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The Vortex beckons,how many contradictions and errors are in the Qur'an

Commoner

Headache
I offered to be your fricken guinea pig and you have ignored my offer.
I find your unsupportable views on this matter very juvenile and quite contemptible.
You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about and yet on and on you prattle.

I am sure Allah must be proud.

*bump* (just in case)
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Quote:Eselam
as for bisexuals, i can't explain that. i only know of homosexuality.[/quote]

I think you are digging a hole for yourself Eselam,i think your knowledge of what Homosexuality is and the reasons people are Gay is confined to the word of the Qur'an,it would have been far better if you had said as much ie "i only know what it says in the Qur'an about Homosexuals" simple,instead we have after so many posts got precisely nowhere so i shall move on.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
OMG I'm the same! Three older Sisters, a very Female-Oriented family. Yet, I'm Hetero-Sexual.

I'm glad someone else had to suffer 3 Sisters,actually i got my revenge for all the makeup and stuff by charging them money to get a Spider out of their rooms,same Spider of course ;) they did catch on so i moved on to threatening to put a Mouse in their rooms until they told my Mother.:D
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
I'm glad someone else had to suffer 3 Sisters,actually i got my revenge for all the makeup and stuff by charging them money to get a Spider out of their rooms,same Spider of course ;) they did catch on so i moved on to threatening to put a Mouse in their rooms until they told my Mother.:D
Oh... that does bring back some rather delicious memories of chasing them around with the almost dead spiders. You could get them to agree with almost anything - rather quickly, lol. I also remember being told by my dad, when I was about 10, that I couldn't punch my sisters on the chest any longer and feeling somehow cheated.
 

MissAlice

Well-Known Member
I use to scare both my sisters and parents with a live rat.

They had no idea I bought him from a pet store, it was freakn' hillarious since rats running loose are quite rare here.

I had to save him quickly as soon as my dad came after it with a knife....:(
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
The Quran only repeats the Bible .... therefore criticizing it - is criticizing the Bible.
It might be somewhat more accurate to say the Qur'an reinvents several stories from the Bible. In that regards, criticizing the reinventions is hardly criticizing the original stories. More to the point though, "So what?" The Bible is not claimed to be perfect or inerrant in any way.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
Oh, come on, you being a muslim has nothing to do with it. However, it does become a problem if you start mixing purely religious ideas in your arguments. Unless you can justify them as more than just "the Qur'an says so", they are no good in a debate, especially since this forum is a common ground for many different religions and beliefs.

none of what i have to say about homosexuality has to do with the quran. like i said no other muslim could explain it properly, unless it's a miracle from Allah.
 

Gharib

I want Khilafah back
I offered to be your fricken guinea pig and you have ignored my offer.
I find your unsupportable views on this matter very juvenile and quite contemptible.
You haven't the slightest idea what you are talking about and yet on and on you prattle.

I am sure Allah must be proud.

alright Ymir. i did want to ignore you (you know very well why) but since you are offering to go through it, no problem with me. i have nothing to loose nor gain.

after you read this post, please go open a thread in the one on one debate section. if you agree to go through with this. i don't want anyone else to interfere.

if i had no idea what i was talking about, then why offer to go through with it?
choose your words carefully, you are contradicting youself.

and lastly, you know nothing about Allah so please don't ever say things about him which you know not.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
The Quran only repeats the Bible .... therefore criticizing it - is criticizing the Bible.

Obviously the Qur'an does repeat the Bible and no doubt contains errors and contradictions etc,there are many reasons for this but the biggest is the part played by Man.
 

Breathe

Hostis humani generis
there aren't any contradictions in the quran and it isn't a copy of the bible.
Ah but eselam my friend, if you see it from a non-Muslim perspective, I'm sure you could see why it would be considered to be copying the Bible.

For example, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, Adam, Noah, Mary - they're all mentioned in the Tanakh and New Testament. The Qur'an mentions them as well, with stories very similar - some identical, others different (in Islamic belief, probably due to tahrif?), to the ones mentioned in the Bible.

To a non-Muslim, who does not believe that the Qur'an is the word of God, and seeing the Qur'an come hundreds of years later writing similar stories, it's understandable why non-Muslims see some parts of the Qur'an as repetition of the Bible.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
there aren't any contradictions in the quran and it isn't a copy of the bible.

Well we'll see Eselam,there are still 996 to examine,the Qur'an isn't a copy of the Bible as much as a hijack IMO,the books of the Bible came before the Qur'an so anything from the Bible that appears in the Qur'an is a copy.
 
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