The Self

[Kemble]

The Doors of Perception,

Who really knows. One better idea of the self is as a center of "narrative gravity" or a fiction that is always created after the fact to tie memories together. So when you pull back to your immediate, first-person perceptions it's not there until the experience becomes memory and the thought "who's experiencing this?" gets the ball rolling on making up this felt sense of separateness from the experience. So the self seems very linguistically dependent. I doubt it is worthwhile to try to "lose" it either.

 

[atanu]

limited conditioned consciousness

Yes. But the fun, IMO, is that the 'limitation' is also made of consciousness.

 

[Iti oj]

The Doors of Perception,

Who really knows. One better idea of the self is as a center of "narrative gravity" or a fiction that is always created after the fact to tie memories together. So when you pull back to your immediate, first-person perceptions it's not there until the experience becomes memory and the thought "who's experiencing this?" gets the ball rolling on making up this felt sense of separateness from the experience. So the self seems very linguistically dependent. I doubt it is worthwhile to try to "lose" it either.

I like this, where did you derive at.thia. perhaps to links for.more reading?

 

[Kemble]

I like this, where did you derive at.thia. perhaps to links for.more reading?

Yep; there's a good article titled "The Self as a Center of Narrative Gravity" I think by Daniel Dannet if you search by google -- the 15 minimum posts rule doesn't let me link it here.

Anything really up-to-date in neuroscience, philosophy of mind, or linguistics.