The witchhunt continues...

[PoetPhilosopher]

If a cis-female is in a relationship with a transgender female(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-female a lesbian or straight?

Lesbian.

Although, if the cis female also likes men, they're bi. Or probably "pan".

If a cis-male is in a relationship with a transgender male(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-male a gay or straight

Gay.

Although, if the cis male also likes women, they're bi. Or probably "pan".

 

[SomeRandom]

You'd think (I would), but it's becoming "a thing".

Forgive me. But I remain skeptical

 

[Orbit]

You can repeat the earth is flat 10,000 times... but it isn't flat. You can imagine 100 genders or non-binary but there is still two. Sometimes the most simple answers have the truth.

That's just more science and social science denial.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Something I thought about the other day....

If a cis-female is in a relationship with a transgender female(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-female a lesbian or straight?

vice-versa

If a cis-male is in a relationship with a transgender male(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-male a gay or straight

How about mind your own business?

 

[We Never Know]

How about mind your own business?

Ditto

It is a valid question.

 

[icehorse]

How about mind your own business?

From the wanting to eat your cake and have it too dept.:

"I demand you use the arbitrary pronouns I decree for myself, I demand to declare my own gender, I demand to force society to redefine important words, and undo the rights of others, but how dare you want to understand me."

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

From the wanting to eat your cake and have it too dept.:

"I demand you use the arbitrary pronouns I decree for myself, I demand to declare my own gender, I demand to force society to redefine important words, and undo the rights of others, but how dare you want to understand me."

I'm kind of torn on the matter - I didn't mind answering @We Never Know 's question, as I did above - however, there comes a point where certain people (and not just one, multiple), will create a thread where they are highly skeptical of transgender people, get things explained to them, then kind of "linger on" creating dozens of threads on some of the same subjects, not seeming to show much more insight into the matter after getting hundreds of replies in their threads and many from people who are (in my opinion) pretty well-qualified to answer - and still being at square 1 without seeming to move an inch like the threads never took place, and continuing to dish out the same skepticism and ask basic question like they are a "got'cha" for the other side, when that and more has (probably) already been talked about in some form.

I'm not sure if it will happen, but I almost think it'd be better to not reply to such threads or questions any more at all, unless they are genuine new inquiries and not questions that have lingered on for dozens of threads from the same people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling people to "stop answering", that's up to them and not answering anything doesn't really create productive discussion - but at the same time, I question whether it's even less productive to "feed into" the never-ending laundry list of questions.

 

[We Never Know]

I'm kind of torn on the matter - I didn't mind answering @We Never Know 's question, as I did above - however, there comes a point where certain people (and not just one, multiple), will create a thread where they are highly skeptical of transgender people, get things explained to them, then kind of "linger on" creating dozens of threads on some of the same subjects, not seeming to show much more insight into the matter after getting hundreds of replies in their threads and many from people who are (in my opinion) pretty well-qualified to answer - and still being at square 1 without seeming to move an inch like the threads never took place, and continuing to dish out the same skepticism and ask basic question like they are a "got'cha" for the other side, when that and more has (probably) already been talked about in some form.

I'm not sure if it will happen, but I almost think it'd be better to not reply to such threads or questions any more at all, unless they are genuine new inquiries and not questions that have lingered on for dozens of threads from the same people.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not telling people to "stop answering", that's up to them and not answering anything doesn't really create productive discussion - but at the same time, I question whether it's even less productive to "feed into" the never-ending laundry list of questions.

"I didn't mind answering @We Never Know 's question, as I did above"

You answered my question? Where

Show me where these questions have been asked before..

If a cis-female is in a relationship with a transgender female(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-female a lesbian or straight?

vice-versa

If a cis-male is in a relationship with a transgender male(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-male a gay or straight

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

"I didn't mind answering @We Never Know 's question, as I did above"

You answered my question? Where

Show me where these questions have been asked before..

If a cis-female is in a relationship with a transgender female(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-female a lesbian or straight?

vice-versa

If a cis-male is in a relationship with a transgender male(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-male a gay or straight

Lesbian.

Although, if the cis female also likes men, they're bi. Or probably "pan".



Gay.

Although, if the cis male also likes women, they're bi. Or probably "pan".

I answered here.

 

[We Never Know]

I answered here.

My bad. I overlooked your post this time. I even rated it useful earlier lol

 

[Orbit]

"I didn't mind answering @We Never Know 's question, as I did above"

You answered my question? Where

Show me where these questions have been asked before..

If a cis-female is in a relationship with a transgender female(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-female a lesbian or straight?

vice-versa

If a cis-male is in a relationship with a transgender male(with no reassignment surgery).
Is the cis-male a gay or straight

What does it matter and why do you care? Do you have some sort of classification fetish?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

@We Never Know - Maybe I will give you a benefit of a doubt that you've never asked this specific question on the forum, but I have read some of your threads, with people stating that generally, people are what they identify as. So if a male identifies as a trans female, then they are likely a trans female. In which case, generally, to be attracted to them, would mean you are attracted to a woman, not a man.

Honestly, if you couldn't get a grasp on that just even in the 4 months I've been away from the forum, with you creating threads on trans people when I left, and still making them when I got back.... I'm starting to think there isn't much use in talking to you about it.

 

[We Never Know]

What does it matter and why do you care? Do you have some sort of classification fetish?

Well there is LGBTQIA, so if they have their own group, whats wrong with wondering to which they belong to?

 

[We Never Know]

From the wanting to eat your cake and have it too dept.:

"I demand you use the arbitrary pronouns I decree for myself, I demand to declare my own gender, I demand to force society to redefine important words, and undo the rights of others, but how dare you want to understand me."

That pretty much sums it up.
I am this because I think so..therfore I am. Accept it without question or be demonized.

 

[We Never Know]

@We Never Know - Maybe I will give you a benefit of a doubt that you've never asked this specific question on the forum, but I have read some of your threads, with people stating that generally, people are what they identify as. So if a male identifies as a trans female, then they are likely a trans female. In which case, generally, to be attracted to them, would mean you are attracted to a woman, not a man.

Honestly, if you couldn't get a grasp on that just even in the 4 months I've been away from the forum, with you creating threads on trans people when I left, and still making them when I got back.... I'm starting to think there isn't much use in talking to you about it.

If only people took that same attitude about a god and the bible.

 

[We Never Know]

@We Never Know - Maybe I will give you a benefit of a doubt that you've never asked this specific question on the forum, but I have read some of your threads, with people stating that generally, people are what they identify as. So if a male identifies as a trans female, then they are likely a trans female. In which case, generally, to be attracted to them, would mean you are attracted to a woman, not a man.

Honestly, if you couldn't get a grasp on that just even in the 4 months I've been away from the forum, with you creating threads on trans people when I left, and still making them when I got back.... I'm starting to think there isn't much use in talking to you about it.

So you expect me to understand something that science or even you yourself doesn't fully understand but I'm the bad guy for not understanding, is that about right?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

So you expect me to understand something that science or even you yourself doesn't fully understand but I'm the bad guy for not understanding, is that about right?

I mean, fair, if you want to look at it like that.... I can kind of understand and relate. I think the science is still being figured out, and I shouldn't really get frustrated in such a case.

If anything, I wanted to apologize if I 'got a little ahead of myself' in this thread prior. It doesn't happen too often, I just get frustrated because much like I see side X as demonizing trans people (at times), side X often sees trans people as demonizing them. And so on and so forth. I guess I'm just frustrated, not so much at people really, but that months of debate and discussion still haven't bridged anything, that it in fact, to me at least, looks the same as 4, 6, 8 months ago. Mostly.

 

[Soandso]

That pretty much sums it up.
I am this because I think so..therfore I am. Accept it without question or be demonized.

Hmmm... But why all the threads going on for months and months? Looking from the outside in, this seems less like honest inquiry - especially when people have given their answers time and time again

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Ditto

It is a valid question.

No, it's not. What do you call a couple that is a man and a woman? What do you call a couple that is two men? Two women? The genitals of those people are things you'll never see and is of no concern of yours. It changes nothing and is for them to deal with.
It falls under nonya damn business and you may want to consider why it's so important to you.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

From the wanting to eat your cake and have it too dept.:

"I demand you use the arbitrary pronouns I decree for myself, I demand to declare my own gender, I demand to force society to redefine important words, and undo the rights of others, but how dare you want to understand me."

You are barking up the wrong tree. I'd get called miss wearing a black leather trench coat, when I'd be wearing big, baggy pants, wallet chain anf over sized belt. I get called a girl when I'm working on my car (one lady even ran up to me as I was under my car amd she thought someone attacked me and ditched me there). And I never asked. It just happened.