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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
You are the one's who wanted to jump ship, so its up to you to swim, don't pass the buck to the ones who stayed onboard.

You can't be out of the club and get all the benefits of a club member. If you don't like the consequences... In a word 'tough', your guys should have thought things through rather than jumping on the xenophobia train then preying it will turn out ok.

I think we'll be fine but it would have speeded up the process.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
The EU has never benefitted British people,the shengen agreement has been a disaster and free movement overall has been disastrous,Merkel and the rest of the EU gang have done enough damage to last for years if we add corbyn to the cocktail, I shudder to think what would happen.

Unfortunately we will be living with the mess for many years to come.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
The EU has never benefitted British people,the shengen agreement has been a disaster and free movement overall has been disastrous,Merkel and the rest of the EU gang have done enough damage to last for years if we add corbyn to the cocktail, I shudder to think what would happen.

Unfortunately we will be living with the mess for many years to come.

Bull,

Please define why you claim the the shengen agreement has been a "disaster"

Who picks your vegetable's? who cleans your public toilets? Who looks after your sick? Immigrant labour because brits are above that sort of work for minimum wage.

It seems the british brexit negotiation team (chuckling) want to keep the bits of shengen that they want - apparently one way way open borders... Like that's going to happen.


What could happen? The uk could continue to prosper as it has for the last 40+ years. Your children and grandchildren (who for a large part) were not entitled to vote on their future would have had the benefit of freedom of movement and the enhanced employment opportunities that would allow and free trade with seven hundred and fifty million consumer's.

Yes you will be living in a mess.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Blame the people who voted labour

Labour are not negotiating your future. Had it been a labour victory the chief negotiator would have been Keir Starmer, a qc and barrister with a grounding in European law.

Instead you have an old boys network appointee with no qualifications for the job. Cool eh?
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
The EU has never benefitted British people,

This is absurd. The Working Time Directive; the ability to live & work anywhere in Europe, cheaper holidays without insane amounts of border controls, environmental regulations that ensure our beaches have to be kept clean - to name just four things we've gained from the EU.


the shengen agreement has been a disaster

In what ways? Can you tell us without referring to Brexteer propaganda?


and free movement overall has been disastrous,

For whom? Self-entitled Little Englanders who believe they're owed jobs?


Merkel and the rest of the EU gang have done enough damage to last for years if we add corbyn to the cocktail,

On what basis do you say this? Corbyn hasn't even been in government - you've got no reason at all to lambast his performance. Especially since he's pro-Brexit himself. Look instead to the utter catastrophe the Tories are being instead of ****ting yourself about what might happen if Corbyn got into 10 Downing Street.


I shudder to think what would happen.

The funny thing is all you can point to in relation to Corbyn are bogeymen. With the Tories, their incompetence and general lack of empathy is documented and well known.


Unfortunately we will be living with the mess for many years to come.

And the blame lies squarely on every person who voted Leave. You won. Now live with it.


Blame the people who voted labour

Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your actions. Labour aren't responsible for the handling the UK's side of the Brexit negotiations, the Tories are. And they're doing a **** poor job. Stop trying to deflect from the fact that Tresemmé and her cabinet are a cavalcade of ****-ups who, as has been clearly demonstrated, couldn't negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag.

May called a General Election and lost her Parliamentary majority - she lost any pretence of a mandate she might have had for her version of Brexit. If she respected democracy she'd stop pursuing it.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Labour are not negotiating your future. Had it been a labour victory the chief negotiator would have been Keir Starmer, a qc and barrister with a grounding in European law.

Instead you have an old boys network appointee with no qualifications for the job. Cool eh?

Yes,if labour won we would be skipping the foreplay and just bend over.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
This is absurd. The Working Time Directive; the ability to live & work anywhere in Europe, cheaper holidays without insane amounts of border controls, environmental regulations that ensure our beaches have to be kept clean - to name just four things we've gained from the EU.

Sure that's four things but free movement has impacted on our straining infrastructure,a better way would be investment in the poorer states.




In what ways? Can you tell us without referring to Brexteer propaganda?




For whom? Self-entitled Little Englanders who believe they're owed jobs?

Not at all,cheap labour helps nobody neither does people trafficking or free movement of someone else's criminals.




On what basis do you say this? Corbyn hasn't even been in government - you've got no reason at all to lambast his performance. Especially since he's pro-Brexit himself. Look instead to the utter catastrophe the Tories are being instead of ****ting yourself about what might happen if Corbyn got into 10 Downing Street.

Unfortunately I have lived through a couple of labour governments and seen what they did to the GLC ,red ken and the antisemetic brigade.
Corbyn wants to buy back all the privatised industries like the rail network,noble cause you might think but its really lacked investment for so long and where's the money coming from?,the British people of course..




The funny thing is all you can point to in relation to Corbyn are bogeymen. With the Tories, their incompetence and general lack of empathy is documented and well known.

I have no love for the tories,hated thatcher and that whole slimy government and its a shame that labour don't make effective opposition.




And the blame lies squarely on every person who voted Leave. You won. Now live with it.

I can easily live with it,should have done it years ago.



Stop passing the buck and take responsibility for your actions. Labour aren't responsible for the handling the UK's side of the Brexit negotiations, the Tories are. And they're doing a **** poor job. Stop trying to deflect from the fact that Tresemmé and her cabinet are a cavalcade of ****-ups who, as has been clearly demonstrated, couldn't negotiate their way out of a wet paper bag.

Because they didn't get the required majority to go hard.

May called a General Election and lost her Parliamentary majority - she lost any pretence of a mandate she might have had for her version of Brexit. If she respected democracy she'd stop pursuing it.

Yes she foolishly did,and yes she should respect democracy but so should the anti brexit who obviously don't.
 
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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member

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England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Looking at your posts you are far from that, you accept lies and blame others for the faults of your beloved political party.

I did say "a certain amount of pleasure",they are not my beloved party,Cameron was a coward but the tories,although reluctantly,gave us the opportunity to get out.

At least any lies they told didn't end up in war like Blair.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I did say "a certain amount of pleasure",they are not my beloved party,Cameron was a coward but the tories,although reluctantly,gave us the opportunity to get out.

At least any lies they told didn't end up in war like Blair.

Actually, have you been to Aleppo recently?

The lies are still lies, no matter who tells them, you are content for the brexit brigade to lie because it suits your purpose but not for Blair to lie because it doesn't. Should i hypocrisy to that list of brexit traits?
 
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