The Ten Commandments: Step 2

[Pogo]

Will teaching the Bible in public school make Christians safer?
Is the Constitution not governing law for the whole country?
Will OK become unsafe for Muslims, atheists, Hindus, etc?
If OK can make itself a Christian state, would Dearborn MI be
able to make itself an Islamic city...a "safe space" for Muslims?

We can do our own version of Balkanizatiion, it worked so well a century ago.

 

[Revoltingest]

We can do our own version of Balkanizatiion, it worked so well a century ago.

So many people fail to consider the broader
consequences of what they advocate.

 

[fantome profane]

At least there will be safe spaces Christians will want to move to

I thought it was only leftist snowflakes who wanted safe spaces.

But if the happens history tells us what will follow. These "Christians" will waste no time in discriminating against other "Christians". It will be the Protestants saying the Catholics are not real Christians, and both of them will hate the Mormons. And then it will be the Southern Baptists against the regular Baptists etc.

 

[Viker]

We can do our own version of Balkanizatiion, it worked so well a century ago.

Just ignore that little blip in the 1990s.

 

[Pogo]

So many people fail to consider the broader
consequences of what they advocate.

There are also some like @Balthazzar who are in favor of creating ghettos for anybody who is not sufficiently like them.

 

[Balthazzar]

There are also some like @Balthazzar who are in favor of creating ghettos for anybody who is not sufficiently like them.

What's a "ghetto"?

 

[Pogo]

What's a "ghetto"?

I think I understand your ignorance of history rather better now.

The original definition of "ghetto" refers to a segregated area where marginalized groups, particularly Jewish people, were forced to live. It has a historical connection to racial discrimination and oppression. -

 

[Balthazzar]

I think I understand your ignorance of history rather better now.

The original definition of "ghetto" refers to a segregated area where marginalized groups, particularly Jewish people, were forced to live. It has a historical connection to racial discrimination and oppression. -

Ohh, you mean like what we call the "bottoms" in my area. I never viewed it as a racial discrimination area, but rather I viewed it as a place where similar people and families resided. I may as well have been partially raised in the ghettos.

Yes, I gave you a loaded question.

At least I'm being honest now.

I apologize for willfully misleading you. Thank you for your definition, though.

 

[Balthazzar]

Since we have Salem as a historical reference, we should teach about witchcraft (from actual witches)..... seeing how it's of significant impact/influence on world and American history.

Will you be converting others, or will the honor mom and pops principle and study be expected to show ourselves approved by the Christian fold? As an academic, I might be interested, but as a practice and being taught I might decline. I don't think mom would be so enthused about me trying to learn witchcraft from just anyone.

 

[Pogo]

Ohh, you mean like what we call the "bottoms" in my area. I never viewed it as a racial discrimination area, but rather I viewed it as a place where similar people and families resided. I may as well have been partially raised in the ghettos.

Yes, I gave you a loaded question.

At least I'm being honest now.

I apologize for willfully misleading you. Thank you for your definition, though.

Well then you rather missed this part of the definition. "marginalized groups, particularly Jewish people, were forced to live."
It does not refer to a voluntary association.

 

[Balthazzar]

Well then you rather missed this part of the definition. "marginalized groups, particularly Jewish people, were forced to live."
It does not refer to a voluntary association.

Classes and income levels have association elements that people tend to gravitate towards as they reflect their personal status. I'm forced into lower income areas, due to living at poverty levels, for example. Being both voluntary and involuntary are the dynamics, depending on personal preferences and environmental conditions. So, maybe I didn't miss that part at all.

 

[Pogo]

Classes and income levels have association elements that people tend to gravitate towards as they reflect their personal status. I'm forced into lower income areas, due to living at poverty levels, for example. Being both voluntary and involuntary are the dynamics, depending on personal preferences and environmental conditions. So, maybe I didn't miss that part at all.

Or maybe you are consigning yourself and others to inequality because you somehow think yourself unworthy.
I have lived on the edge at least as long as you have by typical standards, but on that edge, I see your attitude as what keeps you down.
Belief in a sky daddy while it may make you feel good and give you company does not actually solve problems.
On the other hand, you be you, just realize not everybody wants to be you.

 

[Balthazzar]

Or maybe you are consigning yourself and others to inequality because you somehow think yourself unworthy.
I have lived on the edge at least as long as you have by typical standards, but on that edge, I see your attitude as what keeps you down.
Belief in a sky daddy while it may make you feel good and give you company does not actually solve problems.
On the other hand, you be you, just realize not everybody wants to be you.

Ok, so consigning myself and others to inequality based on believing myself to be "unworthy"? You can't be serious. There is no way I can view your sentiments with anything but fake premise and ignorance. Living on the edge of what and which attitude would you be referring to? That I don't deem anything as a "sky daddy" or that I don't prescribe to this type of insult? Feeling good is one thing, comfort in my environment is another. Lets talk about solving problems. Is your "sky daddy" reference what makes you feel good or superior to my approach? My approach being civil action and involvement in social services, as well as involvement in our electoral processes. This has nothing to do with a "sky daddy" mentality. This has to do with civic duty as an American citizen. By the way, if you must know my position on your "sky daddy" reference, which you somehow found it prudent to apply to my person, I'm a pantheist (panentheist) which means I honor the universe as the supreme governing force of our existence. My fail safe, for this reason, is secular in nature.

 

[Pogo]

Ok, so consigning myself and others to inequality based on believing myself to be "unworthy"? You can't be serious. There is no way I can view your sentiments with anything but fake premise and ignorance. Living on the edge of what and which attitude would you be referring to? That I don't deem anything as a "sky daddy" or that I don't prescribe to this type of insult? Feeling good is one thing, comfort in my environment is another. Lets talk about solving problems. Is your "sky daddy" reference what makes you feel good or superior to my approach? My approach being civil action and involvement in social services, as well as involvement in our electoral processes. This has nothing to do with a "sky daddy" mentality. This has to do with civic duty as an American citizen. By the way, if you must know my position on your "sky daddy" reference, which you somehow found it prudent to apply to my person, I'm a pantheist (panentheist) which means I honor the universe as the supreme governing force of our existence. My fail safe, for this reason, is secular in nature.

Well then I will just go back to that biblical and very pre-biblical premise that even you should support. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Unless you like being put down and relegated due to your alternate propensities you should understand that treatment based on such differences is not in keeping with the principle.

If on the other hand, being treated thusly is what you desire, you should also realize that it is the individual freedom that actually allows you to be treated that way even if it is found uncivilized in general.

 

[Balthazzar]

Well then I will just go back to that biblical and very pre-biblical premise that even you should support. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Unless you like being put down and relegated due to your alternate propensities you should understand that treatment based on such differences is not in keeping with the principle.

If on the other hand, being treated thusly is what you desire, you should also realize that it is the individual freedom that actually allows you to be treated that way even if it is found uncivilized in general.

And that is the difficulty in my assumed position. I choose to be of service, I choose to involve myself in the electoral processes, I choose to be a civil servant because I understand the need...as a person. I can only represent myself, which I aim to do faithfully. As for religion, well ... that remains a personal thing and unique to all who claim one. You speak of ghetto as if it's a bad thing. I view it quite differently. This doesn't suggest that I will remain where I am always, it simply means that I have been partially raised from and in the ghetto areas and that I seek beyond Christian traditions to assemble with people who might better understand me. One day I will grab my camera and laptop and begin my publishing work.

 

[Pogo]

And that is the difficulty in my assumed position. I choose to be of service, I choose to involve myself in the electoral processes, I choose to be a civil servant because I understand the need...as a person. I can only represent myself, which I aim to do faithfully. As for religion, well ... that remains a personal thing and unique to all who claim one. You speak of ghetto as if it's a bad thing. I view it quite differently. This doesn't suggest that I will remain where I am always, it simply means that I have been partially raised from and in the ghetto areas and that I seek beyond Christian traditions to assemble with people who might better understand me. One day I will grab my camera and laptop and begin my publishing work.

And someday you may realize that your corner is just a small corner and may not be generally applicable. Peace.

 

[Balthazzar]

And someday you may realize that your corner is just a small corner and may not be generally applicable. Peace.

A small corner would imply what? Generally speaking, I mean. Being applicable to what or whom? My personal corner, I will presume, would imply self and self-contribution of myself. As in according to my ability to be of service, which varies from person to person and to be honest isn't even required at all. The choices we make are personal. I choose to involve myself in our politics. Why? Because if I don't, I place my life solely in other people's control, many of whom can be verified as enemies. With that stated, it is in my best interest from my personal, non applicable corner, generally speaking.

You follow with "peace" yet you invalidate my person in a way that presumes superiority over me, suggesting that my minority may not be applicable, generally. Am I atheist? Am I Christian? Am I Muslim? I am astute in my learning, but I question whether you are able to acknowledge my position.