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The Supreme Court will decide if Donald Trump can be kept off 2024 presidential ballots

Subduction Zone

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I am only saying I live in Texas to show that I probably have more of an understanding of the issues of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (only type of immigration and immigrants I'm talking about, but now I'm repeating myself) than some people have.

I am not discussing people who are here legally. Only people who are here illegally. So I am not "treating two separate groups as if they are one and the same." They are not one and the same. Maybe you are treating them as if they are one and the same, I don't know.
You have treated them as one and the same in regards to the recent crisis. The shift to more refugees than migrant workers started under Trump. It only got slightly worse under Biden.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
You have treated them as one and the same in regards to the recent crisis. The shift to more refugees than migrant workers started under Trump. It only got slightly worse under Biden.
No, I most definitely have not. But you're seeing what you want to see, I guess. I don't know why but I don't care either.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That'd be par for the course. Biden blamed Trump for everything, and still does most of the way through his own first term. Obama blamed Bush for everything too.
At least Trump will start repairing the damage Biden has caused--rather than just leaving it be and blaming biden.
No, he didn't. He only blame Trump for what he did poorly. For example whose fault was the recent inflation? Biden did not blame Trump, though the cause of it started under his administration and he appears to have have done more of the spending that caused it than Biden did. But again, that does not make it Trump's fault and I never saw Biden blame him for that. What is ironic is that many Republicans foolishly blame Biden for the inflation, and do not give him credit for the cure that his administration put into effect.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
They're called whatever they want to be called. If they say the word "asylum" when confronted by Border Patrol, they're then called asylum seekers, regardless of their true intent.
It's doubtful any of them tell BP that they're here to smuggle drugs into the country, or do human trafficking, or commit a terrorist attack, or rape and kill women.
Then blame Trump for stopping us from processing them more quickly. That was part of the fix. Once again, that is by US law. And the President cannot get rid of US law by himself. He can only say how money is spent.

Please pay attention, under US law a person seeking asylum does have the right to a hearing. They are legal until then. If you stop spending money on hearings all that you are doing is extending the time of those that would fail at their attempts for asylum and be kicked out from the country. The current immigrant problem is now due to Trump. He stopped what would be a fix. Think about it, the Democrats will almost surely have one house of Congress if not two. And they would still have the power of the filibuster in the Senate even if hey lose both houses. Do you think that they are likely to make a deal when the Republicans went back on theirs?
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I am only saying I live in Texas to show that I probably have more of an understanding of the issues of ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION (only type of immigration and immigrants I'm talking about, but now I'm repeating myself) than some people have.

I am not discussing people who are here legally. Only people who are here illegally. So I am not "treating two separate groups as if they are one and the same." They are not one and the same. Maybe you are treating them as if they are one and the same, I don't know.
I bet you can see Mexico from your house.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
Interesting talking point.
It is, it was Trump, his co-conspirators, and the MAGA mob that caused the attack on the Capitol with hopes Trump coukld some how end up staying president. That effort failed, and thousands are going to jail.
He wasn't charged with anything until announcing that he was running for office. Until that point, he was a media darling. He would still have been, had he run as a democrat.
He knew the charges were coming and announced his run way before is customary. Some believed he was hoping that his plan to run would prevent indictments. It didn't.

And whatever else liberals could get away with charging him for, correct? Fancy Wills certainly thought so, and is having to face the music for it.
Grand juries were presented evidence and they decided the charges.

That'd be par for the course. Biden blamed Trump for everything, and still does most of the way through his own first term. Obama blamed Bush for everything too.
At least Trump will start repairing the damage Biden has caused--rather than just leaving it be and blaming biden.
What damage did Biden cause? Do you mean the stable government that has allowed the stock market and economy to both steadily rise? The econ omy loves stability, and Biden has been an expert in creating effective and stable governing. And the inflation rate is athe lowest among the first world countries, and that is a success.

Wjhat does Trump offer on the national and domestic stage exept more uncertainty and instability, just like the man.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Irrelevant.

The phrase "illegal alien" is respectable. I'm sure conservatives shortened this phrase to one word for it's discriminating and demeaning power, preferring "illegals" as if they are subhuman. Of course conservatives want to dehumanize all migrants, and this is why they are all referred to as "illegals". This is to exploit the emotions of the immature, poorly inflormed, and often racist conservative base. Even migrants who have filed for asylum are demeaned and referred to as illegals. No wonder why republicans keep losing elections.
@F1fan

Are you watching the SOTU?

Biden, your hero, just referred to some migrants as ILLEGALS.

Let me quote him...
"Laken Riley killed by an illegal"

He did not say illegal aliens.. He point blank said illegals!

That piece of racist ****. You should not vote for him.

Lmmfao
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
@F1fan

Are you watching the SOTU?

Biden, your hero, just referred to some migrants as ILLEGALS.

Let me quote him...
"Laken Riley killed by an illegal"

That piece of racist ****. You should not vote for him.

Lmmfao
Some migrants are illegal aliens. Many are not. In fact it does appear that there are more refugees than migrants these days. And not even all migrants are illegal. If the person that did the crime was an illegal alien there is nothing wrong with using that phrase. It i s when one call all migrants illegal that one is being a racist.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No thanks. Moving far enough north in a few weeks, to Ohio.
I hear that it almost gets cold there in the winter. I always have to laugh at Ground Hog Day. They think that only six more weeks of winter is bad news there. When I was a kid that would mean that spring was a month early.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I hear that it almost gets cold there in the winter. I always have to laugh at Ground Hog Day. They think that only six more weeks of winter is bad news there. When I was a kid that would mean that spring was a month early.
Hey, I am moving from an area that gets about an inch of snow a year to one that gets around 20 inches of snow a year. Cold enough for me!
 
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