The Teachings of J. Krishnamurti

[keith_Thornton]

Hello,

I would like to ask if anyone else has heard of Jiddu Krishnamurti. I am interested in determining how well known he is in religious circles.

Thanks,
keith

 

[china]

JK ;does not tell what to do but tells you how to inquire with in yoe the urself .
After all that's where the truth is.

 

[zenzero]

Friend keith,

The Teachings of J. Krishnamurti
Hello,

I would like to ask if anyone else has heard of Jiddu Krishnamurti. I am interested in determining how well known he is in religious circles.

Thanks,
keith

What is a religious circle? and who makes them?
Are you studying his consciousness or the extent of his influence?
Whatever be that you are studying, what is its importance for you and for others?

Love & rgds

 

[zenzero]

Friend china,

JK ;does not tell what to do but tells you how to inquire with in yoe the urself .
After all that's where the truth is.

Kindly share what ever you can about JK, shall be glad to learn.

Love & rgds

 

[dogsgod]

I've heard of him, I have one of his books, The First and Last Freedom.

 

[zenzero]

Friend dogsgod,

Kindly share what you have understood about his message from the book
*The first and Last Freedom*

Love & rgds

 

[ericoh2]

Glad to see Krishnamurti brought up in this forum. When I started looking beyond Christianity he was one of the earliest influences on me. I have his books: the First and Last freedom, Commentaries on Living, The book of Life and also a bio written about him called "Two Birds on one Tree." I especially enjoy his Commentaries on Living Series as it is very beautiful and poetic. As someone commented in the thread earlier, his only real teaching is that of self inquiry and observation. He stressed that it is the very "striving" and "desire" that we have that keep us from freedom/truth, whether it be for money or for so called "spiritual" achievements. He certainly seemed to have a very deep genuine understanding of the nature of life.

 

[Sunstone]

Kindly share what ever you can about JK, shall be glad to learn.

Zenzero, It seems Krishnamurti advocated direct, unmediated observation or awareness of life. That is, observation unmediated by an observer -- by an "I". He did not, however, believe there was a path or technique to unmediated awareness.

May I suggest reading this?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Hello,

I would like to ask if anyone else has heard of Jiddu Krishnamurti. I am interested in determining how well known he is in religious circles.

Thanks,
keith

Hi keith_Thornton, J. Krishnamurti was 'discovered' as a child by a Charles Leadbeater and taken from his parents to be 'groomed' by he and Annie Besant of the Theosophical Society in India to be the World Saviour/Messiah through a cult like organization called "Star of the East".

When it he failed to manifest the miraculous powers expected of the Messiah, he parted company with the Theosophical Society and began his career as a lecturer on his personal understanding on Advaita Vedanta. Many TS members followed him and so he had considerable support in this new venture.

Here is a link to a critical view of his teaching and work from an esoteric perspective. Alpheus--Krishnamurti: An Esoteric View of his Teachings

Personally have read most of his books and was a subscriber to the Krishnamurti Foundation in my younger days. His 'teaching' got me started in meditation, but ultimately found out there is much more to it than ever thought possible.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Sunstone,

Thank you for that.
The idea of my query to friend dogsgod was to discuss and bring Krish's ideas in the open.
Am well aware of his methods which is basicaly intellectual understanding or *GYAN YOGA*.
Am also aware of how he was brought up by Annie Besant and Leadbeater to declare him to be Christ reborn etc. but on D day Krish turned the tables, however the stories are unimportant except that he was enlightened person and showed the way for others which again though was not new as far as human knowledge went but just that he turned that dharma wheel to clear few cobwebs that keeps coming on anything stationary.
Love & rgds

 

[Sunstone]

The idea of my query to friend dogsgod was to discuss and bring Krish's ideas in the open. Am well aware of his methods....

I strongly suspected that, but I still didn't want to take the risk that you had by some crazy fluke of life never heard of him.

What do you think of his teachings, Zenzero? Are they worthwhile to study?

 

[zenzero]

Friend Sunstone,

Have already mentioned.
Reality is that, no one is teaching anyone anything.
Existence is giving each individual various pointers from all directions in life to bring about the awareness in him that he is not a separate individual but a part of that whole.
However most keep missing those posts and try and find answers from others and again those others have picked up from another set of others and the journey goes back to few unknown meditators or early humans who were innocent to realise that each one is part of that whole.

There are various methods or ways / paths / religion and each one just has to follow that comes or matches the individual's nature for some GYAN YOGA or intellectual understanding is one and that is what Krishnamurty had understood and propagated.

Since you are an intellectual individual; am sure you could those pointers to reach that innermost part which like the layers of an onion is *emptiness*.

Friend Sunstone, am willing to discuss any part of any of his books if it needs clarification. [only those that concerns the way/path].

Love & rgds

 

[Sunstone]

Friend Sunstone, am willing to discuss any part of any of his books if it needs clarification. [only those that concerns the way/path].

Love & rgds

Thanks. I'll probably take you up on that after I've read a bit more of him.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Sunstone,

Best Wishes.
You will find his e-books for free download at:
Jiddu Krishnamurti free Books, free J Krishnamurti Ebooks Krishnamurti Books

Love & rgds

 

[K.Venugopal]

Our words come from words and lead to more words. K's words came from silence and lead to silence. It is difficult to pin point a particular technique that he advocated because he only spoke about the essence. He simply wanted us to observe, any which way, and assured us that in that observation we would be reborn untainted by memories – we would have learnt to live in the here and now.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Venu,
Yes, and that WAY to that silence is through complete UNDERSTANDING or knowledge and that is GYAN in Sanatan Dharma.
So the WAY can be termed GYAN YOG.
Love & rgds

 

[dogsgod]

Friend dogsgod,

Kindly share what you have understood about his message from the book
*The first and Last Freedom*

Love & rgds

I would have to refresh my memory, it's been a while since I read it. What I do recall, minus the details, was his criticism of religion which I too would be critical of and so in agreement with him, but when he would offer his own religion in summary, I would find myself remaining critical.

 

[zenzero]

Friend dogsgod,

I would have to refresh my memory, it's been a while since I read it. What I do recall, minus the details, was his criticism of religion which I too would be critical of and so in agreement with him, but when he would offer his own religion in summary, I would find myself remaining critical.

No one offers anything exclusively created by him. An individual is only a medium for others to receive those pointers towards consciousness.
One can be critical only when he understands the subject or the object or else criticism remains just hollow words.
Love & rgds

 

[dogsgod]

The religion he belonged to, or identified with.

 

[zenzero]

Friend dogsgod,

The religion he belonged to, or identified with.

You missed the point.
One does not belong to a ladder.
Religion is only a path a way to know the *SELF* and when one realises that there is no *I* then the religion or the way is of no relevance.
So Krishnamurthy or any enlightened individual never belongs to any religion.
Jesus never belonged to Christianity rather it is his followers that stated Christianity.

Love & rgds