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There should be no atheists!

Would there be atheists if I were God?

  • I doubt it!

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • I'm guessing there would be

    Votes: 6 42.9%
  • Far FAR less than what we currently have, if Spiderman were God!

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • Total voters
    14

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Thats your created version. Its your own thing.

Every tom dick and harry can create his own thing and say "I am white, you are all dirty".

Absolutely invalid.

I am using your own standards.

Your religion is as murderous as murder, genocide and promoting suicide as could be.
You prove to me, right now, what other Doctrine Shinto declares to be true, other than "belief in Kami, the dead become Kami".??

Also, tell me, which violent text does Shinto push and declare to be Divinely inspired, without error??

I'm waiting......


Once again, you speak lies. I can show you calls to violence and graphic tortures, hate, and bigotry in the Quran. I can prove Islamic regimes oppress hundreds of millions of people and outlaw freedom of Religion and free speech, in the 21st century!!!

You cannot, and have never provided a single Shinto Doctrine or inerrant Shinto text that calls people to violence for religious reasons, hatred, and bigotry!

EPIC FAIL! YOU LOSE! ;)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
What I mean is, provide an inerrant Shinto Scripture text that promotes such hate, bigotry, violence!
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
If indeed God wants people to believe in him, that means he prefers people are NOT atheists. That would mean God finds fault with Atheism. Can you see what I'm trying to say??
I see what you try to say. Key here is "IF indeed God wants"

What I try to say is:
People who do NOT know God
claim to know what God wants

Can you see what I'm trying to say?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I see what you try to say. Key here is "IF indeed God wants"

What I try to say is:
People who do NOT know God
claim to know what God wants

Can you see what I'm trying to say?
So, I do not know that God wants that.

If we are talking about the Bible, yes, that God does indeed want people to believe in him. He makes it crystal clear through the prophets.

So, according to the Bible, God does not want Atheism! Therefore, the Bible God sees something wrong with it. You see my point?
 

Wildswanderer

Veteran Member
But he doesn't want people to believe because they have to. He wants people who choose faith. There's always room for doubt. You can even doubt your own existence.
So, I do not know that God wants that.

If we are talking about the Bible, yes, that God does indeed want people to believe in him. He makes it crystal clear through the prophets.

So, according to the Bible, God does not want Atheism! Therefore, the Bible God sees something wrong with it. You see my point?
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Being all knowing and all powerful, I would know how to keep you euphoric, amused, and entertained for centuries.

How could you call that dull? I would give you beautiful islands, Island girls with perfect bodies and breasts, or whatever you desire, keep you excited, with healthy euphoric chemicals to consume, drink, and smoke, and each day full of surprises, and you would evolve constantly into something greater, with new amusement, fun, and entertainment!

Are you certain that would get dull though, if your funny bone was tickled, and you were laughing hysterically each day, with beautiful islands, island girls, and fun! :D
Tell me about the liquor cabinet ─ the wines, the rums and the whiskies.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Tell me about the liquor cabinet ─ the wines, the rums and the whiskies.
It would work on every pleasure receptor imaginable, and even come out of the tap and faucet.

You could have bathtubs full of it.

And it would come in different types that work on every pleasure receptor imaginable, as well as I would invent new neurotransmitters, pleasure receptors, and hormones.

Divine drink of the gods, drink of dragons, drink of your dreams! :)
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It would work on every pleasure receptor imaginable, and even come out of the tap and faucet.

You could have bathtubs full of it.

And it would come in different types that work on every pleasure receptor imaginable, as well as I would invent new neurotransmitters, pleasure receptors, and hormones.

Divine drink of the gods, drink of dragons, drink of your dreams! :)
Now that IS cool ─ very cool.

Where do I sign?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
You prove to me, right now, what other Doctrine Shinto declares to be true, other than "belief in Kami, the dead become Kami".??

Also, tell me, which violent text does Shinto push and declare to be Divinely inspired, without error??

I'm waiting......


Once again, you speak lies. I can show you calls to violence and graphic tortures, hate, and bigotry in the Quran. I can prove Islamic regimes oppress hundreds of millions of people and outlaw freedom of Religion and free speech, in the 21st century!!!

You cannot, and have never provided a single Shinto Doctrine or inerrant Shinto text that calls people to violence for religious reasons, hatred, and bigotry!

EPIC FAIL! YOU LOSE! ;)

Your strategy.

1. Invent a religion.
2. Call it "Shintoism"
3. Reject all Shinto so called "Scripture" that is born of genocide and suicide.
4. Nor insult other religions and spread hatred.

Nice.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Your strategy.

1. Invent a religion.
2. Call it "Shintoism"
3. Reject all Shinto so called "Scripture" that is born of genocide and suicide.
4. Nor insult other religions and spread hatred.

Nice.
There is no Shinto Scriptures promoting or born of genocide and suicide.

I pointed out to you easily verifiable facts in the Quran. I said why I object to them.

I pointed out regimes oppress hundreds of millions of people in the 21st century. It is easily verifiable fact!

There is much good in the Quran and Islam. I'm just saying harsh judgements and bigotry, that causes Saudi Arabia and certain countries to not have freedom, no churches, no synagogues, no freedom for Polytheists, it hurts me! That is complete bigotry. How can you argue otherwise??

Let me ask you, should a loving person remain silent and indifferent when hundreds of millions are robbed of freedom of speech and Religion and brainwashed?

Is that the loving thing to do?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
There is no Shinto Scriptures promoting or born of genocide and suicide.

You have invented your own religion calling it Shintoism mate. So for you, you will pick anything and leave anything as you please. All just to insult other religions.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
You have invented your own religion calling it Shintoism mate. So for you, you will pick anything and leave anything as you please. All just to insult other religions.
I follow all the inerrant Doctrines one must embrace to be a Shinto adherent. I keep a Kamidana (shelf to enshrined Kami), keep a book of souls, have a mikoshi portable shrine, have a prayer wall, keep a Honden (room closed off to the general public reserved for enshrined Kami).

Shinto gives me liberty to follow my conscience, and Shinto has no inerrant sacred Scripture text that calls people to violence, bigotry, or hate!

It is true that many of the writings that some Shinto adherents follow, I don't believe in, but Shinto does NOT declare anyone must believe in those writings, does not declare they were inspired by Kami, and does NOT declare those writings to be without error.

Shinto grants me the liberty to do just that!

You need to learn what Shinto actually is and teaches , before you say someone does not qualify as Shinto!
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
I follow all the inerrant Doctrines one must embrace to be a Shinto adherent.

Not really. You made this religion up. Just named it Shintoism. And now your most important work is to be the great guy with a great religion you just made up insulting other religions and demonising them while also loving them which is also your way of making yourself the nice guy with a great religion you just made up.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Not really. You made this religion up. Just named it Shintoism. And now your most important work is to be the great guy with a great religion you just made up insulting other religions and demonising them while also loving them which is also your way of making yourself the nice guy with a great religion you just made up.
If you knew anything about Shinto, you would know it is a Religion that has almost no Dogma, gives people the liberty to follow their conscience, and does NOT declare they must adhere to some Ancient text!
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
If you knew anything about Shinto, you would know it is a Religion that has almost no Dogma, gives people the liberty to follow their conscience, and does NOT declare they must adhere to some Ancient text!

So a made up religion for you to stand on and insult other religions not hearing any of the teachings but only using your insults.

Ill show you. Shintoism is the most dangerous religion in the whole world because it teaches genocide, mass murder in mass scale, and suicide all over the place. And nothing you say will even touch up the large holes in it. No one needs to listen to your whitewashing just like you do unto others. ;)

Its a murderous religion.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
The first line was fine too.
The fact you disagreed with it is absolutely irrelevant as to whether it was fine.
It was fine (if you see everything as fine), but @Spiderman should have phrased it as his opinion, unless he knows "what God exactly wants"
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
It was fine (if you see everything as fine), but @Spiderman should have phrased it as his opinion, unless he knows "what God exactly wants"

A fact doesn't need to be stated as an opinion.
The sentence you disagreed with has nothing to do with what God wants.
 
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