The True Nature of God

[Ostronomos]

God permeates every aspect of our existence. From mathematics to culture to entertainment. From society to the individual. But what is this elusive Being really? Obviously, there are many who hold on to skepticism for understandable reasons. I am here to provide humanity with truth at the exclusion of all else. I have always held truth in high regard and have uttered it to best of my ability. So when I say that God is real because He is proven using logic you know that it is coming from a place of truth. I wrote a proof of consciousness on sciforums for anyone who's curious. Some of you may be averse to the idea of God due to His mysterious nature. Indeed He remains elusive, but that does not make Him false, quite the opposite. In fact, God is the very definition of ultimate truth. If God were not real, our world would be void of meaning. And all objects would appear false and unintelligible. God bestows our world with intelligibility and meaning.

Thank you,

I only hope that humanity can be united under one God.

 

[Madsaac]

God permeates every aspect of our existence. From mathematics to culture to entertainment. From society to the individual. But what is this elusive Being really? Obviously, there are many who hold on to skepticism for understandable reasons. I am here to provide humanity with truth at the exclusion of all else. I have always held truth in high regard and have uttered it to best of my ability. So when I say that God is real because He is proven using logic you know that it is coming from a place of truth. I wrote a proof of consciousness on sciforums for anyone who's curious. Some of you may be averse to the idea of God due to His mysterious nature. Indeed He remains elusive, but that does not make Him false, quite the opposite. In fact, God is the very definition of ultimate truth. If God were not real, our world would be void of meaning. And all objects would appear false and unintelligible. God bestows our world with intelligibility and meaning.

Thank you,

I only hope that humanity can be united under one God.

Nice to share your own personal thoughts on God.

 

[Kfox]

God is the very definition of ultimate truth.

Is your idea of God a sentient being?

If God were not real, our world would be void of meaning.

Why is meaning necessary for the Planet? IOW why isn’t it enough that the inhabitants of the planet bring meaning to their lives?

And all objects would appear false and unintelligible.

What do you base this on?

 

[Ostronomos]

Is your idea of God a sentient being?

Yes. An intelligent energy that is at the source of all existence including the universe.

I am also well aware of the fact that observation creates reality as described by Quantum Theory.

Why is meaning necessary for the Planet? IOW why isn’t it enough that the inhabitants of the planet bring meaning to their lives?

It is a conclusion based on binary logic or it from bit. That one need only question the source of our consciousness and the glory of light in order to evidence God. Physics and information go hand in hand.

What do you base this on?

Pure logic.

 

[Ostronomos]

Purpose implies intent. Even if there were no intent it does not exclude the possibility of God. All roads lead back to a God as ultimate source. I have experimented with psychedelics and have discovered that events could take on the unique property of superposition, where the mind affects the probability of the event having a single outcome when the wavefunction collapses. The wise know that God is real. My hope is that in my efforts to unite God and science I will further mankind's prosperity...

 

[Kfox]

Yes. An intelligent energy that is at the source of all existence including the universe.

So explain to me the evidence that not only the Universe has an actual source, but that this source must be sentient.

It is a conclusion based on binary logic or it from bit. That one need only question the source of our consciousness and the glory of light in order to evidence God.

How does me questioning the source of my consciousness and light, mean this big rock we live on floating around outer space, has to have purpose? I’m not getting this; please explain.

Purpose implies intent.

So how does your logic imply intent of Planet Earth?

Even if there were no intent it does not exclude the possibility of God.

"No intent" does not mean there is a God either.

All roads lead back to a God as ultimate source.

No; the road where there is no purpose or intent to planet Earth…. that road does not automatically lead to God. So at minimum, you need to provide evidence of purpose and intent for this planet

 

[Ostronomos]

So explain to me the evidence that not only the Universe has an actual source, but that this source must be sentient.

In the thread One X, Therefore One God, I identified with the source that lead me to write that thread. For if there is One X, Then it follows that there is One God, the source. Only those who are chosen can experience it. Unfortunately, not everyone can claim to possess the 6th sense. That is when one has FULL ACCESS TO REALITY UNLIKE YOUR TYPICAL ATHEIST WHO DENIES GOD.

Matter is reduced further to information or 0s and 1s.

String theory says that there are higher dimensions, and it is those dimensions that contain higher dimensional entities. Have you ever taken all the lights off in your home to be left in pitch black darkness only to then move around like the perfect ninja, scaring away all the demons and having a God appear before you by sunrise? No? That's what I thought.

How does me questioning the source of my consciousness and light, mean this big rock we live on floating around outer space, has to have purpose? I’m not getting this; please explain.

Spare me the effort, I never said it has to have a purpose. I said it may or may not have a purpose. Either way, it does not exclude the possibility of a God.

I should mention that the universe is following a self-fulfilling algorithm, that guides it towards its destiny.

So how does your logic imply intent of Planet Earth?

In the words of Christopher Langan, the universe gave rise to a theorist, who then gives rise to a theory, which may or may not be accurate Either way, we cannot separate theory from cognition (what science relegated to secondary status before Langan and I).

"No intent" does not mean there is a God either.

No; the road where there is no purpose or intent to planet Earth…. that road does not automatically lead to God. So at minimum, you need to provide evidence of purpose and intent for this planet

There is apparently no distinction between physical matter and information at the most basic level of reality (time processes information), of which reality consists primarily of information and cognition or the union by the process of collective consciousness. The universe is running a simulation of it's own contents, think Matrices within Matrices. Reality evolves through time or syntax the way a language would, where the general elements contain the specific. I think of the Spirit of God as a common language collective or whole consciousness which processes and configures itself automatically takes place through all spatial dimensions from 1 to 10, with the ligament of time totaling 11. While nothing is unreal, nothing can be said to be real. Thus we eliminate the untruth of an "external reality" acting outside the mind. Where the universe can be thought of as the mind of God, nothing is not existing on it's own outside the universe. Nothing is defined as unbound telesis or UBT acting freely of information onstraint.

See Conspansion.

 

[Kfox]

In the thread One X, Therefore One God, I identified with the source that lead me to write that thread.

What is thread One X?

Spare me the effort, I never said it has to have a purpose. I said it may or may not have a purpose. Either way, it does not exclude the possibility of a God.

I am not arguing against the possibility of God, I’m arguing against the claim of evidence of God.

In the words of Christopher Langan, the universe gave rise to a theorist, who then gives rise to a theory, which may or may not be accurate Either way, we cannot separate theory from cognition (what science relegated to secondary status before Langan and I).

There is apparently no distinction between physical matter and information at the most basic level of reality (time processes information), of which reality consists primarily of information and cognition or the union by the process of collective consciousness. The universe is running a simulation of it's own contents, think Matrices within Matrices. Reality evolves through time or syntax the way a language would, where the general elements contain the specific. I think of the Spirit of God as a common language collective or whole consciousness which processes and configures itself automatically takes place through all spatial dimensions from 1 to 10, with the ligament of time totaling 11. While nothing is unreal, nothing can be said to be real. Thus we eliminate the untruth of an "external reality" acting outside the mind. Where the universe can be thought of as the mind of God, nothing is not existing on it's own outside the universe. Nothing is defined as unbound telesis or UBT acting freely of information onstraint.

See Conspansion.

Your argument failed because you neglected to provide evidence of purpose or intent for this planet.

 

[Ostronomos]

What is thread One X?

I am not arguing against the possibility of God, I’m arguing against the claim of evidence of God.

Your argument failed because you neglected to provide evidence of purpose or intent for this planet.

Please see the previous post regarding intent. A deist God does not interfere with the way events unfold in our universe. So your point is moot.

Now get lost.

 

[Kfox]

Please see the previous post regarding intent. A deist God does not interfere with the way events unfold in our universe. So your point is moot.

Now get lost.

There is no reason to get rude. I was only explaining why your definition of God does not sound credible to me. Your personal attack was unwarranted.

 

[Madsaac]

Purpose implies intent. Even if there were no intent it does not exclude the possibility of God. All roads lead back to a God as ultimate source. I have experimented with psychedelics and have discovered that events could take on the unique property of superposition, where the mind affects the probability of the event having a single outcome when the wavefunction collapses. The wise know that God is real. My hope is that in my efforts to unite God and science I will further mankind's prosperity...

What started the universe/s and time could be god but since then, it seems god has had nothing to do with the universe.

I like your idea of trying to unite science with god but what you have mentioned, is to me, all naturally accruing, your brain reacting to drugs naturally.

You have some good ideas but could they just be your brain making things up, your imagination. I would love to to be able to get beyond this notion but its just our brain.

 

[Regiomontanus]

But what is this elusive Being really?

You see God, the Creator of the Universe, as a 'being?'

 

[Regiomontanus]

but since then, it seems god has had nothing to do with the universe.

I would argue that the Word being made flesh contradicts your statement.