There is NO SCIENCE in the qu'ran

[McBell]

It is no better than "adjusting" quaran quotes to match modern knowledge.

Is that not what he is doing?
Well, indirectly.
I mean he is merely quoting someone who has adjusted the koran to better fit the currently accepted science.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

i don't know how many times i've had to explain this to people, but where are they even getting the idea that there is science in the qu'ran or the bible? i've seen them come up with rediculous notions for everything, linking insanely vague sentences to embyology or cosmology or plate tectonics, like:

"And the mountains He has fixed firmly, (To be) a provision and benefit for you and your cattle." (Surat An-Nazi'at (Those Who Pull Out): 32-33)


somehow out of this vague sentence from the qu'ran, a muslim got the idea that this was somehow a scientific explanation as to how the mountains help stabilize the earth. Does it even say anything about stabilizing the earth in there? at all? it just says that the mountains aren't moving (which is wrong, scientifically speaking) and that they help cattle. How is that related to modern scientific study AT ALL?

it's not, and it really doesn't help your argument that you come up with these rediculous things when you try to mix 2 things that obviously cannot be mixed because they did not even exist within the same time frame. Modern science is incredibly young, you will find no mention of it whatsoever in any holy books that are older than 300 years.

It's an example of the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy:

The Texas sharpshooter is a fabled marksman who fires his gun randomly at the side of a barn, then paints a bullseye around the spot where the most bullet holes cluster.

Scientists have figured out various things about how the world and the universe work. Some people then go back into the Quran or the Bible and try to see if they can find anything that's apparently similar to the science we now know.

I would be impressed much more by stories of Muslim scholars upholding some fact as true for centuries based on the word of the Quran despite it going against the learned opinions of the time, only to have it now discovered that the Muslim scholars were right all along. We don't find these stories because, as you say, there's no science in the Quran.

 

[tumbleweed41]

16:68 And thy Lord inspired the bee, saying: Choose thou habitations in the hills and in the trees and in that which they thatch; 16:69 Then eat of all fruits, and follow the ways of thy Lord, made smooth (for thee). There cometh forth from their bellies a drink divers of hues, wherein is healing for mankind. Lo! herein is indeed a portent for people who reflect.
(Bees do not eat fruits)
18:86 Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness. 18:90 Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom.
(The Sun does not set or rise in a specific location of Earth, and definitively not in a muddy stream)
7:124 Surely I shall have your hands and feet cut off upon alternate sides. Then I shall crucify you every one.
20:71 (Pharaoh) said: Ye put faith in him before I give you leave. Lo! he is your chief who taught you magic. Now surely I shall cut off your hands and your feet alternately, and I shall crucify you on the trunks of palm trees, and ye shall know for certain which of us hath sterner and more lasting punishment.
(Crucifixion was a Roman punishment, not an Egyptian one before the Romans ever came to power)
24:43 Hast thou not seen how Allah wafteth the clouds, then gathereth them, then maketh them layers, and thou seest the rain come forth from between them; He sendeth down from the heaven mountains wherein is hail, and smiteth therewith whom He will, and averteth it from whom He will. The flashing of His lightning all but snatcheth away the sight
(Hail comes from mountains?)


Etc, etc.....

 

[gnostic]

I would be impressed much more by stories of Muslim scholars upholding some fact as true for centuries based on the word of the Quran despite it going against the learned opinions of the time, only to have it now discovered that the Muslim scholars were right all along.

I would be more impressed if there was a single mathematical equation in the Qur'an that can be scientifically proven.

I am far more impressed with ancient Greek philosophers in the field of science than the Qur'an and the Muslims' claims of scientific miracles. It was the Greeks, who first put forward that the earth rotates in axis (Heraclides Ponticus), it was the Greeks who did a fairly accurate calculation of the earth's circumference (Eratosthenes), it was the Greeks who first documented the helio-centric planetary system (Aristarchus). This was all done through observations and logic, and the thirst for knowledge.

The medieval Muslim scientists had this thirst for knowledge, and did so without the Qur'an, but through their own inquiring minds. The same can't be said of Muslims of today, trying to take away credits of modern scientists and give it to the Qur'an. That to me, is the sign of Muslim's desperation and impotency, because they lacked the intelligence of their medieval forefathers, so they resort to deceptions and false claims.