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There is NO Historical Evidence for Jesus

lukethethird

unknown member
Yeah, I don't think this is right.

Quiet non-belief isn't blasphemy. Here's a recent story, I'm looking for others. It's the people who do the harm, not the religious court.

Of course it's not the religious courts that are to blame, it's the fault of the victims.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Of course it's not the religious courts that are to blame, it's the fault of the victims.
No... read the article. If the person wasn't arrested and held in custody the mob that had formed could have killed the accused.

If you read the article the other example they brought, the mob actually did kill the accused before the trial. So, arresting the person, is actually a good thing sometimes. It's the zealot that is dangerous, not the religious court.

I know you really-really want to find any fault with religious people, but, you need to read up and understand. Everything isn't black and white the way you might expect.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
No... read the article. If the person wasn't arrested and held in custody the mob that had formed could have killed the accused.

If you read the article the other example they brought, the mob actually did kill the accused before the trial. So, arresting the person, is actually a good thing sometimes. It's the zealot that is dangerous, not the religious court.

I know you really-really want to find any fault with religious people, but, you need to read up and understand. Everything isn't black and white the way you might expect.
If the courts didn't have these barbaric laws in place in the first place and did not condone killing by execution in the first place it would go a long way to prevent these mobs from taking the law into their own hands. The courts are not doing anyone any favours at all.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Thanks, I appreciate that.

People can throw their lives away for a myth, that's their "God-given" right, I agree. But it's a shame because we only get one life in this current octillion years cycle of the Big Bang. One it's over that's it--you're gone forever. Might as well get some enjoyment out of it while you're here. To get philosophical for a minute, the poor kids who still-birth or die before they are five of disease, famine, natural disaster or abuse are the collateral damage of a universal system that doesn't give a damn about us. We're specks on a globe that is a speck in a galaxy that is a speck in a universe. To think that a God who created the universe can actually love a speck of a speck of a speck is so ludicrous it'd be a gut-buster if billions of people didn't actually believe such preposterous nonsense.
Haha god is the universe. Without god no specks exist.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Yes, when our solar system supernovas. Until then, I have several artistic works registered with various agencies. My name is in the historic registry. Show me a single word Jesus wrote himself. Show me a single historian who says, "I witnessed Jesus' miracles, death resurrection and zombie saints who rose from their graves and walked through Jerusalem." Jesus appeared to 500 people according to Paul. Did a single one write about seeing a man risen from the dead? Did a single historian in the list below write a single word about Jesus?

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Jesus walks the earth today
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Yeah, I don't think this is right.

Quiet non-belief isn't blasphemy. Here's a recent story, I'm looking for others. It's the people who do the harm, not the religious court.

Quiet or not quiet, any blasphemy law is immoral. Why have such a weak exemption?
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Quiet or not quiet, any blasphemy law is immoral. Why have such a weak exemption?

If the person doesn't say anything their non-belief isn't a problem.

If they start screaming fire in a crowded movie theater, that can be a problem.
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
If the courts didn't have these barbaric laws in place in the first place and did not condone killing by execution in the first place it would go a long way to prevent these mobs from taking the law into their own hands. The courts are not doing anyone any favours at all.

No.... it's the zealots that are the problem. The police might have saved that person's life.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
No, that is just a worthless tautological definition of "god". You do so in an attempt to smuggle your god in once that is accepted. People are not that easily fooled.
Haha
God is a fitting name for the universe. Can’t think of any better. Universe is just eh.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
No, that is just a worthless tautological definition of "god". You do so in an attempt to smuggle your god in once that is accepted. People are not that easily fooled.
I named my universe. Some people name their cars. Some people even name their pets. Hahahahahaha
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
When the intent is to "amend" an existing religious revelation, that tends to make me very suspicious of the legitimacy of it (re: Joseph Smith's story).
Welcome to Judaism. Welcome to Catholicism. Welcome to Islam. Welcome to protestantism. Welcome to Baha'i. Welcome to Mormonism. Welcome to the huge Urantia book, over 2000 pages of new information. Have you read it yet? Ask @cOLTER all about it.
 
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