Is it even possible to defeat an enemy who can see the future?
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The Ultimate Superpower?
- Thread starter The Sum of Awe
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freethinker44
Well-Known Member
Have you seen the movie push? If not, DON'T, it was terrible. But they faced this exact problem and found a clever way around it.
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Only if you are invisible, then he or she wouldn't see you coming.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Depends. Can they be distracted? I can see to the left of me but if I'm not looking there I won't see the boot about to greet me.
If only leaders of a country could see into the past, & learn from it.
What a formidable power it would be!
What a formidable power it would be!
Well, I was thinking in a way where they'd know what's coming, like a side awareness thing. They'll always be aware of the future they don't have to actually look, they just know.
Gjallarhorn
N'yog-Sothep
Then they're omniscient, not simply precognitive.
I did watch the movie at one point, thinking it was going to be like "Jumper" (which i really did enjoy), but I forgot exactly what they did. I recommend you the movie, if you hadn't seen it yet, called Looper. It was very good.
Not exactly. They don't know everything (for example, they might not know how to work a gun, but they are aware of the future). I was intending it to be sort of like a sense, however this premise isn't based on anything at all, so I'm just adding details to a character that doesn't even exist.
Can the future be changed, and is your enemy aware of the changes? Does he remember averted futures?
It might be possible to convince him to your side if he does.
It might be possible to convince him to your side if he does.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I've seen Looper and Jump and liked both of them. But in Push, the one gang had the girl who could see the future so the other gang, realizing the future was only set when you have decided to act (or something like that) had one guy formulate a plan and place instructions for other members of his group put into envelopes to be opened and followed at certain times, then he had his memory wiped so no one knew what they were going to do until exactly the moment they were going to do it so the other groups pre-cog only knew about it seconds or minutes before it happened so she couldn't do anything about it.
Now that I think of it, this post sorta reminded me, didn't they get around it by doing things without thinking? That really seemed cheatful to me, it implied that knowledge of the future is limited to what is planned.
I prefer my future seers to know what is going to happen regardless, the unchanged future, what is going to truly happen.
I don't see how you could change the future if you do not know it, and in this case scenario the enemy is the only one who'd be able to change the future.
freethinker44
Well-Known Member
I think it was using the timeline in the sense that the Terminator franchise used it, "no fate but what we make for ourselves", you know, the whole "the future isn't set" thing.
Yes, it is
If there is a well, there is a way!
Sometimes even if you know what is coming, you know that you are done for!
The premise is very rich, but it really begs context.
Since the person has enemies in the first place, it is either unable or unwilling to take advantage of his power in order to convert them to its side.
Understanding why exactly it is so would be key to providing an answer, IMO.
And there are lots of workable options.
How reliable is that precognitive power? Does it make the future immutable once perceived? How difficult exactly it is to change it? How far ahead can he see? Do opposing powers exist? Is his power negated by special circunstances somehow? Does he have personal reasons to avoid using that power or taking advantage of it in some way?
There is also the personality of the enemy to consider. What are his goals? How does he feel about having enemies in the first place? Does he even accept that as a possibility? How does he relate to his own power? How psychologically balanced and how wise is he?
Since the person has enemies in the first place, it is either unable or unwilling to take advantage of his power in order to convert them to its side.
Understanding why exactly it is so would be key to providing an answer, IMO.
And there are lots of workable options.
How reliable is that precognitive power? Does it make the future immutable once perceived? How difficult exactly it is to change it? How far ahead can he see? Do opposing powers exist? Is his power negated by special circunstances somehow? Does he have personal reasons to avoid using that power or taking advantage of it in some way?
There is also the personality of the enemy to consider. What are his goals? How does he feel about having enemies in the first place? Does he even accept that as a possibility? How does he relate to his own power? How psychologically balanced and how wise is he?
DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
This is very true. There is a lot of context necessary to inform a good answer.
Indeed. So it all comes down to having to make them not see it coming until it's too late. But if you knew what you'd be worried about a second later, and see yourself aware of that future, since you're born you could see it coming.
DreadFish
Cosmic Vagabond
There are still lots of things that we can see coming but can't avert.
I think there are just too many problems without a more clearly defined premise.