Dead certainty based on what you heard a body of literature says.
I bet a I could draw a few parallels there if I really put my mind to it.
Would you like to make a wager?
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The Walking Dead
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Would you like to make a wager?
Quiddity
UndertheInfluenceofGiants
Unless I missed it, I don't think anybody argued against Rick hallucinating; he most certainly did. I just personally felt his hallucinations were not constant and without any reality; he tends to go in and out of them.
There's a poster arguing the phone calls (except the last one, perhaps) were "real."
What kind of stakes are we taking about?
The loser has to go a round with a walker in the governor's little arena!
Real life risks of The Walking Dead....
Man Shoots Girlfriend in Fight Over "The Walking Dead": Police | NBC New York
Man Shoots Girlfriend in Fight Over "The Walking Dead": Police | NBC New York
What the heck? I mean, I understand shooting someone over Tolkein canon, but the walking dead really shouldn't be in that arena quite yet.
Okay, so I'm officially hooked. Just have to watch episode 8 of Season 3 and I'll be all caught up. Woot!
But here's my one big beef: the modes of transmission for the virus that makes you into a zombie just doesn't make sense.
It appeared that direct physical contact was required, for the pathogen to enter in a wound in the skin, caused either by a bite or a scratch. So far so good.
But then we find out that everyone is already infected. Death somehow activates the virus. But here's the rub: this seems to make the biting or scratching completely unnecessary-- it is no longer required as a mode of transmission. Why would a bite or a scratch activate the virus?
And furthermore, there is a whole lot of blood spattering going around. You can't tell me that they never get any in their mouth, nose, or eyes. Mucous membranes are just as bad as a break in the skin in regards to direct contact transmission. So you can get zombie blood in your eye, but that doesn't activate your latent virus, but a scratch will? Come on, get real. At least 28 Days Later got that part right.
But here's my one big beef: the modes of transmission for the virus that makes you into a zombie just doesn't make sense.
It appeared that direct physical contact was required, for the pathogen to enter in a wound in the skin, caused either by a bite or a scratch. So far so good.
But then we find out that everyone is already infected. Death somehow activates the virus. But here's the rub: this seems to make the biting or scratching completely unnecessary-- it is no longer required as a mode of transmission. Why would a bite or a scratch activate the virus?
And furthermore, there is a whole lot of blood spattering going around. You can't tell me that they never get any in their mouth, nose, or eyes. Mucous membranes are just as bad as a break in the skin in regards to direct contact transmission. So you can get zombie blood in your eye, but that doesn't activate your latent virus, but a scratch will? Come on, get real. At least 28 Days Later got that part right.
I figger that when a human is bitten by a walker, some pathogen other than the zombifier causes a
mortal infection. Then, once the human dies, their immune system is gone, & the zombie bug takes charge.
Just getting zombie blood in your eye isn't enuf to kill...unless you had cuts in the region.
That would be a reasonable answer. After all, the mouth of a zombie has to be teeming with nasty things to cause nasty infections. However, you would then expect a wide range of symptoms, time frames, and such like that to cause death. You would also expect a bite not to be an automatic death sentence, since even nasty pathogens could be thwarted by a healthy immune system or antibiotics and such. Instead, the zombie bug appears to take over rather quickly after a bite, and there are a set progression of symptoms, like the fever.
That doesn't make sense. A mucous membrane is the same thing as a cut. There's no difference; they are an entry point into the body, a break in the skin barrier. And besides, they are always all scruffed up and full of cuts. I'm sure they get blood in their cuts all the time, but that isn't enough to activate the virus either.
Look, bub....or course it doesn't make total sense, but the whole show is just a dream Rick is having as he lies
semi-comatose in the hospital. This means the phone conversations area a hallucination within a hallucination.
On top of all that, I might be imagining watching it, & you are imagining this discussion, which other posters
are imagining watching.
McBell
Unbound
Seems to me there is no "mode of transmission".
Everyone already has the "infection".
Being dead activates it.
Being bitten activates it early.
Thus i would think that there is an element in walker saliva that activates it when the human body goes into "repair mode".
Don't you make me get out my .22!
The imaginary one?Don't you make me get out my .22!
That's exactly it: I don't understand why biting would activate the virus but not other similar contamination events.
That's actually a pretty good theory. The virus could (force the cells to) manufacture some sort of activation protein that is concentrated in walker saliva.
Though it doesn't explain the scratches.
Of course. But since you're only a figment of my imagination, an imaginary gun should be adequate.
Good....then I'll take imaginary precautions.
Rakhel
Well-Known Member
McBell
Unbound
Two thoughts come to mind right off the bat...
One, it is not the saliva per-say that contains the activating particle but a skin cell perhaps...
Two, I have not seen or heard of anyone who turned from a mere scratch.