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There is no evidence for God, so why do you believe?

YoursTrue

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
an anarchist said:
One would be good for starters.

How so? I’ve read it, as well as some criticisms. What separates it from other mythological tales and epics? It’s wise words are found in other religious texts, which I assume you don’t think are necessarily divinely inspired. How is the Bible definitively proof of divine authorship?

Hmm, idk about that. I’m sure the atheists on this site are good folk, just like I give the benefit of the doubt that you are.
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I do agree that part of the proof, once you understand it, is that we cannot see God. Now I didn't always believe this way until I studied the Bible. For many years I wondered and thought maybe God exists, but where is He? Then I decided there is no God although conscience comes into play. And then I at last realized there is a God that we cannot see. But He's there.
 
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ZoroKing

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SkepticThinker said:
How does someone's experience with almost dying, confirm that "there is life after death?"
Please explain.

During heart surgery, my grandfather's heart stopped beating for a few seconds and he had to be revived. When I asked him what he "saw" while he was out, he said, "Nothing, It was just like sleeping." How do you explain that? Where did his "near-death experience" go?
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but it sounds like true experience, not dreaming. so is a simulation by a higher power or an alien, it sounds real and confirms what people from all religions are saying. so why it's all made up? it can't be
 
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an anarchist said:
I’ve been reading through a couple of threads, and I see that it is said that there is no evidence for a god, it’s an unfalsifiable idea. We all agree on this? If you don’t, care to explain the evidence there is for god?
I’m in agreement. I used to believe my personal experiences to be subjective evidence for god, but I know now that’s not the case. I am not a theist anymore because I recognize I was a Christian thanks almost completely to my environment. That’s why I believed. I was brought up in it. Wasn’t because of any proof or anything,
So, theists, why do you believe? Is it mainly because of your environment and geographical location? There is no proof for god (right?), so what logically keeps you believing? Or is logic not supposed to be a factor when it comes to faith? Is it too jarring, the idea of leaving the comfort that religion and belief in a god brings?
I am curious about personal evaluations on why you believe. It can’t be because of logic, as there is no proof of god, right?
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As I have said before.....

Here is a list with all the scientific evidence for a god existing....




Here is a list with all the scientific evidence for a god not existing....




Don't get overwhelmed reading it all lol
 
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Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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We Never Know said:
Or the lists are in invisible ink and only the blessed can read them lol
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No, this shows that you are unaware of the many versions of "god" out there. Here is an easy one. Most Flat Earthers are Christians that read the Bible even more literally than creationists do. They have a Flat Earth God. Are you trying to say that science cannot demonstrate that the Earth is a sphere?
 
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We Never Know

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Subduction Zone said:
No, this shows that you are unaware of the many versions of "god" out there. Here is an easy one. Most Flat Earthers are Christians that read the Bible even more literally than creationists do. They have a Flat Earth God. Are you trying to say that science cannot demonstrate that the Earth is a sphere?
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Lol.. Whether the earth is a sphere, square, flat, octagon or a triangle.
None of that proves or disproves a god.

By your logic since there is a sun then a sun god exists lol

If the earth was flat, would that mean and be evidence of a god existing?
 
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ppp

ppp

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We Never Know said:
Lol.. Whether the earth is a sphere, square, flat, octagon or a triangle.
None of that proves or disproves a god.

By your logic since there is a sun then a sun god exists lol

If the earth was flat, would that mean and be evidence of a god existing?
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Gods with attributs that are logically contradictory are proven not to exist.
 
ppp

ppp

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We Never Know said:
Every god has some/certain attributes. Its human that give those attributes for a god. Humans are faulty silly creatures that attribute silly things to many things.
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The only gods in question are those that are proposed by humans. There are no actual gods in evidence. So, however silly humans may or may not be, there is nothing else god-wise to consider.
 
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ppp said:
The only gods in question are those that are proposed by humans. There are no actual gods in evidence. So, however silly humans may or may not be, there is nothing else god-wise to consider.
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"There are no actual gods in evidence"

See my post #5065
 
Subduction Zone

Subduction Zone

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We Never Know said:
Lol.. Whether the earth is a sphere, square, flat, octagon or a triangle.
None of that proves or disproves a god.

By your logic since there is a sun then a sun god exists lol

If the earth was flat, would that mean and be evidence of a god existing?
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No, there was no logic behind your statement.

This should not be that hard to understand. Though you may be trying to not understand again. Almost everyone that is religious will claim that their God cannot lie. So if we find strong evidence against some trait or claim of that God then that God is refuted. A Flat Earth God is refuted by a spherical Earth. The two concepts cannot coexist. That does not refute all gods.Many theists can't understand this for some reason.
 
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leroy

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Subduction Zone said:
More false claims where you ignore your past guilt. To many people know how you debate. To be honest you would have had to include references to what you have done in the past.

You were just required to admit something that everyone knew already. Something that your demand confirmed.
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You asked me to admit something that I dont grant (that is why I asked you to provide your evidence)
 
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