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This is the reason why I say Democrats infiltrate political parties in order to do damage.

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's a disgusting and destructive practice, and I think it should be illegal to do something like this wither a person happens to be a Democrat infiltrating Republicans to upsurge the party, or vice versa, a Republican infiltrating Democrats.

What am I talking about? ..

Why Democrats Could Consider Registering Republican To Stop Trump | HuffPost

Nobody should promote or do these kind of underhanded tatics legally. Although the article says, "Democrats could consider"..... I tend to think Democrats already are doing it, and have been for awhile now, including and not limited to those who ran for, and have, taken office being paid taxpayers dollars in return for no representation. Ah la, RINO.

One of the various reasons why I voted for Trump involves "Purging the house of RINOS" which is exactly what he's been doing as far as I can tell. The reason in my opinion the GOP is in an " uproar" is because of it's infiltrated Democrat members who have been found out and caught.

As far as I'm concerned, every single RINO needs to be purged from the Republican Party. It's no surprise to me and I'm pretty convinced that Democrats have been doing this a long time now in order to sabotage the Republican Party's effectiveness and capability to fulfill it's established mission statements.

I can't think of a more corrupt and disgusting party than Democrats who think along these lines.

Conversely and In fairness, if Republicans do these things, they should get the same kind of treatment back in kind.

What shocks me the most is this isn't considered illegal and no penalty for doing so. I've actually found something worse than special interest lobbying.

My message to scumbag Democrats who do these kind of things, get the hell out of my party.

For those Republicans who do the same type of thing to Democrats, sod off and join the Democrats And people wonder why our nation is the way it is. /Rant
 
What shocks me the most is this isn't considered illegal and no penalty for doing so. I've actually found something worse than special interest lobbying.


This kind of thing starts at the top. Political parties and the media create a "win at all costs" good/evil dichotomy which politicians and special interest groups cultivate whenever it suits them.

You are really getting angry at a minor symptom of the toxic culture created by the US brand of professional politics. Reserving your most vitriolic ire for a few people who likely make very little difference in the grand scheme of things seems a bit misplaced to me.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Nobody should promote or do these kind of underhanded tatics legally. Although the article says, "Democrats could consider"..... I tend to think Democrats already are doing it, and have been for awhile now, including and not limited to those who ran for, and have, taken office being paid taxpayers dollars in return for no representation. Ah la, RINO.
Both sides are doing it. When it was still being decided if it would be Obama or Clinton to go against McCain, some Republicans voted in the Dem primaries to vote for Hillary because McCain would have had an easier time against her.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
No one has to switch parties for Trump to lose. I doubt he makes it another year.

He never wanted to be president and has to deal with it. He thinks he's above the presidency.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No one has to switch parties for Trump to lose. I doubt he makes it another year.

He never wanted to be president and has to deal with it. He thinks he's above the presidency.
This is a Left-biased talking point parroted around by those off in la-la land. Sure, it could happen, but if you don't live in the realms of those who have been calling for impeachment since day one, out here in reality, we realize that's something you just can't count on. Midterm win or lose, Republicans don't have much of a reason to impeach him. But they stand to have a good chunk of voters to risk losing if they do, and it may be those voters who decide the midterms.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
This is a Left-biased talking point parroted around by those off in la-la land. Sure, it could happen, but if you don't live in the realms of those who have been calling for impeachment since day one, out here in reality, we realize that's something you just can't count on. Midterm win or lose, Republicans don't have much of a reason to impeach him. But they stand to have a good chunk of voters to risk losing if they do, and it may be those voters who decide the midterms.
Nice to see some folks still have their heads connected to their bodies. :)

In regards to the OP, "Meh!"
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This kind of thing starts at the top. Political parties and the media create a "win at all costs" good/evil dichotomy which politicians and special interest groups cultivate whenever it suits them.

You are really getting angry at a minor symptom of the toxic culture created by the US brand of professional politics. Reserving your most vitriolic ire for a few people who likely make very little difference in the grand scheme of things seems a bit misplaced to me.
It's hardly minor. You're talking about paid people with the power to make policy and changes that affects everyone living here in the states. To me that's not minor in the least. I think a great deal of our problems has been by those "few" people monkeying and gumming up the works to the point where government grinds to a halt on very important and sensitive issues.

If I had a nickel for everybody who said it's only a "few" people......

I suppose in a more direct sense, my $64,000 Question is, "Why is this even legal"?

Like special interest, this is yet another reason why we are so screwed up as a country.

If this doesn't get fixed and people don't start pulling their heads out of the sand, mark my words as evidenced by this thread years down the road that this behavior, provided it's allowed to continue, is going to really and seriously harm us as a nation at some point in the future in some irreparable fashion.

If there's anything campaign reform needs, it's to address this particularly serious problem.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
This is a Left-biased talking point parroted around by those off in la-la land. Sure, it could happen, but if you don't live in the realms of those who have been calling for impeachment since day one, out here in reality, we realize that's something you just can't count on. Midterm win or lose, Republicans don't have much of a reason to impeach him. But they stand to have a good chunk of voters to risk losing if they do, and it may be those voters who decide the midterms.
Could, no. That's being pretty naive.

It does happen. We wouldn't have terms like RINO and DINO for those who have been called out otherwise.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
It's a disgusting and destructive practice, and I think it should be illegal to do something like this wither a person happens to be a Democrat infiltrating Republicans to upsurge the party, or vice versa, a Republican infiltrating Democrats.

What am I talking about? ..

Why Democrats Could Consider Registering Republican To Stop Trump | HuffPost

Nobody should promote or do these kind of underhanded tatics legally. Although the article says, "Democrats could consider"..... I tend to think Democrats already are doing it, and have been for awhile now, including and not limited to those who ran for, and have, taken office being paid taxpayers dollars in return for no representation. Ah la, RINO.

One of the various reasons why I voted for Trump involves "Purging the house of RINOS" which is exactly what he's been doing as far as I can tell. The reason in my opinion the GOP is in an " uproar" is because of it's infiltrated Democrat members who have been found out and caught.

As far as I'm concerned, every single RINO needs to be purged from the Republican Party. It's no surprise to me and I'm pretty convinced that Democrats have been doing this a long time now in order to sabotage the Republican Party's effectiveness and capability to fulfill it's established mission statements.

I can't think of a more corrupt and disgusting party than Democrats who think along these lines.

Conversely and In fairness, if Republicans do these things, they should get the same kind of treatment back in kind.

What shocks me the most is this isn't considered illegal and no penalty for doing so. I've actually found something worse than special interest lobbying.

My message to scumbag Democrats who do these kind of things, get the hell out of my party.

For those Republicans who do the same type of thing to Democrats, sod off and join the Democrats And people wonder why our nation is the way it is. /Rant


You don't think Republicans cross over in states that allow it?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You don't think Republicans cross over in states that allow it?
I dunno. But to go ahead and register "legally" as your own tool of opposition for the purpose of manipulation in regards to an outcome of an election.......

And in the same bold breath, here we have a lot of the left loudly complaining about legalities concerning Russian manipulation of the elections.......

What kind of signal does that send to people?
 
It's hardly minor. You're talking about paid people with the power to make policy and changes that affects everyone living here in the states. To me that's not minor in the least. I think a great deal of our problems has been by those "few" people monkeying and gumming up the works to the point where government grinds to a halt on very important and sensitive issues.

If I had a nickel for everybody who said it's only a "few" people......

The "few people" monkeying up the system are those at the top of the tree in politics, lobbying and the media.

I suppose in a more direct sense, my $64,000 Question is, "Why is this even legal"?

Why is it legal for people to democratically choose the leaders of political parties? Seems to be the American way.

If this doesn't get fixed and people don't start pulling their heads out of the sand, mark my words as evidenced by this thread years down the road that this behavior, provided it's allowed to continue, is going to really and seriously harm us as a nation at some point in the future in some irreparable fashion.

If there's anything campaign reform needs, it's to address this particularly serious problem.

If your main concern is a small number of Democrats voting for a Republican in Republican primaries, can't say I agree with your evaluation regarding the major problems in your political system.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Could, no. That's being pretty naive.

It does happen. We wouldn't have terms like RINO and DINO for those who have been called out otherwise.
We have those terms because extremists in the parties sometimes hate having moderates and bipartisan centrists under the same tent they are.

Sorry dude, it's those extremists that are the real problem.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
We have those terms because extremists in the parties sometimes hate having moderates and bipartisan centrists under the same tent they are.

Sorry dude, it's those extremists that are the real problem.
Tom
Then they should go to the party, or whatever party they actually believe in and become moderates in their own right.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
I suppose in a more direct sense, my $64,000 Question is, "Why is this even legal"?
What possible reason would there be to legislate for partisan ideological purity? Citizens can vote however they want to. And the parties are purely private concerns, if someone runs for office as a Republican then they are a Republican. That's that.

You're talking about paid people with the power to make policy and changes that affects everyone living here in the states.
There's no legal status to Party affiliation at all. Either the office holder won the election or they didn't. Nobody has a right to be represented by a Party.
This rant of yours is ridiculous and the partisanship you are demonstrating is a far bigger problem than bipartisan centrists.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What possible reason would there be to legislate for partisan ideological purity? Citizens can vote however they want to. And the parties are purely private concerns, if someone runs for office as a Republican then they are a Republican. That's that.


There's no legal status to Party affiliation at all. Either the office holder won the election or they didn't. Nobody has a right to be represented by a Party.
This rant of yours is ridiculous and the partisanship you are demonstrating is a far bigger problem than bipartisan centrists.
Tom
Hardly ridiculous. Ever wonder why people bother to make mission statements respective to each party?

What anything goes now? Sounds pretty typical today.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Hardly ridiculous. Ever wonder why people bother to make mission statements respective to each party?

What anything goes now? Sounds pretty typical today.
Have you got an actual point to make or not?
If someone runs for office and wins, their party affiliation should not matter after that. They are in office to do the people's business, Not the Party's. This sort of Party first, country second, attitude is a far worse problem than moderate bipartisanship.
Tom
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Why should you be the arbiter of who is sufficiently pure to be a member of a particular political party?
Tom
The same reason why anybody would choose a distinctive party that shares with kindred minds ones politically oriented ideals and views.

If you're going to have a viable working party then purity and continuity is essential if it's going to work. True also for the other side or sides.
 
Then they should go to the party, or whatever party they actually believe in and become moderates in their own right.

You can vote for your preferred Democratic candidate or your preferred Republican candidate. People may choose to vote in the way that they best believe represents their interests. Voting according to your interests is a standard component of democracy.

If a few Democrats believe that their vote is better spent on a moderate Republican what is the big deal?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
It's a disgusting and destructive practice, and I think it should be illegal to do something like this wither a person happens to be a Democrat infiltrating Republicans to upsurge the party, or vice versa, a Republican infiltrating Democrats.

What am I talking about? ..

Why Democrats Could Consider Registering Republican To Stop Trump | HuffPost

Nobody should promote or do these kind of underhanded tatics legally. Although the article says, "Democrats could consider"..... I tend to think Democrats already are doing it, and have been for awhile now, including and not limited to those who ran for, and have, taken office being paid taxpayers dollars in return for no representation. Ah la, RINO.

One of the various reasons why I voted for Trump involves "Purging the house of RINOS" which is exactly what he's been doing as far as I can tell. The reason in my opinion the GOP is in an " uproar" is because of it's infiltrated Democrat members who have been found out and caught.

As far as I'm concerned, every single RINO needs to be purged from the Republican Party. It's no surprise to me and I'm pretty convinced that Democrats have been doing this a long time now in order to sabotage the Republican Party's effectiveness and capability to fulfill it's established mission statements.

I can't think of a more corrupt and disgusting party than Democrats who think along these lines.

Conversely and In fairness, if Republicans do these things, they should get the same kind of treatment back in kind.

What shocks me the most is this isn't considered illegal and no penalty for doing so. I've actually found something worse than special interest lobbying.

My message to scumbag Democrats who do these kind of things, get the hell out of my party.

For those Republicans who do the same type of thing to Democrats, sod off and join the Democrats And people wonder why our nation is the way it is. /Rant
"LOOK OVER THERE"
 
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