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The Yamuna River moved eastward due to tectonic uplift. What did all the people do when living in Harappan cities, depriving them of water?
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River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala did wells help in this situation?
Really, no one remains because Indus: Entire cities were abandoned around 1500 BCE. If so, then wells weren't any good. Am I understanding correctly? How come wells didn't help?
River Sea
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@Bharat Jhunjhunwala Did they really do this after leaving the Harappan cities? How come?
Bible: Let every man put his sword on his side, and go in and out from entrance to entrance throughout the camp, and let every man kill his brother, kill his companion, and every man his neighbour (Exodus 32:27).
Son killed father, brother killed brother, nephew killed uncle, grandson killed grandfather, friend killed friend… When their arrows were exhausted and weapons were broken, they started pulling out reeds from the seacoast. This grass grew out of the powder of the pestle (Bhagwata Purana 11:30:13, 19-21).
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Wells still continued to provide water got from rain. But much much less.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
From ranj of kuchh to bay of bengal.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
i was giving an example. rivers always change their courses.
Bharat Jhunjhunwala
TruthPrevails
Changing course 1500 km is different than 15 km.
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
i do not think any one moved or needed to move that much except your imaginary yadavas who then turned into hebrews.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Aupmanyav
What was the system of mathematics in 1500 BC? Not Km. Not miles. What?
km is what in math?
Google search: Kilometer, or “km,” is a unit to measure length and distance. A kilometer is similar to the measuring the unit “mile,” which is also used to measure geographical distances. Many countries use kilometers as their standard unit of measuring length and distance. 1 kilometer is equal to 1000 meters.
How come there's KM and Miles, and what type of measurements did they use in 1500 BC, and how did they convert those measurements for either km or miles when first converting those measurements from math from 1500 BC? How? Can you please explain?
How come Krishna couldn't improve the water to make it safe to drink because he fought and overcame those snakes? The water from those wells would be safe to drink if Krishna defeated the snakes, yet it still shows as not safe. This makes no sense; will you please explain more detail about this confusion?
In Book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala page 224
A Pond in the Yamuna
The Yamuna had become a pond at the time of Krishna. This is
parallel to waters of the River of Mitsrayim having become
stagnant as we discussed in section “The Plagues and Stagnant water"
Krishna grew up at Gokul. The water of a pond in the Yamuna
River flowing near here had become poisonous because of a
snake. Krishna dove into the pond, and subdued and killed
the snake.
@Yokefellow
What are your thoughts on the plagues and the possibility of Moses defeating them in a similar way to Krishna? What exactly did Moses do to overcome these plagues, given that Krishna conquered snakes and the Exodus still occurred? Krishna was unable to keep the people safe. Why is this so? Could Moses keep the people safe so that they didn't have to leave?
@Yokefellow did Moses kill any snakes?
Aaron's snake ate the Pharaoh snake.
Exodus 7:12-13
(12) Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. (13) Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
@Yokefellow @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
@River Sea responds about: The Bible shows Hebrews wanting to leave and Pharaoh stopping Hebrews from leaving, while in the Indus Valley version, it seems people didn't want to leave yet had to for physical survival due to drought. Yet in both cases, the snakes were overcome yet failed to fulfill their desires needs. How come? Aaron's snake swallowed the Pharaohs' snake-failed desires of the Hebrews, and Krishna overcame snakes that poisoned water and failed needs for the people in the Indus Valley. So what does that mean—overcoming snakes yet failing desires and needs?
@Aupmanyav
What caused the Yamuna River to be documented and shown in past stories, such as Krishna overcoming snakes, in comparison to other rivers that changed direction of flow due to tectonic uplift?
How come there's Krishna to be written about in relation to the Yamuna River? What are these people's names in relation to other rivers that's similar to what happened to the Yamuna River? Can you tell me who these people are? Maybe you already did; can you reference this, please?
What caused Krishna to leave for an unknown place? (Yisrael)? or where would you claim? KMT black soil, then later to Israel's new kingdom? That's my question. What about the Ahar people? I learned about the Ahar people from this magazine.
From magazine
www.sanskritimagazine.com
Mention the Ahar people in Sanskriti magazine, yet I learned about the Yadavas in 1525 BC from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala research. Who were the Ahar in 2700 compared to the Yadavas in 1525 BC? The Yadavas left the Indus Valley in 1445 BC, while the Ahar people left in 1800 BC. Were there ever any relations between the Ahar and the Yadavas?
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala did explain later: The yamuna started to flow east at 2000 bce intermittently. Completely by 1500 bce. The ahar and yadavas were located in different areas about 1000 km apart. Don't know if they had a connection
@Aupmanyav do you know if Ahar and Yadavas ever had any connection?
@Aupmanyav your thinking due to many rivers has changed flow, this dismiss how Yamuna river deprived people from water, causing Exodus? Did Exodus ever happen due to other rivers that changed flow direction? Can you share detail and what tribes left?
How do many rivers dismiss a river's past stories, and what was the math in 1500 BC that was converted to KM Miles and today's dates? How did people do this?
What was the system of mathematics in 1500 BC? Not Km. Not miles. What?
km is what in math?
Google search: Kilometer, or “km,” is a unit to measure length and distance. A kilometer is similar to the measuring the unit “mile,” which is also used to measure geographical distances. Many countries use kilometers as their standard unit of measuring length and distance. 1 kilometer is equal to 1000 meters.
How come there's KM and Miles, and what type of measurements did they use in 1500 BC, and how did they convert those measurements for either km or miles when first converting those measurements from math from 1500 BC? How? Can you please explain?
How come Krishna couldn't improve the water to make it safe to drink because he fought and overcame those snakes? The water from those wells would be safe to drink if Krishna defeated the snakes, yet it still shows as not safe. This makes no sense; will you please explain more detail about this confusion?
In Book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala page 224
A Pond in the Yamuna
The Yamuna had become a pond at the time of Krishna. This is
parallel to waters of the River of Mitsrayim having become
stagnant as we discussed in section “The Plagues and Stagnant water"
Krishna grew up at Gokul. The water of a pond in the Yamuna
River flowing near here had become poisonous because of a
snake. Krishna dove into the pond, and subdued and killed
the snake.
@Yokefellow
What are your thoughts on the plagues and the possibility of Moses defeating them in a similar way to Krishna? What exactly did Moses do to overcome these plagues, given that Krishna conquered snakes and the Exodus still occurred? Krishna was unable to keep the people safe. Why is this so? Could Moses keep the people safe so that they didn't have to leave?
@Yokefellow did Moses kill any snakes?
Aaron's snake ate the Pharaoh snake.
Exodus 7:12-13
(12) Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. (13) Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
@Yokefellow @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
@River Sea responds about: The Bible shows Hebrews wanting to leave and Pharaoh stopping Hebrews from leaving, while in the Indus Valley version, it seems people didn't want to leave yet had to for physical survival due to drought. Yet in both cases, the snakes were overcome yet failed to fulfill their desires needs. How come? Aaron's snake swallowed the Pharaohs' snake-failed desires of the Hebrews, and Krishna overcame snakes that poisoned water and failed needs for the people in the Indus Valley. So what does that mean—overcoming snakes yet failing desires and needs?
@Aupmanyav
What caused the Yamuna River to be documented and shown in past stories, such as Krishna overcoming snakes, in comparison to other rivers that changed direction of flow due to tectonic uplift?
How come there's Krishna to be written about in relation to the Yamuna River? What are these people's names in relation to other rivers that's similar to what happened to the Yamuna River? Can you tell me who these people are? Maybe you already did; can you reference this, please?
What caused Krishna to leave for an unknown place? (Yisrael)? or where would you claim? KMT black soil, then later to Israel's new kingdom? That's my question. What about the Ahar people? I learned about the Ahar people from this magazine.
From magazine
2,700 Year Old Yogi in Samadhi Found in Indus Valley Archaeological Site | Sanskriti - Hinduism and Indian Culture Website
The 2,700 year old skeletal remains of an ancient yogi sitting in samadhi have been found in an Indus valley civilization archaeological site located at Balathal, Rajasthan. Many Indus Valley seals depict pictures of yogis sitting in lotus position. Here are two examples showing ancient yogis...
www.sanskritimagazine.com
Mention the Ahar people in Sanskriti magazine, yet I learned about the Yadavas in 1525 BC from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala research. Who were the Ahar in 2700 compared to the Yadavas in 1525 BC? The Yadavas left the Indus Valley in 1445 BC, while the Ahar people left in 1800 BC. Were there ever any relations between the Ahar and the Yadavas?
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala did explain later: The yamuna started to flow east at 2000 bce intermittently. Completely by 1500 bce. The ahar and yadavas were located in different areas about 1000 km apart. Don't know if they had a connection
@Aupmanyav do you know if Ahar and Yadavas ever had any connection?
@Aupmanyav your thinking due to many rivers has changed flow, this dismiss how Yamuna river deprived people from water, causing Exodus? Did Exodus ever happen due to other rivers that changed flow direction? Can you share detail and what tribes left?
How do many rivers dismiss a river's past stories, and what was the math in 1500 BC that was converted to KM Miles and today's dates? How did people do this?
All rivers migrate over time. People tend to migrate with the river.
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala @Aupmanyav
What was the system of mathematics in 1500 BC? Not Km. Not miles. What?
km is what in math?
Google search: Kilometer, or “km,” is a unit to measure length and distance. A kilometer is similar to the measuring the unirt “mile,” which is also used to measure geographical distances. Many countries use kilometers as their standard unit of measuring length and distance. 1 kilometer is equal to 1000 meters.
How come there's KM and Miles, and what type of measurements did they use in 1500 BC, and how did they convert those measurements for either km or miles when first converting those measurements from math from 1500 BC? How? Can you please explain?
How come Krishna couldn't improve the water to make it safe to drink because he fought and overcame those snakes? The water from those wells would be safe to drink if Krishna defeated the snakes, yet it still shows as not safe. This makes no sense; will you please explain more detail about this confusion?
In Book Common Prophets by @Bharat Jhunjhunwala page 224
A Pond in the Yamuna
The Yamuna had become a pond at the time of Krishna. This is
parallel to waters of the River of Mitsrayim having become
stagnant as we discussed in section “The Plagues and Stagnant water"
Krishna grew up at Gokul. The water of a pond in the Yamuna
River flowing near here had become poisonous because of a
snake. Krishna dove into the pond, and subdued and killed
the snake.
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@Yokefellow
What are your thoughts on the plagues and the possibility of Moses defeating them in a similar way to Krishna? What exactly did Moses do to overcome these plagues, given that Krishna conquered snakes and the Exodus still occurred? Krishna was unable to keep the people safe. Why is this so? Could Moses keep the people safe so that they didn't have to leave?
@Yokefellow did Moses kill any snakes?
Aaron's snake ate the Pharaoh snake.
Exodus 7:12-13
(12) Each one threw down his staff and it became a snake. But Aaron’s staff swallowed up their staffs. (13) Yet Pharaoh’s heart became hard and he would not listen to them, just as the Lord had said.
@Yokefellow @Bharat Jhunjhunwala
@River Sea responds about: The Bible shows Hebrews wanting to leave and Pharaoh stopping Hebrews from leaving, while in the Indus Valley version, it seems people didn't want to leave yet had to for physical survival due to drought. Yet in both cases, the snakes were overcome yet failed to fulfill their desires needs. How come? Aaron's snake swallowed the Pharaohs' snake-failed desires of the Hebrews, and Krishna overcame snakes that poisoned water and failed needs for the people in the Indus Valley. So what does that mean—overcoming snakes yet failing desires and needs?
@Aupmanyav
What caused the Yamuna River to be documented and shown in past stories, such as Krishna overcoming snakes, in comparison to other rivers that changed direction of flow due to tectonic uplift?
How come there's Krishna to be written about in relation to the Yamuna River? What are these people's names in relation to other rivers that's similar to what happened to the Yamuna River? Can you tell me who these people are? Maybe you already did; can you reference this, please?
What caused Krishna to leave for an unknown place? (Yisrael)? or where would you claim? KMT black soil, then later to Israel's new kingdom? That's my question. What about the Ahar people? I learned about the Ahar people from this magazine.
From magazine
2,700 Year Old Yogi in Samadhi Found in Indus Valley Archaeological Site | Sanskriti - Hinduism and Indian Culture Website
The 2,700 year old skeletal remains of an ancient yogi sitting in samadhi have been found in an Indus valley civilization archaeological site located at Balathal, Rajasthan. Many Indus Valley seals depict pictures of yogis sitting in lotus position. Here are two examples showing ancient yogis...
Mention the Ahar people in Sanskriti magazine, yet I learned about the Yadavas in 1525 BC from @Bharat Jhunjhunwala research. Who were the Ahar in 2700 compared to the Yadavas in 1525 BC? The Yadavas left the Indus Valley in 1445 BC, while the Ahar people left in 1800 BC. Were there ever any relations between the Ahar and the Yadavas?
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala did explain later: The yamuna started to flow east at 2000 bce intermittently. Completely by 1500 bce. The ahar and yadavas were located in different areas about 1000 km apart. Don't know if they had a connection
@Aupmanyav do you know if Ahar and Yadavas ever had any connection?
@Aupmanyav your thinking due to many rivers has changed flow, this dismiss how Yamuna river deprived people from water, causing Exodus? Did Exodus ever happen due to other rivers that changed flow direction? Can you share detail and what tribes left?
How do many rivers dismiss a river's past stories, and what was the math in 1500 BC that was converted to KM Miles and today's dates? How did people do this?
1 kilometre is 5/8 of a mile.
Neither kilometres or miles were used in 1500bc
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
this is not correct. do you mean that yamuna, a river of northern india became a river of south india?
yamuna did not move that much. earlier it probably merged with sarasvati. later it charted a much longer course before it merges into ganges, opened a large area to habitation, and those who lived on its course spread to the newly opened area. it was sarasvati which was the main river and not satlej or yamuna, though both the rivers brought much snow-melt water from himalayas which made sarasvati a big river. there is a possibility that at one time, even indus (sindhu in the map) emptied in sarasvati as the dry bed of nara channel indicates..
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River Sea
Well-Known Member
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala I'm sorry for asking you questions about Jesus. Please forgive me for writing about Jesus. I'm sorry.
River Sea
Well-Known Member
I'm sorry for writing about Jesus @ChristineM Please forgive me please. I don't know that much about Pilate. Please forgive me please.
@Bharat Jhunjhunwala I'm extremely sorry for writing about Pilate, please extremely forgive me. I was asking questions and wondering about during that time. I'm so sorry please forgive me.
Laws from Roman times I don't understand it all and when I ask questions I'm so sorry.
I don't understand roman time at all.
I'm sorry please forgive me.
Maybe it's best I only writing about Moses traveling, and exodus, I'm sorry for writing other areas, I'm deeply sorry. please forgive me please.
Don't be sorry, one way to learn by asking questions .