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Those Darned Russians at it Again at World Cup-Hot Girls and even Hotter Diarrhea

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
Apparently it is claimed that Russians are going to use laxatives, attractive women, and trained football hooligans to subvert England at the world cup.

Russia World Cup threat: Putin could order 'honey trap' on England players | UK | News | Express.co.uk

Russophobia is a mental disease and it is getting worse
I don't know, this paranoia comes with good reason. It is very tough to trust a nation that had to compete this year under a neutral flag in the olympics because they cheated. For a reason beyond my understanding, the ethical bar in Russia seems to be pathetically low in a couple of different categories. Athletics being one of them.
 

Srivijaya

Active Member
Russian women are so attractive, dangerous and evil but we have to resist goddamit! Just look at this - don't say you weren't warned:
 

ajay0

Well-Known Member
The American military-industrial complex and action film industry needs the russians for its survival and daily bread and butter.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
While I think almost everything about Russia gets exaggerated these days, sometimes there's a grain of truth to them not always playing with their cards up.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
When did autocractic oligarchy become so popular with US conservatives?
Tom

I don't know about conservatives, but I grew up fearing Russia during the Cold War. It was for that reason I wanted to learn more about them. I learned the language, read their books, studied their history, visited the country. I wouldn't necessarily consider myself an "expert," but I came to realize that their position and perspective on the world has a background to it. There are reasons they do what they do. I find that a lot of Westerners truly misread the Russians because they really don't understand them. Or they're looking at them through Western eyes.

I can't explain everything they do, and as far as whatever autocratic government they have at present, my view is that the Russians themselves will sort that out in their own time eventually. They've done it before. Putin may be popular at present, and that may be due to the Russians possibly feeling a bit cornered with all the hostility they've been getting lately.

I don't know about these supposed "honey traps." I wouldn't automatically assume that just because a woman is Russian that she's some kind of spy. At least the ones I've known were pretty honest, intelligent, enlightened, educated.

I think we should keep our eyes open with Russia and their government. Putin is a mobster, and I think even the Russians realize this, but he's all they have at the moment. They've endured numerous invasions, Tsars, they endured Stalin, they endured years of Nazi attacks and mass murder. They will endure Putin.

But I think we should be cautious and restrained from getting too caught up in the anti-Russian fervor that seems to be generating. That doesn't seem like it can come to any good.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
When did autocractic oligarchy become so popular with US conservatives?
Tom

They only dope up their Olympians, kill political dissenters and nosy journalists, poison ex-spies, and assist proxy puppets in attacking civilians with chemical weapons. What's the big deal?:rolleyes:
Apparently for conservatives, ethics and integrity go out the window when it comes to their own and their apparent allies.

If only networks had the foresight to run an all day marathon of "Hee-Haw" reruns on election day.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Putin may be popular at present, and that may be due to the Russians possibly feeling a bit cornered with all the hostility they've been getting lately.
This reminds me of Russian allies Iran and Syria.
US conservatives seem to get awfully upset about their autocractic oligarchies, but for some reason their global power supporter(Russia) is being unfairly treated. Perhaps Fox news doesn't point out that the Assad regime and their chemical weapons program is a client state of Putin's Russia?
Tom
 

Audie

Veteran Member
When did autocractic oligarchy become so popular with US conservatives?
Tom


Autocratic oligarchy sounds, kinda like a disease.

"Dictatorship"... Does not sound so bad.

Conservatives do not understand etymology.

"Dictatorship":

Dicta- Communist
Tatorship- Torture
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
The difference is that no one has tried to deny or downplay such incidents. Also, did the U.S. gov sanction or try to cover up such abuse? How is it relevant to this topic?

They only dope up their Olympians, kill political dissenters and nosy journalists, poison ex-spies, and assist proxy puppets in attacking civilians with chemical weapons. What's the big deal?:rolleyes:
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Martin Luther King Jr., Malcom X , Iraq/Iran, Vietnam, South America, Cuba etc. etc. The U.S. is no different and sometimes worse no matter how you want to play it.

Did the U.S. not mind when Iraq used gas against Communist Iranians?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I’m truly saddened to see anti-Russian bashing. It is far past the time when demonizing the people of another country is acceptable. Xenophobia is evil. While it is entirely understandable to decry the actions of individuals or governments it is quite something else to slander the entire population of a country. Russians are people just like anyone else.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Not mind?
Criminy, we supplied Iran.
Rumsfeld 'helped Iraq get chemical weapons' | Daily Mail Online

Chemical weapons.....they're OK when used to our benefit.
A thought bubble I saw over a Russian recently.....
"What? Now you're against chemical weapons to kill civilians & soldiers?"

It's indeed odd to criticize another country for sharing our playbook.
I reject your spin on what the U.S. did. It did not supply Iraq with chemical weapons in order for them to use them against Iran. It supplied them because Iran already had chemical weapons and the thinking was that if Iraq was given them too neither side would use them fearing the other side would reciprocate in kind. As things turned out that didn’t work as conceived. But it was worth the attempt as the alternative would have been chemical weapon used by only the Iranians.

The U.S. has never condoned the use of chemical weapons, especially on civilians.
 
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