one David had killed, forgive him in the resurrection? It would probably take time for him to forgive David, but if he wants God's blessing, he will need to. I believe David will be not just repentant, because he was repentant when the sin was brought to his attention by the prophet, but he will also be asking for Uriah's forgiveness.

I believe King David has asked Uriah for forgiveness. I don't think the God of David has remorse for what he did.

If so, I forgive him, but think something has to change, including him, and there should be others who exercise more control of his omnipotent house, powers, grace, and some new universal laws of altruism and justice that Yahweh binds himself by oath to become laws that even he is not capable of breaking, even in a fit of rage when he changes his mind.

Something like that would show true remorse, if he was taking steps to make sure it doesn't keep happening.