The Suella Braverman Problem

[Hermit Philosopher]

Firstly; what on earth went wrong in this person’s upbringing?

Secondly; how can we prevent it from occurring to anyone else?

Thirdly; is there a cure for their person or are they permanently damaged?

I hear that we are obsessed with reality tv shows. How about one where Braverman and a refugee family are flown out to a deserted island and picked up 40 days later? I’d watch!

There must be a cure.

 

[exchemist]

Firstly; what on earth went wrong in this person’s upbringing?

Secondly; how can we prevent it from occurring to anyone else?

Thirdly; is there a cure for their person or are they permanently damaged?

I hear that we are obsessed with reality tv shows. How about one where Braverman and a refugee family are flown out to a deserted island and picked up 40 days later? I’d watch!

There must be a cure.

Or Rwanda, even......

 

[Altfish]

Fourthly, how did the UK sink so low that the PM thinks she is the best person for the job.

Despicable woman

 

[exchemist]

Firstly; what on earth went wrong in this person’s upbringing?

Secondly; how can we prevent it from occurring to anyone else?

Thirdly; is there a cure for their person or are they permanently damaged?

I hear that we are obsessed with reality tv shows. How about one where Braverman and a refugee family are flown out to a deserted island and picked up 40 days later? I’d watch!

There must be a cure.

What sticks in the throat with her, and Ugli Patel is the same, curiously, is that their parents benefitted from being allowed to immigrate to Britain but now they, far from showing understanding as to why others might want to do the same thing, are intent on pulling up the ladder and stamping on their fingers.

 

[ratiocinator]

Firstly; what on earth went wrong in this person’s upbringing?

She's a Tory?

Seriously, I don't know. I think it's basically party policy to stoke up culture wars (it worked for them when they lied their way to Brexit) and being really nasty to desperate asylum seekers, fleeing war and persecution seems to be a part of that. The UK doesn't take nearly their fair share but they lie and lie again about how we're being overwhelmed because of the numbers, where any real problems are due to government incompetence.

They talk about stopping the people smugglers - they could do that easily by setting up a proper, efficient legal way for people to claim asylum from other countries or get safe passage to do so here.

It's all rather sickening.

 

[exchemist]

Fourthly, how did the UK sink so low that the PM thinks she is the best person for the job.

Despicable woman

The explanation for that is simple, I'm afraid. Sunak has been told by his Australian election strategy adviser, Isaac Levido, that "stop the boats" worked in Oz and will work here too. He does not want to sully his hands with rabble-rousing xenophobia but he wants the Tory party to do a bit of that. So he needs someone to do the dirty work and Braverperson is happy to oblige. (She also serves as a way to keep the Swivel-Eyed Racist wing of the Tory party on-side, as they suspect Sunak of being a dangerous socialist.)

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

What sticks in the thorat with her, and Ugli Patel is the same, curiously, is that their parents benefitted from being allowed to immigrate to Britain but now they, far from showing understanding as to why others might want to do the same thing, are intent on pulling up the ladder and stamping on their fingers.

Marginal-man-syndrome: the idea that assimilating the values of your oppressors, may “save” you.

Where I lived in the 80’s there was a young adopted, black man, who so badly wanted to be accepted by his local neo-nazi peers, that he shaved his head, bought the symbolic outfit of the times (bomber jacket, DM’s and white laces) and castrated himself!

 

[RestlessSoul]

All my life I’ve been subjected to scaremongering from the UK media about the dangers of far left infiltration of the Labour Party. Even with Jeremy Corbyn as party leader, this never really happened; Corbyn was nothing if not a believer in democracy. So I find it rather ironic that I have lived to witness a far right coup in the Conservative Party, who are now become a blue UKIP.

 

[Yerda]

All my life I’ve been subjected to scaremongering from the UK media about the dangers of far left infiltration of the Labour Party. Even with Jeremy Corbyn as party leader, this never really happened; Corbyn was nothing if not a believer in democracy. So I find it rather ironic that I have lived to witness a far right coup in the Conservative Party, who are now become a blue UKIP.

The people invested in the current shambles will burn everything to the ground to avoid it being fixed.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Fourthly, how did the UK sink so low that the PM thinks she is the best person for the job.

Despicable woman

Well, it's not like UK governments and PM's are renowned these days for astuteness or insight or being familiar with public opinion or caring about it anyway or caring at all about stuff or humanity or awareness or...(etc etc etc etc etc).

 

[JIMMY12345]

Firstly; what on earth went wrong in this person’s upbringing?

Secondly; how can we prevent it from occurring to anyone else?

Thirdly; is there a cure for their person or are they permanently damaged?

I hear that we are obsessed with reality tv shows. How about one where Braverman and a refugee family are flown out to a deserted island and picked up 40 days later? I’d watch!

There must be a cure.

Tim Marshall wrote a good book "Divided by Walls" All countries have strict immigration controls (including India and the Gulf states).Most immigrants are escaping from hell. No jobs or back braking jobs and famine and wars. It is understandable they want a life. We are a democracy with some in favour of allowing immigration and some opposed. We have to acknowledge both views. There are limits on good housing healthcare and welfare. So though not a solution compromise is a step forward. Only allow LEGAL immigration otherwise genuine refugees who have gone through the correct channels will be queue jumped by desperate people who take their rightful place.
If one view prevails eg unrestrained immigration there will be a backlash by the far right when harsh economic cyclic times hit.This is not good for democracy.