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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
No, they voted against the Tories.

Do you agree with May's attitude to Saudi Arabia? Support for this terror funding, woman hating theocracy?
Do you expect her to condemn Saudi Arabia like you expect Corbyn to condemn Venezuela?
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If Corbyn has condemned Saudi Arabia, please provide a link.
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
England my lionheart said:
Unfortunately there are people who don't agree with democracy,the will of the people said we leave the EU and that's what should happen,in the EU we are a sinking ship but outside we might just stay afloat.

Its the same people who have made it like it is,Corbyn Imo is a traitor,take me to court.
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Will of the people? Bull, its the will of less than 37.5% of the people.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12863036

https://www.indy100.com/article/bre...ter-turnout-electoral-register-charts-7399226

And much of the hype was based on lies
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And xenophobia
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Ahh smother big brave antonymous name caller. Yes it seems obvious what type of person made up that 37.5%
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
ChristineM said:
Will of the people? Bull, its the will of less than 37.5% of the people.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12863036

https://www.indy100.com/article/bre...ter-turnout-electoral-register-charts-7399226

And much of the hype was based on lies
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And xenophobia
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Ahh smother big brave antonymous name caller. Yes it seems obvious what type of person made up that 37.5%
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Ok,line up the majority of people who voted out and walk along it and see how long it takes,its called democracy
 
ChristineM

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
England my lionheart said:
Ok,line up the majority of people who voted out and walk along it and see how long it takes,its called democracy
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Changing the goalpost now?

The claim of "will if the people" is just another brexit untruth, like so many others. Its the will of 37.5% of the people.

I have no qualms with democracy, even weighted british democracy. My gripe is the lying.
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
ChristineM said:
Changing the goalpost now?

The claim of "will if the people" is just another brexit untruth, like so many others. Its the will of 37.5% of the people.

I have no qualms with democracy, even weighted british democracy. My gripe is the lying.
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Then the blame lays with those who didn't vote,the majority who did won,its still democracy.
 
Notanumber

Notanumber

A Free Man
Altfish said:
Ducking the question, I see.

But in the spirit of getting an answer...
UK's Jeremy Corbyn: Halt arms sales to Saudi Arabia

Please don't duck again, answer my question.
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It looks like Corbyn has not condemned Saudi Arabia for exporting terror after all and as for calling for the halting of arms sales to Saudi Arabia he can call for this as much as he wants whilst in opposition. If he were the Prime Minister, he would probably be calling for something very different. I just hope that we never find out.
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
It looks like Corbyn has not condemned Saudi Arabia for exporting terror after all and as for calling for the halting of arms sales to Saudi Arabia he can call for this as much as he wants whilst in opposition. If he were the Prime Minister, he would probably be calling for something very different. I just hope that we never find out.
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Still ducking my question, is there a problem?
 
Altfish

Altfish

Veteran Member
Notanumber said:
Can you answer this question?

Do you seriously want the Corbynistas to run the UK?

Corbynistas believe in socialism, until the bill arrives | Spectator Life

He condemned this abuse but he will not condemn Venezuela’s leadership.

Corbynistas troll Emma Barnett for Woman's Hour interview | Daily Mail Online
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Good grief, what is it you don't understand. WILL YOU PLEASE ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!

Again, in the spirit of hope. I will answer your question.
No, I don't want Corbyn to run the UK...but he'd do a darn sight better job than the idiots we have in the driving seat currently. At the last election I voted Labour despite Corbyn.
Talking of Trolls... do you read the Daily Mail, they have been trolling Corbyn since he was elected.
 
The Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
England my lionheart said:
Well their mandate is a lot tougher than it should be,people didn't vote for corbyn they voted against brexit,this is the reason its the way it is.
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If you're talking about May, Johnson, Davis & Gove; they don't even have a mandate for Brexit any more. The Government that called for and held the EU referendum no longer exists and the Tories now have less than a parliamentary majority. Not only was the referendum undemocratic, now the Government doing anything other than revoking notice of Article 50 is undemocratic.


England my lionheart said:
Then the blame lays with those who didn't vote,the majority who did won,its still democracy.
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Let's address the elephant in the room: the thousands of people who were prevented from voting but will be most affected by Brexit. The EU nationals living here; 16-17 year olds? How was denying them a say in any way 'democratic'?
 
England my lionheart

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
A Greased Scotsman said:
If you're talking about May, Johnson, Davis & Gove; they don't even have a mandate for Brexit any more. The Government that called for and held the EU referendum no longer exists and the Tories now have less than a parliamentary majority. Not only was the referendum undemocratic, now the Government doing anything other than revoking notice of Article 50 is undemocratic.




Let's address the elephant in the room: the thousands of people who were prevented from voting but will be most affected by Brexit. The EU nationals living here; 16-17 year olds? How was denying them a say in any way 'democratic'?
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Afaik you have to be a citizen of any country to vote
 
The Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
England my lionheart said:
Ok I'm doing this on my mobile so apologies if I miss anything,he's a communist,
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How is Corbyn a communist (as opposed to, say, a socialist?) and how is being a communist a 'lack of respect' for our country?


he's not batting for our team,
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What does 'our team' mean in this context? You're using rather vague terms here which don't carry much specific meaning?


he's like ken Livingston in a party that leaks more money than the titanic leaked water,
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The Tories literally just bought their way to a Parliamentary power-sharing arrangement with Irish terrorists.


he doesn't even respect our war dead,
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What are you talking about? Corbyn wants to stop sending our soldiers out to die in pointless resource-based conflicts aimed at power-projection and maintaining the jingoistic illusion of old Empire. If anything, I'd say he's showing more respect for British veterans by showing he doesn't want to spend their lives needlessly.


all he can sing is the red flag,we dont have a red flag btw,
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Because the red flag is a symbol of socialism and Corbyn is a socialist. Would you rather an atheist republican sing 'God Save the Queen'? You could then have a go at him for being a hypocrite ;)


check out his work at British Leyland as a union rep.
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Okay, will do.


Unions which are political tools,as a young apprentice I and others refused to pay union fees because of block voting,we suffered for it,some violence and abuse but hey I'm still here.
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That's your call and I'm sorry for the abuse you suffered because of it. I suspect the guys abusing you thought that your refusal to unionise was undermining their ability to collectively bargain.


I have no love for the conservatives but they are the best of a bad lot,
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You are joking! The Tories are guilty of pretty much everything they've accused Corbyn of. I'll list it:
  1. Supporting Irish terrorism - Ulster Unionists;
  2. Being currently affiliated with Irish terrorist organisations - Croydon Tory councillor Maria Gatland was a full member of the Provisional IRA;
  3. Supporting foreign terrorism - the Tories arm and fund the Saudi government which is also the biggest foreign source of terrorism in the UK while refusing to condemn its domestic excesses and its commission of war crimes in Yemen;
  4. Not being patriotic - turning a campaign to leave the EU based on xenophobia & outright lies into 'the will of the people' while demanding that everyone is patriotic by not pointing out the fact that they (the Tories) are sucking ***-hair at negotiating with the EU. Has David Davis performed a cost analysis of what a no-deal exit will look like yet?;
  5. Wanting to leave the UK defenceless - Tories are shrinking the armed services while not providing adequate support services to British veterans and are planning to sink hundreds of billions (which COULD be spent on conventional forces) into a nuclear 'deterrent' which does not protect us from contemporary threats like cyber attacks or Islamic terrorism;
  6. Not respecting democracy - the Tories cheated to gain their last Parliamentary majority, then held up the gerrymandered result of an advisory referendum as 'the will of the people', are now planning to use archaic legislation (Henry VIII amendments) to circumvent Parliamentary scrutiny, have since bought a power-sharing deal with Irish terrorists a party which has the backing of Irish terrorists (the UDA) to the tune of £1.5bn (is any of that even legal?) and continue to act as though they have a mandate for any of their bull**** despite losing their Parliamentary majority;
  7. Being fiscally irresponsible - the Tories borrowed more in five years than Labour did in fifteen years and the UK national debt now stands at £1.8tn;

They've got so much collective brass neck I'm amazed copper thieves haven't beheaded the Cabinet and sold their heads to a yard.


I voted for them once to get out of the EU,I remember (just) before the EU,we did ok but with corbynski we would never be.
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Then you as a Tory voter bear some responsibility for the mess we're in now. Also, you have no valid basis for comparing Corbyn's performance in government to the Tories as Corbyn has never actually been in government.


England my lionheart said:
Afaik you have to be a citizen of any country to vote
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Citizenship isn't a necessary requirement to vote in UK referenda because:
  1. Precedent - EU nationals were allowed to vote in the Scottish independence referendum;
  2. 16-17 year olds who were British citizens living in the UK were denied a vote - this actually also falls under precedent as this age group was allowed a vote in the Scottish independence referendum;
  3. British citizens living in Europe were denied a vote;
The only reason it became a requirement here is because the Tories wanted to gerrymander the result towards Brexit.
 
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