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The UK is not as bad as Venezuela

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
@England my lionheart

For your information, a photo of Beynac, in sw France.
The house on the hill was once the summer retreat of
your namesake (richard the lionheart)

P1080164.JPG
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Actually, have you been to Aleppo recently?

The lies are still lies, no matter who tells them, you are content for the brexit brigade to lie because it suits your purpose but not for Blair to lie because it doesn't. Should i hypocrisy to that list of brexit traits?

No only new Zealand,brexit didn't send our soldiers to war on lies or with insufficient equiptment but the main reason we are out is immigration.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
@England my lionheart

For your information, a photo of Beynac, in sw France.
The house on the hill was once the summer retreat of
your namesake (richard the lionheart)

P1080164.JPG

Haha,he didn't speak English,my namesake is actually a song by Kate bush,I just like the picture.

I love France though,been many times,nime poitier,Marie san del a met,Paris Marseille Normandy Brittany and laros posay.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
No only new Zealand,brexit didn't send our soldiers to war on lies or with insufficient equiptment but the main reason we are out is immigration.


Well, go see Aleppo and see how your government is lying to you before griping about the other guy

You keep saying that, yet the campaign was fought on lies, hate and xenophobia. Perhaps you justify that by caslling it immigration

The UK has been a country of immigrants for at least 2000 years, perhaps longer, without immigration the country cannot function economically.

I have asked several questions over the last few post and you have not been able to answer any, all you do is stick to your dogmatic nonsense that has been discredited repeatedly
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Haha,he didn't speak English,my namesake is actually a song by Kate bush,I just like the picture.

I love France though,been many times,nime poitier,Marie san del a met,Paris Marseille Normandy Brittany and laros posay.

No one spoke English then, even royalty were immigrants... Oh right.

Consider your love when you are waiting in a 5 hour queue when you want to pop across the channel after you officially jump ship
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Haha,he didn't speak English,my namesake is actually a song by Kate bush,I just like the picture.

I love France though,been many times,nime poitier,Marie san del a met,Paris Marseille Normandy Brittany and laros posay.


Can i ask then why you use an avatar depicting the 12 century king in full aggressive mode

And not a woman with spots posed over a wooden box
 

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Yes she foolishly did,and yes she should respect democracy but so should the anti brexit who obviously don't.

Hold up. You're trying to argue two conflicting positions at the same time: namely that Brexit simultaneously is and is not a democratic decision. If you agree May should "respect democracy" and not pursue Brexit then you're admitting it is not democratic. But you then say that those who continue to oppose Brexit are not respecting democracy which implies Brexit is democratic.

The truth is that we Remainers understand that democracy is a process - not the sum of a single ballot - whereas Brexiteers seem to not understand this. Brexiteers incessantly demand we support a gerrymandered referendum called by an illegal government. The EU referendum was inherently undemocratic because so many voices were silenced - I suspect out of a desire to gerrymander the result more favourably towards the Leave campaign - and were denied a voice. Either because they were foreigners or because they were 'too young' (and yet 16 & 17 year olds are old enough to marry, to join the Armed Forces and pay taxes). These people were stopped from having a say they had every right to make because these people will suffer the consequences more than most others.

That is not democratic.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
No one spoke English then, even royalty were immigrants... Oh right.

Consider your love when you are waiting in a 5 hour queue when you want to pop across the channel after you officially jump ship

Im more interested in new Zealand now but id put up with waiting,takes 27 hours to get to new Zealand so 5 hours isn't the end of the world
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Haha,he didn't speak English,my namesake is actually a song by Kate bush,I just like the picture.

I love France though,been many times,nime poitier,Marie san del a met,Paris Marseille Normandy Brittany and laros posay.

P.s. the pic is taken from one of my favorite picnic spots just 12 k from home. Of courses it will be much less busy with the lack of summer tourists from the uk when customs controls are in force.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Im more interested in new Zealand now but id put up with waiting,takes 27 hours to get to new Zealand so 5 hours isn't the end of the world

Ah right, i understand, afraid to show your face in Europe? So hypocrisy is not full blown 100%. Well done, i didn't think you had it in you
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Im more interested in new Zealand now but id put up with waiting,takes 27 hours to get to new Zealand so 5 hours isn't the end of the world

And, there's a bit of difference between 27 hours of at leat semi luxury with drinks, food and entertainment on trap and standing in a stifling queue surrounded by screaming kids. Enjoy.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Well, go see Aleppo and see how your government is lying to you before griping about the other guy

Like I said before they all lie,trump Blair Cameron,politicians lie,always have always will.

You keep saying that, yet the campaign was fought on lies, hate and xenophobia. Perhaps you justify that by caslling it immigration

This country is small and simply doesn't have the infrastructure to cope with an endless stream of migrants,its simple maths.

The UK has been a country of immigrants for at least 2000 years, perhaps longer, without immigration the country cannot function economically.

Well we managed 2 world wars before the EU so that's nonsense we did however have a commonwealth.

I have asked several questions over the last few post and you have not been able to answer any, all you do is stick to your dogmatic nonsense that has been discredited repeatedly

What do you want me to do?,agree with you?,I have agreed that politicians lie so that should suffice.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Ah right, i understand, afraid to show your face in Europe? So hypocrisy is not full blown 100%. Well done, i didn't think you had it in you

No its because I've been all over Europe and not so interesting anymore,new zealands south island is pretty wild and have many friends their.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
What do you want me to do?,agree with you?,I have agreed that politicians lie so that should suffice.

Why should it suffice, you have gloated that Blair lied while playing down and ignoring the lies you voted for.

I really don't want you to do anything, I'm here to make you aware of a/ the lies you condone b/ the derailing the future of your children and children's children, c/ the undemocratic nature of the referendum (but it seems AGS is much better than i am on that score), d/ the laughable stance if your negotiating team e/ the economic consequences to the uk f/ oh sod it, i could go on for a while yet but why bother.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Why should it suffice, you have gloated that Blair lied while playing down and ignoring the lies you voted for.

I really don't want you to do anything, I'm here to make you aware of a/ the lies you condone b/ the derailing the future of your children and children's children, c/ the undemocratic nature of the referendum (but it seems AGS is much better than i am on that score), d/ the laughable stance if your negotiating team e/ the economic consequences to the uk f/ oh sod it, i could go on for a while yet but why bother.

I'm totally aware that I voted out because of free movement,I believe that's why most did.

We are not the only ones feeling it,your country and Germany are too,its a disaster,it could be worse,we could have someone like Merkel.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I'm totally aware that I voted out because of free movement,I believe that's why most did.

We are not the only ones feeling it,your country and Germany are too,its a disaster,it could be worse,we could have someone like Merkel.

No, not why most did, I've pointed out why moist did.

My country (until i can get French nationality) is England. Im just happy we got out when we did, i loath the little England xenophobic society that is developing there. I want my children to grow up in a Europe my grandfather fought and died in a war for.

No, its not a disaster, remember Le Pen did not win for a reason. Sure there are malcontents, but few and far between, but the right wing press manage to week them out and misreport the general mood because it sells newpapers to people like you.

And Germany is one of the most economically successful countries in Europe. It also beats the uk in education and health.

As does France for that matter
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
No, not why most did, I've pointed out why moist did.

So your the overriding authority then

My country (until i can get French nationality) is England. Im just happy we got out when we did, i loath the little England xenophobic society that is developing there. I want my children to grow up in a Europe my grandfather fought and died in a war for.

Well good for you

No, its not a disaster, remember Le Pen did not win for a reason. Sure there are malcontents, but few and far between, but the right wing press manage to week them out and misreport the general mood because it sells newpapers to people like you.

Lol,"a few malcontents",that's hilarious,the reason le Penn lost is simple,fn were outvoted but to say a few are unhappy in Europe is silly.

And Germany is one of the most economically successful countries in Europe. It also beats the uk in education and health.

Good for them,they can continue being so without us or the house of cards collapses
.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Your post screwed up so I'll answer what i can

There is considerable evidence. Not all brexit voters are far right conservative. Far from it, there, the majority of that 37% don't live in the stockbroker belt and are proud to be xenophobic. But are really peed off that the nhs is still collapsing despite the promises of a £350 million a week infection

Ahh flippancy, so telling

A few, relatively... Yes out voted, you are the one hyping democracy. Interesting your hypocrisy also spreads to french elections

What collapse? The only thing collapsing is the British economy which, based on the exchange rate alone has already collapses by over 20% since the brexit vote.
 
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