this is a strang question...

[PHOTOTAKER]

i ask this only becouse the news media is confusing me...

are Muslim and Islam differnt in any way? i am just trying to understand why the media likes to make a two seem differnt and if they are how... if you don't understand i'll try to clarify...

 

[PHOTOTAKER]

Islam is the religion. Muslims are the followers.

thank you...

 

[Djamila]

jmoum has it right, Photo.

You have Islam, as the faith. Islamic, as the adjective (Islamic architecture, Islamic dance, etc.)

You have Muslim as "one who submits", or - in the Western sense - one who practices Islam.

Then you have Mumin as well, which is found more or less only in the Muslim world. It means "one who believes", and it's a step above Muslim.

 

[Hacker]

jmoum has it right, Photo.

You have Islam, as the faith. Islamic, as the adjective (Islamic architecture, Islamic dance, etc.)

You have Muslim as "one who submits", or - in the Western sense - one who practices Islam.

Then you have Mumin as well, which is found more or less only in the Muslim world. It means "one who believes", and it's a step above Muslim.

I hope this isn't a strange question, but do Muslims celebrate Christmas?

 

[GiveCharity]

I hope this isn't a strange question, but do Muslims celebrate Christmas?

Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet along with Moses and Muhummad (peace be upon them). Muhummad (PBUH) was the last prophet sent; he completed God's revelation which Adam, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc. also spread. Although we hold Jesus (pbuh) in equal status with Muhummad, we only worship and celebrat God. Also, historically, the date of Jesus' birth is not known. December 25th was originally a pagan holiday for a sun god. Strong historical evidence suggests that Christians adopted sept. 25 as the day of birth of Jesus (pbuh) in order to attract the pagans to converting.

this christian website even says that they don't know when Jesus was born:
www-gotquestions.org/December-25.html

if you look up Christmas on Wikipedia you get a similar answer.

I can't post url's since I am a new member

 

[GiveCharity]

Strong historical evidence suggests that Christians adopted sept. 25 as the day ...

I meant December 25th

 

[Tigress]

The Islamic Calendar, which includes important dates.

 

[TashaN]

Muslims do not celebrate Christmas. Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet along with Moses and Muhummad (peace be upon them). Muhummad (PBUH) was the last prophet sent; he completed God's revelation which Adam, Abraham, Jesus, Moses, etc. also spread. Although we hold Jesus (pbuh) in equal status with Muhummad, we only worship and celebrat God. Also, historically, the date of Jesus' birth is not known. December 25th was originally a pagan holiday for a sun god. Strong historical evidence suggests that Christians adopted sept. 25 as the day of birth of Jesus (pbuh) in order to attract the pagans to converting.

this christian website even says that they don't know when Jesus was born:
www-gotquestions.org/December-25.html

if you look up Christmas on Wikipedia you get a similar answer.

I can't post url's since I am a new member

Well said.

 

[PHOTOTAKER]

You're welcome. That was the easy part. Now I'm trying to figure out how exactly the Media could portray them as two different things. I kind of figured they'd be smarter than that.

there was a person on the news saying that muslim belive one thing and islam belives something else... (i don't remember that much i missed the begging which wasn't much i cought it later) but i thought there are differnt denominations that all are muslims under islam that was what i understood before and i though i missed something about everything when he said what he said, but i didn't; the new as normal missed up...

 

[TashaN]

there was a person on the news saying that muslim belive one thing and islam belives something else... (i don't remember that much i missed the begging which wasn't much i cought it later) but i thought there are differnt denominations that all are muslims under islam that was what i understood before and i though i missed something about everything when he said what he said, but i didn't; the new as normal missed up...

OK, Let me try this. I guess it means that what many muslims and any muslim do now might not mean that what he/she did is based on his/her religion "Islam". In another word, a muslim is a normal human being like anybody else who might follow islam and be a practicing muslim, or ignore the real teaching of Islam and might be evil and a bad person for instance. So, the separation might be about Islam on theory and between a Muslim "only in name" who is entitled as a muslim but in fact he/she might not follow the real teaching of Islam but people insist that what he/she did is just because of his religion which is totally wrong.

I just hope what i'm talking about in here makes sense to you.

 

[john313]

i was speaking with an arab gal who lives in northern africa the other day and she was saying that most people there are 'muslim' by birth, similar to the way most americans(where i was born) are considered christians by birth even though their actions do not reflect the teachings of christianity much of the time. being a real muslim is the same as being a real child of israel or a real christian(follower ofthe teachings of christ), it simply means one who follows the path of God. the practice of islam is submission to this path. islam, like all prophetic teachings, teaches peace and forgiveness and the like, but those called muslims many times do not.
-there is a hadith that says in the end times those calling thmselves muslim will be the furthest thing from it.

peace

 

[PHOTOTAKER]

OK, Let me try this. I guess it means that what many muslims and any muslim do now might not mean that what he/she did is based on his/her religion "Islam". In another word, a muslim is a normal human being like anybody else who might follow islam and be a practicing muslim, or ignore the real teaching of Islam and might be evil and a bad person for instance. So, the separation might be about Islam on theory and between a Muslim "only in name" who is entitled as a muslim but in fact he/she might not follow the real teaching of Islam but people insist that what he/she did is just because of his religion which is totally wrong.

I just hope what i'm talking about in here makes sense to you.

mostly i do understand what you are saying, but the impression that i got from this stroy was that Muslims and Islam are two completely differnt religion which isn't right...(we made the point that Islam is the relition and Muslims are there follower)

i thank the media just makes things up to make a good story... and confusing people just makes it better... it one resign the i only watch the new about 1-1/2 hours a week and its mostly for the weather... i can't do anything in other parts of the world, but there is somthing i can do next store...