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Theists, why did god create these plants/fungi?

Father Heathen

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
 
+Xausted

+Xausted

Well-Known Member
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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although i know what the first is i am dumb founded on the others....are they all drugs?if so, then just so we could have some fun?
 
Ringer

Ringer

Jar of Clay
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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Salvia - What species are you refering to?

Ayahuasca - To purge the body of parasites

Psilocybin Mushrooms -
From Wikipedia said:
There have been calls for medical investigation of the use of synthetic and mushroom-derived psilocybin for the development of improved treatments of various mental conditions, including chronic cluster headaches, following numerous anecdotal reports of benefits. There are also several accounts of psilocybin mushrooms sending both obsessive-compulsive disorders ("OCD") and OCD-related clinical depression (both being widespread and debilitating mental health conditions) into complete remission immediately and for months at a time, compared to current medications which often have both limited efficacy and frequent undesirable side-effects.
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Cannibas - A cancer patient or those suffering with glaucoma might be able to answer that.
 
whereismynotecard

whereismynotecard

Treasure Hunter
Assuming that there is a god, I'd say he would have made them as another one of his stupid tests... He's always trying to get his little humans to do something stupid so he can send them to hell, and this is just another example.
 
Ringer

Ringer

Jar of Clay
whereismynotecard said:
Assuming that there is a god, I'd say he would have made them as another one of his stupid tests... He's always trying to get his little humans to do something stupid so he can send them to hell, and this is just another example.
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What God sends a person to hell for recreational drug use?
 
Azakel

Azakel

Liebe ist für alle da
Silly, she made them for us to us. Look at some of are Ancestors in many culture. If it was bad for us do you really think the Native Amercan would use it....? ^_^
 
logician

logician

Well-Known Member
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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Given that evolution of plants occurred, these plants were designed by the process of evolutionary change, not a supposed god, thus the plants main "purpose" was for survival.
 
Scott1

Scott1

Well-Known Member
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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Just FYI: not all theists believe that "everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind".... some questions are better left to scientists.
 
BucephalusBB

BucephalusBB

ABACABB
We humans found a use in those drugs to feel better. Just like we found uses in fire and water. This does not mean that that use was the original purpose. I think that if there is a God, the original purpose was not to dry it, put it in sigarettes and burn it, followed by inhaling. (Marihuana as example)

Rolling_Stone said:
Valid, perhaps, for 3-year old who didn't want to bring up the so-called problem of evil directly which has been done many time over in RF. Which is why most of the responding post from the same choir.
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Yes, and ofcourse your insulting posts aren't getting boring allready. :clap
 
Scuba Pete

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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Dang, I must have missed the memo about this.

I think the basic idea of a supreme being is that we suck at fully understanding why they do what they do... sometimes we even miss that they even did it, or we don't comprehend how they did it. We may not always understand the motive of an action, but that does not deny the action.
 
.lava

.lava

Veteran Member
Father Heathen said:
If everything was designed by a supreme intelligent being with a purpose in mind, what were the intentions behind cannabis, salvia, ayahuasca, psilocybin mushrooms, etc?
Just curious what people think.
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there is one verse about drugs in Qur'an. can't recall which one.

it says they can do 'good' but the bad they'd do is more than good they could offer. therefor they are dangerous.

i believe everything is an object for the same. a test. there are many things within your power to reach out. you have free will. so here you go!

check this out;

YouTube - Drunk Animals




:)
 
misanthropic_clown

misanthropic_clown

Active Member
In my view, almost everything has some kind of purpose, whether we are wise to it or not. I cannot profess to have much knowledge about the drugs you mentioned, but I would be fairly sure there is some context within which they can be used for benefit.

But as for general use, I think .lava hits the nail on the head when he says that in general, any good that can be gained by using such drugs recreationally is outweighed by the potential for harm.
 
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