Titanic tourist submersible: Search for missing vessel has covered over 10,000 square miles

[Stevicus]

Missing Titanic sub live updates: Family of billionaire Hamish Harding says ‘we lost him doing what he loved’

Follow the Post’s latest updates as the five passengers who were aboard the Titanic submersible “have sadly been lost” after they vanished off the coast of Canada.

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They're not sure of what the banging sounds could be. They said it could be the sound of debris floating around, but they're focusing their search on the area.

As search efforts escalate following the detection of underwater noise near where the lost Titanic-bound submersible disappeared, officals with the US Coast Guard say they still don't know the exact source of the "banging" noise.

Rear Admiral John Mauger of the US Coast Guard, who is leading the search for the missing Titan sub, said a P-3 aircraft flying with sonar buoys detected noise in the water on Tuesday.

"We don't know the source of that noise," Mauger said. "But we've shared that information with Navy experts."

In the meantime, Coast Guard officials have re-prioritized two remote-operated vehicles they have searching in the water in the area the noises were detected to see if they could locate the source, Mauger said.

While the "banging" may be a source of hope for some — and as officials focus their search on the noise's point of origin — Mauger cautioned that the clamor may be the result of metal or different objects shifting around in the water near the Titanic's wreckage.

For now, Mauger says as long as there is "an opportunity for survival," the Coast Guard will continue to "bring every resource to bear" to the search.

 

[Estro Felino]

There is something I don't understand.
If they know they were headed to the Titanic wreck site, why didn't they focus on that area? for the searching activity?

 

[Stevicus]

There is something I don't understand.
If they know there were headed to Titanic wreck site, why didn't they focus on that area? s for the searching activity?

I think they were focusing on that area, but even that covers a pretty large area. The submersible is the size of a minivan. Even the analogy of a "needle in a haystack" would be an understatement. More like trying to find a penny in a large field during a thick fog.

 

[SkepticThinker]

I'd pay money to not go down in a submarine/submersible.
(It's a claustrophobia thing.)
So cramped....so many ways to die.

I'd have a claustrophobic panic attack the second I stepped into the damn thing.

 

[Stevicus]

MSN

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[anna.]

Titanic sub search: ‘debris field’ found within search area by diving robot, says US Coast Guard​

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1671907901542211584

As of posting, they haven't identified debris source.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Highlights from Day One as the search for the missing Titanic submersible continues

Coverage on this live blog has ended. Please click here for the latest updates.

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There's five people on board with less than 40 hours of oxygen left. They lost contact with them on Sunday and can't find them.

They suggested the possibility it might have gotten tangled in the wreckage of the Titanic, in which case it would be easier to find.

Saddest thing of all is bureaucracy with essential equipment may of done them all in. The government didn't approve it and forced a critical delay in getting it there, so they told them to just wait. **** red tape.

Efforts to rescue the Titanic submersible are being delayed because US officials haven't approved paperwork, an OceanGate advisor says

An urgent rescue mission is underway for the submersible that went missing near the wreck of the Titanic. Five people are trapped inside.

www.insider.com

 

[Mock Turtle]

Saddest thing of all is bureaucracy with essential equipment may of done them all in. The government didn't approve it and forced a critical delay in getting it there, so they told them to just wait. **** red tape.

Efforts to rescue the Titanic submersible are being delayed because US officials haven't approved paperwork, an OceanGate advisor says

An urgent rescue mission is underway for the submersible that went missing near the wreck of the Titanic. Five people are trapped inside.

www.insider.com

I'm more inclined to blame the owners of this enterprise, as to not having safety as the priority, given there were and are few rescue options - as can be seen now.

 

[Revoltingest]

Saddest thing of all is bureaucracy with essential equipment may of done them all in. The government didn't approve it and forced a critical delay in getting it there, so they told them to just wait. **** red tape.

Efforts to rescue the Titanic submersible are being delayed because US officials haven't approved paperwork, an OceanGate advisor says

An urgent rescue mission is underway for the submersible that went missing near the wreck of the Titanic. Five people are trapped inside.

www.insider.com

Hey, government employees worked as fast
as they deemed necessary. Lucky they dint
read the applicants some poetry first.

 

[Nakosis]

Highlights from Day One as the search for the missing Titanic submersible continues

Coverage on this live blog has ended. Please click here for the latest updates.

www.nbcnews.com

There's five people on board with less than 40 hours of oxygen left. They lost contact with them on Sunday and can't find them.

They suggested the possibility it might have gotten tangled in the wreckage of the Titanic, in which case it would be easier to find.

OceanGate’s director of marine operations, David Lochridge, started working on a report around that time, according to court documents, ultimately producing a scathing document in which he said the craft needed more testing and stressed “the potential dangers to passengers of the Titan as the submersible reached extreme depths.”
OceanGate Was Warned of Potential for ‘Catastrophic’ Problems With Titanic Mission

They fired him.
DocumentCloud

 

[Mock Turtle]

Looks like they have found enough debris to know the vessel was lost:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464

 

[Revoltingest]

I'm more inclined to blame the owners of this enterprise, as to not having safety as the priority, given there were and are few rescue options - as can be seen now.

One can't make a single aspect of design & operation "the priority".
(Were that the case, the safest thing is to do nothing dangerous.)
Engineering design is always a balance of competing goals, commonly
called an "intelligent compromise". There's no way to make such
a vehicle & operation in a nearly 6000 psi environment totally safe.
It's always cost vs time vs performance vs safety.

The safety complaints by former workers shed some light
on some issues faced, but I've seen insufficient info to judge.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/us/titan-sub-safety-oceangate-employees/index.html

Forensic analysis could tell us if the chosen balance were reasonable or not.

 

[Estro Felino]

All Italian media are focusing on this coincidence. Wendy Rush, the CEO's wife, descends from a married couple who drowned on the Titanic.

 

[Revoltingest]

All Italian media are focusing on this coincidence. Wendy Rush, the CEO's wife, descends from a married couple who drowned on the Titanic.

The conspiracy emerges!
What's their connection to the banking elites?

As I understand its construction, the hull is a carbon
fiber composite tube with titanium spherical ends.
My concerns would be how they're joined, & how
each (with a different elastic modulus) will deflect
under the nearly 6000 psi external pressure. Sure,
it can be modeled using finite element analysis,
but it's a novel design that would concern me.
(Models are only as good as the assumptions.)

I've seen pix of the interior of the Titan. I wouldn't
ride in that thing even if it were stationary on land.
Too confined.

 

[anna.]

Looks like they have found enough debris to know the vessel was lost:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65967464

Sad news.

 

[Mock Turtle]

One can't make a single aspect of design & operation "the priority".
(Were that the case, the safest thing is to do nothing dangerous.)
Engineering design is always a balance of competing goals, commonly
called an "intelligent compromise". There's no way to make such
a vehicle & operation in a nearly 6000 psi environment totally safe.
It's always cost vs time vs performance vs safety.

The safety complaints by former workers shed some light
on some issues faced, but I've seen insufficient info to judge.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/21/us/titan-sub-safety-oceangate-employees/index.html

Forensic analysis could tell us if the chosen balance were reasonable or not.

Judging by the information coming out, safety wasn't as high as it should have been though.

 

[Estro Felino]

The conspiracy emerges!
What's their connection to the banking elites?

A pure coincidence.

Do you think they're alive?

 

[Revoltingest]

Judging by the information coming out, safety wasn't as high as it should have been though.

That is certainly clear now.
But would it have been during design & development?

 

[Revoltingest]

A pure coincidence.

Do you think they're alive?

From descriptions I've heard of the debris field,
it appears that the Titan imploded. They'd have
died in nanoseconds, never even being aware
of a problem.

 

[Mock Turtle]

That is certainly clear now.
But would it have been during design & development?

No idea. I suspect attention will be given to the carbon-fibre hull and the connections to the titanium ends, given that carbon-fibre hasn't been used in such vessels before apparently and the testing of the carbon-fibre to ensure it was safe before and after every use might raise worries. Given that listening for the sounds of separation in the carbon-fibre would be rather late.