There should be no atheists!

[InChrist]

So you claim.

No me, I would have no more clue than you or anybody. The Bible claims it, which I consider the Creators revelation to humanity so we know what is going on. Of course, we are free to believe it or make up ideas from our own imagination.

 

[lukethethird]

No me, I would have no more clue than you or anybody. The Bible claims it, which I consider the Creators revelation to humanity so we know what is going on. Of course, we are free to believe it or make up ideas from our own imagination.

What you consider is unevidenced.

 

[InChrist]

What you consider is unevidenced.

I find enough evidence to satisfy myself that God, exists and the Bible is accurate.

 

[lukethethird]

I find enough evidence to satisfy myself that God, exists and the Bible is accurate.

So you claim, but I still see no evidence of such extraordinary claims that you are making.

 

[InChrist]

So you claim, but I still see no evidence of such extraordinary claims that you are making.

Okay, that’s fine. I hope you don’t accept any claims I make and don’t expect you to. If you really want evidence or desire the truth, then I do hope you seek it from God alone. I don’t doubt His ability to provide you with adequate evidence that you’ll understand.

 

[ppp]

Incredible your ignorance!

There is not a current Shinto Theocracy oppressing millions. Your Religion oppresses hundreds of millions.

There is no sacred inerrant Shinto text where a God commands any violence at all. Your sacred text is inerrant, and glorifies torture, amputations, jihad, and bigotry.

Also, your hypocrisy is of epic proportions! Shinto is simply "Belief in the Kami". You believe in Allah who is Kami (Spirit/God), and you believe in Angels, so you already believe in what is required to believe to be an authentic Shinto. So your condemnation of Shinto, is condemnation of what you believe. Bad move!

The difference between Shinto and your Religion, is Shinto does not have an inerrant scripture text or Doctrines that commands bigotry and violence.

You on the other hand have that!

So, your pointing the finger at Shinto caused you to condemn yourself! Not wise!

Are kami even gods? Ii would think they would better translate as numina or elementals.

 

[lukethethird]

Okay, that’s fine. I hope you don’t accept any claims I make and don’t expect you to. If you really want evidence or desire the truth, then I do hope you seek it from God alone. I don’t doubt His ability to provide you with adequate evidence that you’ll understand.

Do you desire the truth?

 

[Spiderman]

Are kami even gods? Ii would think they would better translate as numina or elementals.

Not all of the Kami are Gods. Most of the enshrined Kami are spirits of dead people. Yasukuni Shrine has more than 2 million Kami wardead enshrined in a book of souls, in one Honden (structure closed off from general public, reserved for enshrined Kami) alone.

From what I see, all evidence is that the vast majority of enshrined Kami in Japan were incarnate people at one time.

Even Japanese Christians call God " Kami" though, because I can pray the Hail Mary in Japanese, and "Mother of God" contains the word Kami in it.

So Kami can mean God. Usually it does not. Kami can be an Angel or ghost or Demon as well.

Over 90% of earth believes in the Kami, which is the only Doctrine in Shinto, so it would make a great global one world religion, because it is so compatible with them all!

 

[ppp]

Not all of the Kami are Gods. Most of the enshrined Kami are spirits of dead people. Yasukuni Shrine has more than 2 million Kami wardead enshrined in a book of souls, in one Honden (structure closed off from general public, reserved for enshrined Kami) alone.

From what I see, all evidence is that the vast majority of enshrined Kami in Japan were incarnate people at one time.

Even Japanese Christians call God " Kami" though, because I can pray the Hail Mary in Japanese, and "Mother of God" contains the word Kami in it.

So Kami can mean God. Usually it does not. Kami can be an Angel or ghost or Demon as well.

Over 90% of earth believes in the Kami, which is the only Doctrine in Shinto, so it would make a great global one world religion, because it is so compatible with them all!

I was with you till that last paragraph. No Christian or Muslim will agree with you.

 

[Spiderman]

I was with you till that last paragraph. No Christian or Muslim will agree with you.

I meant it in the context of "belief in the Kami" , is a compatible Doctrine with all non atheist religions.

 

[ppp]

I meant it in the context of "belief in the Kami" , is a compatible Doctrine with all non atheist religions.

Ah. From the Shinto side. I get you.

 

[Bird123]

If God actually did his job as a Father, friend, and Shepherd, HUGE atheist regimes like the Soviet Union wouldn't rise, and there would NOT be atheists. Every one would be A Theist!

This much is obvious!

Were I God, people would see my face and hear my voice!

What percentage of the world population would NOT BELIEVE IN ME??

I think we can all agree that there is a poster at this website named spiderman. Some of you have seen my Spider YouTubes and can verify I'm the guy in the avatar.

Some might disagree as to how ugly I am , but I think we can all agree that I exist.

The same would be true if I were God. You could see my ugly face and hear my words, because I would want all souls to believe in me and avoid being tossed into a lake of fire.

Each soul has one short life on this earth, and God is love, so I want you all in heaven with me.

So, rationally, using common friggin sense and reason, I would show you my face, send you emails and YouTube's, appear to you, have a Divine Twitter account as well, and being omnipresent, I would appear to everyone, and speak to them.

Who would not believe in me??

How many atheists would there be in our world if I were God??

Therefore, God is the reason for Atheism, God is at fault for Atheism!

It is a DIRECT consequence of what he did and continues to fail to do!!

But I love you lord! I just don't like your choices! Blessed be God forever!

Choose the best answer in the poll!

Hmmm? I guess you do not understand God at all. The difference between God and you is that with God, it has never ever been about God. It is about God's children.

As God, would you be ruling, controlling, intimidating, wrathful, angry, hateful, vengeful, insisting on payback, coercing and demanding??? Seems you want to eliminate the choice of being an atheist. Why??

I say atheists are needed to interact with theists. Both have a side the other needs to see. Atheists pull theists back to a reality that must add up. Beliefs so often lead away from the Real Truth. Theists show atheists more exists beyond the physical world we live in. We are Spiritual Beings in our True natures.

I see God's system as a Masterpiece. Sure, it isn't about simply having it made. On the other hand, everyone is on the path to perfection, choosing freely what they want or need to learn through those free choices.

Look around you. All the secrets of the universe stare us all in the face. We are being guided to Greatness through our own choices. It has never ever been about God. God is Unconditional. It is about each of us.

God gave everyone a different view to guaranty mankind a larger view than any one person could have. I wouldn't be so quick to get rid of the views of others. You never know how that might change things. I say: Place your Truth in the world, then make no demands. Each must Discover the Real Truth for themselves. Forcing or Demanding Truth will not result in the Understanding, Intelligence, and the Wisdom that is to come.

Worry not!! Everyone is going to make it given enough time. When one Understands all sides, Intelligence will make the Best Choices. How could that ever happen if a side or a view is missing?

God works on multiple levels with multiple views. This multi-angular displacement has much to see before really Great choices can be made. I think one should be well down the path before an attempt to be God should be made. If not, one could find oneself creating a bigger mess than one could ever imagine.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!